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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1942
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Posted - 2014.05.28 09:35:00 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:
Interstellar Communication - in EVE,instant communication between star-systems is done via the so called fluid-router which is nothing more than a collection of quantum entangled particles. Einstein called this "spooky action at a distance" - basically a pair of particles that are quantum entangled will retain their entanglement even after separation (i.e. they will move as if they were one even if separated by vast distances). Simply put, bump upwards particle A in solar system X and the particle B in solar system Y will suffer the effect "in mirror". Simple communication can be achieved via this.
ATM this is also theoretically possible - the only thing we have to figure out is a) how to brake the entanglement b) how to efficiently send the signal (as we are talking quantum here, even the action of viewing the particle may register as a motion on the other particle as viewing simply means spraying it with photons, thus already applying a stimulus to it)
Cloning - achieved.
The only thing which is dodgy in EVE about cloning is the act of conscience transfer - this is something for the more philosophical minds to debate - are you really you or are you just an evolving copy of something that was once you?
IC:
The interstellar communication uses the gates as relays. This is also how your pod information is sent to the medical facilities when you die. Though the rest about quantum entanglement seems about right.
Cloning:
Theoretically it isn't very far fetched, since everything that makes you, you, is just electrons in your brain. Being able to decode it and transfer it could be possible. Like you said with current lack of knowledge in regards to consciousness and the brain is up for more so philosophical debate. However with current science trends I see humanity getting to that stage before FTL travel.
CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it.
Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
402
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Posted - 2014.05.28 09:41:00 -
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I personally enjoy the warp tunnel effect but think it is too 'light' and am also bothered by the fact that warp speed does not seem to affect the effect. I wouldn't mind if for instance, capitals and battleships were to warp with the current animation, but interceptors and especially leopards would look closer to the image linked in first. Basically, the faster you warp, the more blurred and distorted your tunnel should be. |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2257
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Posted - 2014.05.28 09:53:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:If were gonna get all technical about this isn't the hud supposed to be like the capsuleer looking at a screen?
So the ship computer could just be building that visual based on where you are in system and what the computer knows about the system.
sort of, but you're not actually looking at the screen, but rather it's being built in the visual centers of your brain, completely bypassing your eyes.
The trailers have the character looking at a screen, because non-eve players (or people who haven't become familiar with the lore) still need to be able to grasp the concept of piloting the ship.
You, in a pod ... except without the "computer using you as a battery" part.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
156
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Posted - 2014.05.28 10:30:00 -
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I think we're missing the most important aspect of this whole thing... just look around and make sure that no sunlight is touching your skin.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Jamwara+DelCalicoe+Ashley |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
1337
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Posted - 2014.05.28 12:35:00 -
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I was under the impression that it would look more like this
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Riyria Twinpeaks
Reasonable People
Of Sound Mind
1969
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Posted - 2014.05.28 12:48:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:I was under the impression that it would look more like this
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And interestingly, the students also realized that, when traveling at such an intense speed, a ship would be subject to incredible pressure exerted by X-rays GÇö an effect that would push back against the ship, causing it to slow down. The researchers likened the effect to the high pressure exerted against deep-ocean submersibles exploring extreme depths.
:o Submarines in space after all! |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2260
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:01:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Karen Avioras wrote:Just shut off your screen while you're in warp and imagine something else. I quite enjoy looking around. You're actually far more correct than you might think. Technically, the only thing capsuleers actually see is a computer generated representation of the environment around the ship displayed by a screen a mere several inches from their faces. We (as in capsuleers) aren't looking out a window at real light anyways.
no, there is no screen. the "visuals" are pumped right into our heads.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Victor Dathar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
351
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:43:00 -
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We are all brains in jars and this thing you call eve is just a program to have us control real spaceships under the pretense that we are playing a game but we are shooting real other ships. Everything you see and feel has been preprogrammed by the invisible masters. When one of your corp mates quits and never comes back? They were defective and thus replaced with a new brain in a jar.
^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7
@grr_goons : Wisdom, Insight, GBS Posts |
MrFahrenheit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:15:00 -
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Actually this http://io9.com/5976041/this-is-what-it-would-really-look-like-to-travel-at-near-lightspeed is what lightspeed travel would look like.
I prefer EvE's version of "warp travel" thx. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
1836
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:19:00 -
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Female.
Mr. Fahrenheit.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
White light, shining bright! |
Naomi Hale
Children of New Eden
262
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:22:00 -
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Didn't it used to say "Warp bubble collapse in" followed by the distance during warp?
Doesn't that imply it's more of you altering the space around your ship rather than exceeding the speed of light.
I'm Naomi Hale and this is my favourite thread on the forums. |
Kiandoshia
Tetragorn
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1741
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:23:00 -
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Lothrus Andastar wrote:Pod computer is simulating it because otherwise our brains explode from madness.
READ THE LORE!
How does the camera drone keep up with the ship in warp? Why doesn't it get left behind? Does it have a warp drive of its own? Is it being towed on a cable? Why can you move it? If you can put a warp drive on an invisibly tiny camera drone, why don't my Warrior 2s have warp drives? |
MrFahrenheit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:26:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Female. Mr. Fahrenheit.
So what? I fell for a cheap cloning scam in '06 and now I'm stuck with this.
Still at least it doesn't look like I have an incurable condition.
Because lets face it there is no cure for being a c*nt.
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Naomi Hale
Children of New Eden
262
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:44:00 -
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This Image answers all your questions.
I'm Naomi Hale and this is my favourite thread on the forums. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
611
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:51:00 -
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Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:If you are travelling at dozens/hundreds of times the speed of light, you should not be able to see the light from the stars and planets so clearly. As you approach the speed of light things start looking like this http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/faster-speed-of-light-1.jpgAs you pass the speed of light things get very weird. Some theorize you'd see the past unraveling before your eyes. Others claim it's impossible and therefore futile to determine what may happen. What we can be quite sure of is it certainly wouldn't look the way it does in game. At the very least please adjust the world of New Eden to look like the linked picture when in warp. of all the things to complain about... this is not really that big an issue. First of all, your example of the FLT is ugly. no one wants that. it's a nit that doesn't get picked because we all know it's just for gaming fun. If we changed everything to fit our narrowly calculated vision of the hypothetical universe the game would become pretty boring.
-á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2263
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Posted - 2014.05.28 15:06:00 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:Lothrus Andastar wrote:Pod computer is simulating it because otherwise our brains explode from madness.
READ THE LORE! How does the camera drone keep up with the ship in warp? Why doesn't it get left behind? Does it have a warp drive of its own? Is it being towed on a cable? Why can you move it? If you can put a warp drive on an invisibly tiny camera drone, why don't my Warrior 2s have warp drives?
The lore states that the camera drone has a special dock port on the ship (i.e. you pull it in before you warp).
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1284
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Posted - 2014.05.28 15:53:00 -
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Just stepping in to say whast likely already been said.
You dont go lightspeed in EVE because that would be impossible with ay kind of solid mass.
You can be perceived as going FTL though, kind of like the distance between galaxies expands at a faster rate than lightspeed for some galaxies. But neither is actually going faster.
In EVE you move space around you to get from A to B, thats why its a "Warp Bubble" and why it can be disrupted. It is also the justification for the submarine physics in space. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13803
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Posted - 2014.05.28 19:51:00 -
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Do not try to warp the ship, that's impossible.
Instead, try to realize the truth.. there is no ship.
Then you will see that it is not he ship that is warped, but only yourself.
Plus, warping looks different in a fluid universe... so... yeah.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Miles Winter
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:46:00 -
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While that image is close, it does leave a few things out. From what I can tell, they're just looking at the visual spectrum.
First of all, there is redshifting and blueshifting - Light in front of you becomes a higher frequency, it blueshifts. Light behind you becomes lower frequency, it redshifts. This effect is visible in Eve already when you warp, although only minimally. We mostly wouldn't see this with our eyes - we can't see infrared or ultraviolet or further.
Second, whatever you are approaching appears to move away from you. This is an optical illusion caused by an increase in your field of view - and your field of view increases because you are now moving so fast you are seeing light from behind yourself. The faster you travel, the larger your field of view becomes.
Third, the photons directly in front of you begin to pile up, creating something like a light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel effect.
Were you to go at exactly lightspeed, you would see the entire universe compressed into a dot of light directly in front of you. At lower speeds, you see something that looks kind of tunnel-ish.
For your viewing pleasure, here is an animated view of near-lightspeed travel:
http://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/photonsphereplain_640x480.gif
The observer is orbiting near lightspeed around a black hole. You can see the black hole along the bottom half of the .gif, and the universe at large along the top half. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
10134
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:52:00 -
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LOL no they don't. There are no relativistic effects in that picture.
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
10134
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:57:00 -
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There we go, I was looking for that. Thank you.
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Michael Ruckert
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2014.05.29 02:43:00 -
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And now a few words from William Shatner:
http://youtu.be/wyk7rR-VcGQ
"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4613
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Posted - 2014.05.29 08:40:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Female. Mr. Fahrenheit.
Lol you really want to go there?
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares
"As Ramona previously mentioned, that is correct." --áISD Supogo |
Lila Merle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.05.29 09:18:00 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:Lothrus Andastar wrote:Pod computer is simulating it because otherwise our brains explode from madness.
READ THE LORE! How does the camera drone keep up with the ship in warp? Why doesn't it get left behind? Does it have a warp drive of its own? Is it being towed on a cable? Why can you move it? If you can put a warp drive on an invisibly tiny camera drone, why don't my Warrior 2s have warp drives?
Camera Drones
Combat drones and probes also have small warp drives
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Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
207
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Posted - 2014.05.29 12:14:00 -
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its the fluid that fills the void that is refered to as "space" in eve, it transmits light at superluminal speeds. It is this amazing feature that unfortunately causes a spaceship to slow down when the engines throttle back too. We cant have everything our way! |
Mass Doe
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.05.29 12:20:00 -
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When you warp you are not moving at all. Let alone FTL. It is the space around you that moves. But not directionally as on would think.
If you want realism go play Orbiter. Eve dynamics is much more like being underwater than in space. |
CaliCartel
The One Corp
Brothers of Tangra
3
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Posted - 2014.05.29 13:06:00 -
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ITS A GAME HAVE FUN or GTFO |
XxRTEKxX
That Escalated Quickly
Nerfed Alliance Go Away
121
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Posted - 2014.05.29 14:44:00 -
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Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:If you are travelling at dozens/hundreds of times the speed of light, you should not be able to see the light from the stars and planets so clearly. As you approach the speed of light things start looking like this http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/faster-speed-of-light-1.jpgAs you pass the speed of light things get very weird. Some theorize you'd see the past unraveling before your eyes. Others claim it's impossible and therefore futile to determine what may happen. What we can be quite sure of is it certainly wouldn't look the way it does in game. At the very least please adjust the world of New Eden to look like the linked picture when in warp.
Unless you've ever, or anyone has traveled faster than light, then it's all just theory.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4629
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Posted - 2014.05.29 14:45:00 -
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Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:
At the very least please adjust the world
If anyone needs a quote to cover entitlement, there you go
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares
"As Ramona previously mentioned, that is correct." --áISD Supogo |
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