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Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:49:00 - [61] I don't think ASCN will attack bob. And BOB seems to be on the defensive now, so I doubt they will go on any major invasions anytime soon. D2 Invading BoB space is probably the only chance we have for a clash of the titans. Shamis
Havelcek	Posted - 2006.06.05 18:32:00 - [62] Originally by: DeadDuck I think that we have 4 major powers in EVE, BOB, D2, ASCN, LV+Allies. A war will erupt sooner or later between some of this alliances. I tend to say between BOB/D2, mainly because of their nature. They both are on essence war machines with a very strong industrial side. On the other side ASCN is probably the biggest industrial alliance of the 4, but they arent as agressive as BOB or D2. Regarding LV and Allies (Coalition)I think they are a mix. I consider LV and V military alliances, dont know much about the other 2 (Knights and CIMP). To conclude I would bet on a clash between BOB and D2. Due to their nature I dont see ASCN trying to take advantage of the situation and TBH I think that the coalition will dissolve as soon as they finish the RA subject - the main reason to the coalition existence -. On a side note I dont think that would be a extermination war alsow, some big battles yes but in the end they all will continue here. I think this is the post I have to agree with the most. Everyone seems to be in a bit of detente at the moment, and I'm not sure any of the above alliances have anything to gain from attacking each other besides the actual combat. What's the point of overtaking one of your opponents' pieces of space when you are already making fine use of your own? I think the BoB model of brief forays into 3rd party areas purely for fun is going to be what we see for the next few months, maybe all the way to Kali.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.06.05 18:53:00 - [63] Speculation is great, all sorts of possibilities. What you can be sure of though is that either BoB will be the aggressors on our own or one of the others will form a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers and go for total overkill when they attack us. Neither ASCN or D2 will attack BoB on their own, I would even doubt that D2 would attack us with just their two traditional allies of the Deklein mob (NFC, KFC, KGB or whatever their current incarnation is at the time) and Razor. Either way if it kicks off the war will be huge. There are many other possibilities though, there's the CODA bunch if they ever get organised enough to have a go at BoB, there's factional warfare coming up and we've certainly had our eye on that for some time, the dynamics of regional control may change further with some of the other Kali content planned (boosters, more Cosmos stuff etc.), the use of Motherships and Titans has not been properly explored and will no doubt change the dynamics of inter-alliance warfare again and lastly the political landscape in general can change very quickly leading to all sorts of other opportunities for strife. Somewhere in that last paragraph there may or may not be at least one hint as to what our plans are Eve Blacklight Style
Josclyn Verreuil	Posted - 2006.06.05 18:59:00 - [64] Originally by: Aranin Edited by: Aranin on 05/06/2006 12:08:24 in responce to josclynn ver - the reason cap ships cant be moved form paragon directly into/out bob space is because a smugglers gate connects the two and the distance is to great. and the reason it is important that bob hold it is due to kali. gates can be locked by sov, if u lock the constellation containing the Gq2 station and smugglers gate then bob are unable to enter and attack ascn space without traveling way up and around. if they take paragon it provides an excellent point of attack for them also. also on a side note, did u ever play SB josc and were u in a guild called order of the blade? very similar name Hi Aranin :p And as to the Paragon Soul thing, I believe that with decent skills, jumps from southern Period Basis into PS are possible, but I could be entirely wrong on this as I haven't tested it personally. That said, who's to say that it would be the front lines anyway? ~Clan Verreuil
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2006.06.05 19:41:00 - [65] Originally by: Blacklight or one of the others will form a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers and go for total overkill when they attack us. /emote recalls BoBs invasion of EC-P8R. Short Term memory 4TW I suppose
Izo Azlion	Posted - 2006.06.05 19:48:00 - [66] Be it tomorrow or in a years time, I plan to be there. I'd like, for once, to be the guy on the video, on the winning side, at a important moment in EVEs political, and physical, history. ISK is temporary, history lasts forever. Izo Azlion. Sha Kharn. Ascendant Frontier ---
dimensionZ	Posted - 2006.06.05 19:51:00 - [67] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Blacklight or one of the others will form a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers and go for total overkill when they attack us. /emote recalls BoBs invasion of EC-P8R. Short Term memory 4TW I suppose We did not attack an alliance, we attacked a shipyard ----------------------------------------
killerco	Posted - 2006.06.05 19:57:00 - [68] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Blacklight or one of the others will form a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers and go for total overkill when they attack us. /emote recalls BoBs invasion of EC-P8R. Short Term memory 4TW I suppose Hey that wasn't bob invading ec-p8r!!!!!! that was ascn/[5]/ FE and yes bob Don't be a great man just be a man
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.06.05 20:28:00 - [69] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Blacklight or one of the others will form a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers and go for total overkill when they attack us. /emote recalls BoBs invasion of EC-P8R. Short Term memory 4TW I suppose Not really relevant but if you feel like you scored a point or were funny or something then all power to you. Eve Blacklight Style
Nova Strikes	Posted - 2006.06.05 20:36:00 - [70] Originally by: Blacklight Speculation is great, all sorts of possibilities. What you can be sure of though is that either BoB will be the aggressors on our own or one of the others will form a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers and go for total overkill when they attack us. Neither ASCN or D2 will attack BoB on their own, I would even doubt that D2 would attack us with just their two traditional allies of the Deklein mob (NFC, KFC, KGB or whatever their current incarnation is at the time) and Razor. Either way if it kicks off the war will be huge. There are many other possibilities though, there's the CODA bunch if they ever get organised enough to have a go at BoB, there's factional warfare coming up and we've certainly had our eye on that for some time, the dynamics of regional control may change further with some of the other Kali content planned (boosters, more Cosmos stuff etc.), the use of Motherships and Titans has not been properly explored and will no doubt change the dynamics of inter-alliance warfare again and lastly the political landscape in general can change very quickly leading to all sorts of other opportunities for strife. Somewhere in that last paragraph there may or may not be at least one hint as to what our plans are ASCN wouldnt attack BoB on their own Dont quite get this Blacklight, i thought you new ASCN is both to proud to ask for help from an ally and far to proud to start a coalition to go after BoB. hell i think we could do it on our own anyway. Then again i always was just far to*****y.
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2006.06.05 21:13:00 - [71] Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 05/06/2006 21:15:18 Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Blacklight or one of the others will form a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers and go for total overkill when they attack us. /emote recalls BoBs invasion of EC-P8R. Short Term memory 4TW I suppose Not really relevant but if you feel like you scored a point or were funny or something then all power to you. You formed a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers to attack what you claimed to be G shipyards. Seemed like overkill to me. Your post seemed to negatively reflect on what you think people are going to do to you, and I just thought it was worth pointing out that BoB wrote the book on ridiculous numbers and overkill. And yes, I scored a point. 1 point for the independent parties who enjoy laughing at all the propaganda thrown back and forth by the badass blobbers of EVE.
Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.06.05 21:13:00 - [72] Originally by: Nova Strikes ASCN wouldnt attack BoB on their own Don't quite get this Blacklight, i thought you new ASCN is both to proud to ask for help from an ally and far to proud to start a coalition to go after BoB. hell i think we could do it on our own anyway. Then again i always was just far to*****y. I wouldn't take it as an insult, it's just that most peoples image of ASCN focus on there defensive capabilities, not offensive. When ASCN comes up in these kinds of conversations, it's always the industrial infrastructure, the pos networks and the fortress that is Feyth that takes centre stage. Whether that's accurate or not, it's the image that's out there.
Nova Strikes	Posted - 2006.06.05 21:16:00 - [73] Originally by: Ab Initio Originally by: Nova Strikes ASCN wouldnt attack BoB on their own Don't quite get this Blacklight, i thought you new ASCN is both to proud to ask for help from an ally and far to proud to start a coalition to go after BoB. hell i think we could do it on our own anyway. Then again i always was just far to*****y. I wouldn't take it as an insult, it's just that most peoples image of ASCN focus on there defensive capabilities, not offensive. When ASCN comes up in these kinds of conversations, it's always the industrial infrastructure, the pos networks and the fortress that is Feyth that takes centre stage. Whether that's accurate or not, it's the image that's out there. Indeed no insult taken
Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.06.05 21:50:00 - [74] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz You formed a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers to attack what you claimed to be G shipyards. Seemed like overkill to me. Your post seemed to negatively reflect on what you think people are going to do to you, and I just thought it was worth pointing out that BoB wrote the book on ridiculous numbers and overkill. And yes, I scored a point. 1 point for the independent parties who enjoy laughing at all the propaganda thrown back and forth by the badass blobbers of EVE. The difference being that was an attack on infrastructure, this is fighting an alliance. Numbers were used in an attack on infrastructure to make it as quick and clean as possible. An attack on an alliance and its pilots is only hampered by large numbers (as could be seen in 9CG). It would benefit no one to go looking for fleet fights with 600 pilots. If they're knocking out our infrastructure, I imagine they will use large numbers. More power to them.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.06.05 22:04:00 - [75] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 05/06/2006 21:15:18 Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Blacklight or one of the others will form a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers and go for total overkill when they attack us. /emote recalls BoBs invasion of EC-P8R. Short Term memory 4TW I suppose Not really relevant but if you feel like you scored a point or were funny or something then all power to you. You formed a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers to attack what you claimed to be G shipyards. Seemed like overkill to me. Your post seemed to negatively reflect on what you think people are going to do to you, and I just thought it was worth pointing out that BoB wrote the book on ridiculous numbers and overkill. And yes, I scored a point. 1 point for the independent parties who enjoy laughing at all the propaganda thrown back and forth by the badass blobbers of EVE. Yes, you are correct we did. I'm not arguing the fact. Congratulations for noticing. You win. Eve Blacklight Style
Josclyn Verreuil	Posted - 2006.06.05 22:12:00 - [76] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 05/06/2006 21:15:18 Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Blacklight or one of the others will form a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers and go for total overkill when they attack us. /emote recalls BoBs invasion of EC-P8R. Short Term memory 4TW I suppose Not really relevant but if you feel like you scored a point or were funny or something then all power to you. You formed a huge coalition with ridiculous numbers to attack what you claimed to be G shipyards. Seemed like overkill to me. Your post seemed to negatively reflect on what you think people are going to do to you, and I just thought it was worth pointing out that BoB wrote the book on ridiculous numbers and overkill. And yes, I scored a point. 1 point for the independent parties who enjoy laughing at all the propaganda thrown back and forth by the badass blobbers of EVE. BoB is starting to steal our thunder :( Our blob is bigger, or at least was in EC :p ~Clan Verreuil
Shayleigh Snowflower	Posted - 2006.06.05 22:35:00 - [77] Edited by: Shayleigh Snowflower on 05/06/2006 22:35:59 If there is a fight between BOB and ASCN, it won't be a fight where BOB will try and take over all of ASCN space. It will be, most likely, a, whats it called?? Roadtrip? It will be a few intense weeks of immense fun, Loud screaming on TS, heated fighing, sneaky counterattacks. like, the BOB fleet will come in on Euro-time to attack VNG with a huge fleet. ASCN will blob up, and sneak 40 dreads and carriers into BOB space and start hitting theire moon-mineing POS's and reactors. That will then be fueld by bandwaggoners from all over EVE. MC will get involved in attacking one of the sides, or, maybee payed by both BOB and ASCN to hit D2 in 0.0 space so D2 don't get involved? I can see the wolfpacks of corps comeing to AZN to swear alligence to Cyvok, hopeing, that there will be a space for them once the spacedust clears.. ohh... it is gona be EPIC! but in the end.. 3-4 weeks, months, from it start.. things will settle down. Feyth will be ASCN HQ, and BOB, well, they will be in BOB space, doing BOB ****,..
Ben Derindar	Posted - 2006.06.05 23:23:00 - [78] Of the four "power blocks" described, I don't believe any one of them has the ability to both take AND HOLD the space of another right now. There's just too much space going around and not enough people populating it. /Ben
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.06.05 23:29:00 - [79] Originally by: Ben Derindar Of the four "power blocks" described, I don't believe any one of them has the ability to both take AND HOLD the space of another right now. There's just too much space going around and not enough people populating it. /Ben and he scores! ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.06.05 23:31:00 - [80] Originally by: Ben Derindar Of the four "power blocks" described, I don't believe any one of them has the ability to both take AND HOLD the space of another right now. There's just too much space going around and not enough people populating it. /Ben Indeed. Thing is all the major 'powerblocks' have space they are pretty happy with at the moment and we have no need of each other's space, so the war if it happens will be fought over other reasons than the current worth of territory. Interesting times ahead for those of us that play the alliance game. Eve Blacklight Style
Gierling	Posted - 2006.06.06 00:05:00 - [81] Originally by: Blacklight Indeed. Thing is all the major 'powerblocks' have space they are pretty happy with at the moment and we have no need of each other's space, so the war if it happens will be fought over other reasons than the current worth of territory. /me hides the ASCN Cookie Recipe, and guards it with his life. Click Me And Me
Discodude	Posted - 2006.06.06 04:43:00 - [82] What I think we'll see is each major entity (BOB, ASCN/AXE, D2/friends, and LV,V/whoever) get controll of generally all 0.0 space minus maybe the 8 new regions. This is when the real conflicts will happen :))))
Shayleigh Snowflower	Posted - 2006.06.06 05:02:00 - [83] Originally by: Discodude What I think we'll see is each major entity (BOB, ASCN/AXE, D2/friends, and LV,V/whoever) get controll of generally all 0.0 space minus maybe the 8 new regions. This is when the real conflicts will happen :)))) You do know it is a secret that we are stockpileing ships and isk and minerals to go claim that new area, right? You shouldn't tell the other alliances.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.06 06:17:00 - [84] Originally by: Blacklight Indeed. Thing is all the major 'powerblocks' have space they are pretty happy with at the moment and we have no need of each other's space, so the war if it happens will be fought over other reasons than the current worth of territory. I honestly don't see a reason for the thread to continue after this post. Pretty much says it all. - History of the MC movie!
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.06.06 07:57:00 - [85] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Blacklight Indeed. Thing is all the major 'powerblocks' have space they are pretty happy with at the moment and we have no need of each other's space, so the war if it happens will be fought over other reasons than the current worth of territory. I honestly don't see a reason for the thread to continue after this post. Pretty much says it all. Because its june, and as people finish uni/school its more likely that they will wanna form big fleets and make stuff go boom... like the easter hunt I mean, - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
Tequilapepper	Posted - 2006.06.06 08:04:00 - [86] Eh, you guys are talking about something that I can easely associate to RL 3rd World War! I hope those Military overpowered and overskilled Alliances don't start those kind of campaign... but I guess T2 ships&fitting producer would be happy of that like a coffin producer into the Old West Yay Teq _______ Fight for Love... or for the love for Fight!
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.06.06 08:41:00 - [87] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Blacklight Indeed. Thing is all the major 'powerblocks' have space they are pretty happy with at the moment and we have no need of each other's space, so the war if it happens will be fought over other reasons than the current worth of territory. I honestly don't see a reason for the thread to continue after this post. Pretty much says it all. Well, except to ask wtf CCP is thinking with the addage of 8 new regions maybe ? 0.0 looks to be getting boringly stable after this full circle movement from the 4 old powerblocks (FA, NVA/PA, CA, SA) through a year or two of fighting and moving around, to a new stability of 4 powerblocks that each will control/use/let out the areas directly around them: ASCN, D2, BoB, LV+. I mean, I honestly can't wait untill CCP add mroe space so there's even less reason to get uppity with eachother... Ah well, luckily there's always that thing called 'human nature'. Old blog
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.06.06 08:58:00 - [88] Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/06/2006 08:59:22 Maybe they wanna add more regions for like, i dunno, more people to come out to 0.0? Because unless you hadn't noticed, there is more peeps in 0.0 atm than at any time in the past. Whether they are in 4 of the biggest alliances in the game at present or not is a moot point, there is still more peeps out here. Maybe CCP isn't putting the new 0.0 space out there to cater to the massive powerblocks already in place but the new players entering the game who want to own their own little piece of 0.0 dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2006.06.06 09:01:00 - [89] Edited by: Marcus Aurelius on 06/06/2006 09:03:34 I know that there's more people in 0.0 then ever. Yet for some reason it fails to incite more big conflict then we had in the past. Hey, I know why that ain't happening, but is that a good thing ? And tbh, I don't see the good thing about more space. There's still plenty left unused. Sure, new players will amble up to there, and then some corps will split off from the big 4 or soemthing and show up with capital ships and a dose of experience to end it all again. Nice, but it doesn't add any incentive for large scale conflict, just for smaller scale conflict. It may lead to some funny changes in the current big alliances though. Maybe that'll shake things up then.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.06.06 09:21:00 - [90] Well the way I see it, CCP has stated in the past that they have a 7 year plan, so maybe the big battles are a bit more down the line yet :p Anyway, I don't think you should stress too much about it, Capital fleet battles with Carriers and Dreadnoughts are happening now. This is a MASSIVE step from last year at this point. Next step will be Titans and Motherships but we still need to settle into those before worrying about squeezing massive epic battles into the game. A bit of poking and prodding at each other for the moment but it's building up to something amazing for all. Personally, I'm looking forward to factional warfare with great interest to see what is going to happen with that. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

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