Is the Naga more superior to the Rokh despite being a grade lower?

Yet another?

I don't think I've ever seen this topic before, probably because most players are at least vaguely aware of the relative strengths and weaknesses of assault BCs and Battleships.

Oh. You're one of those. Yeah, the Naga isn't a "grade lower" than a Rokh. It's just a different class of ship. You don't "level up" from a Moa to a Naga to a Rokh. That's not how Eve works..

You don't "level up" from a Moa to a Naga to a Rokh. That's not how Eve works.

I guess my terminology was way off here.
I do not consider the Naga to be like a stepping stone within the game to get larger ships.

I meant it as the Naga is somewhat like a Pocket Battleship of WW2
Its a class lower or a whatever floats your boat -.-

I was trying to ask that the Rokh seems to be less effective than the Naga in its Offensive capabilities.
Despite the fact they should "technically" be the same.

I know the Rokh is better at "tanking" and I couldn't care less about that, I know that already.
I simply wanted to compare there Offensive capabilities against each other.

As I tried to explain in the OP I struggled to fit all 8 railguns onto the Rokh, where as the smaller Naga could easily fit all 8 without a power manager. and (all defence aside) the Naga seems to fair better than the Rokh when they should be the same in theory.

Make sense?

Also, what the hell are you doing to the poor Rokh if you can't get a full rack of 425s on it?!

As I tried to explain in the OP I struggled to fit all 8 railguns onto the Rokh, where as the smaller Naga could easily fit all 8 without a power manager. and (all defence aside) the Naga seems to fair better than the Rokh when they should be the same in theory.

Make sense?

Also, what the hell are you doing to the poor Rokh if you can't get a full rack of 425s on it?! Ugh

This topic has probably been passed around more times than the bible but here we go.

Is the Naga more superior to the Rokh despite being a grade lower?

I've flown both now and to be honest the Rokh is proving more of a burden than a successor.
Here is what I've noticed while using my loadouts.

With the Naga's 95% reduction for large hybrid weapons I can easily equip x8 425mm Compressed Coil guns and have plenty of CPU and Power for a variety of upgrades to enhance my range (both weapon and lock on), tracking speed, movement speed damage and damage control.

Along with this the Naga Locks onto small targets in roughly 5 seconds allowing me to blast away while range is still my ally.

A perfect ship in my eyes is played correctly in any scenario. the lack of a drone bay is perhaps its ONLY let down.

While Playing with the Rokh I had trouble equipping all x8 425mm Compressed Coil guns along with the satisfactory add-ons to match the Naga and include the famous tanking abilities. (I ended up with x6 or x7 coil guns)

Along to its Negative points it takes a whooping 20-25 seconds to lock onto smaller ships and proves to slow for my conventional Naga tactics for staying at range effectively.

I'm often finding myself sitting there tanking while my drones pick off the smaller ships because the Rokh is to slow to lock and move.

I have tried the blaster variant which has proved better than compressed coil guns, but still struggles against the faster ships. and I do fear will struggle with its slow speed at perusing larger vessels.

I feel like i'm flying an obese punching bag rather than a ship

Does anyone have any tips on how to bring out better use in my Rokh or does anyone agree with my facts?
It could be that i'm a crap player or I could be right, let us know =)

P.s, Rant Over, Thanks for reading

Edit: Unlike all the other threads I don't want to see "It can tank, take more damage etc etc etc" I want to know what way is the battleship more offensive than the battlecruiser, because at the moment it seems inferior.

Again, I already know it can take more hits, I said that when I called the rokh a punching bag.

Also, what the hell are you doing to the poor Rokh if you can't get a full rack of 425s on it?!

This topic has probably been passed around more times than the bible but here we go.

Is the Naga more superior to the Rokh despite being a grade lower?

I've flown both now and to be honest the Rokh is proving more of a burden than a successor.
Here is what I've noticed while using my loadouts.

With the Naga's 95% reduction for large hybrid weapons I can easily equip x8 425mm Compressed Coil guns and have plenty of CPU and Power for a variety of upgrades to enhance my range (both weapon and lock on), tracking speed, movement speed damage and damage control.

Along with this the Naga Locks onto small targets in roughly 5 seconds allowing me to blast away while range is still my ally.

A perfect ship in my eyes is played correctly in any scenario. the lack of a drone bay is perhaps its ONLY let down.

While Playing with the Rokh I had trouble equipping all x8 425mm Compressed Coil guns along with the satisfactory add-ons to match the Naga and include the famous tanking abilities. (I ended up with x6 or x7 coil guns)

Along to its Negative points it takes a whooping 20-25 seconds to lock onto smaller ships and proves to slow for my conventional Naga tactics for staying at range effectively.

I'm often finding myself sitting there tanking while my drones pick off the smaller ships because the Rokh is to slow to lock and move.

I have tried the blaster variant which has proved better than compressed coil guns, but still struggles against the faster ships. and I do fear will struggle with its slow speed at perusing larger vessels.

I feel like i'm flying an obese punching bag rather than a ship

Does anyone have any tips on how to bring out better use in my Rokh or does anyone agree with my facts?
It could be that i'm a crap player or I could be right, let us know =)

P.s, Rant Over, Thanks for reading

Edit: Unlike all the other threads I don't want to see "It can tank, take more damage etc etc etc" I want to know what way is the battleship more offensive than the battlecruiser, because at the moment it seems inferior.

Again, I already know it can take more hits, I said that when I called the rokh a punching bag.

I favor the Rokh because.

/thread.

I dunno, i even placed them on first and it only allowed x7 to be online.
I've had to use a power manager, something the naga didnt need o.O

Thats whats confusing me.

While Playing with the Rokh I had trouble equipping all x8 425mm Compressed Coil guns along with the satisfactory add-ons to match the Naga and include the famous tanking abilities. (I ended up with x6 or x7 coil guns)

Let's not forget ROKH MAN!.

I dunno, i even placed them on first and it only allowed x7 to be online.
I've had to use a power manager, something the naga didnt need o.O

Thats whats confusing me.

Along to its Negative points it takes a whooping 20-25 seconds to lock onto smaller ships and proves to slow for my conventional Naga tactics for staying at range effectively.

I recommend that you train the Advanced Weapon Upgrades skill as soon as possible. It reduces the power grid requirements of all weapons by 2% per level. That doesn't sound like much but it will open a world of fitting options to you.

Isn't it sort of ridiculous that a battleship suffers a penalty to locking smaller ships even though it is a bigger more advanced class of ship? I agree that large guns should suffer tracking penalties to smaller signatures, but increasing lock time as well is absurd intentional gimping just to allow for David vs. Goliath scenarios where David has the advantage.

Where the hell did you get "more advanced"? There's nothing that makes a battleship inherently more advanced than any other T1 hull class. Hell my Astero can warp cloaked, can your battleship do that? Who's more advanced now?

More advanced in that it takes more skill points to pilot one and the pilot must first learn how to pilot frigates/destroyers/cruisers/battle-cruisers.. It makes no sense that a Frigate can have a built in ability to target anything extremely quick, but something that has "battle" in its ship class name can't lock onto a frigate quickly without making sacrifices... The tiny godmode tracking computer built into a frigate can't be put somewhere in a battleship? It makes no sense IRL, but of course there's the catch, there's more of an emphasis on perceived balance than making things vaguely realistic.

Battleships produce and emit much more power. This, on the one hand, causes them to be easily locked, as there are a lot of strong emissions for a targeting computer to lock to.
On the other hand, their own power signature makes it harder to lock onto weaker signatures, as the relevant emissions need to be filtered from the "noise" the battleship itself produces.

Smaller ship classes have a lower power-output which means both of these effects have less impact on them.

I dunno, i even placed them on first and it only allowed x7 to be online.
I've had to use a power manager, something the naga didnt need o.O

Thats whats confusing me.

Take a naga fleet into incursions and tell me how it goes. Hint. The rokh is actually good there.