Get rid of mineral drops from drones!!!!

Yea... mineral faucet from drones must be removed...

Get rid of mineral drops from drones!!!!

Not that I mind, but what other faucet would you replace it with?

edit: misunderstood. Well i guess it will be good old bounties .

That would be the most obvious one, sure. Though looking at the big picture the last thing that EVE needs is another giant ISK faucet. And, off course, the drone regions would lose their uniqueness.

Somehow I don't think one more region of the same bounties all the other regions have is gonna destabilize things.

At least not near as much as Drone Poop has destabilized Mining.

As for Unique...

Nothing wrong with a simplistic opinion. Adds variety.

Better a simple solution that gets things done then a unique one that has negative effects.

There is a reason were flying around in 747's instead of really cool Zeppelins. There is no Reason a Raven should be able to out mine a Hulk.

Not that I mind, but what other faucet would you replace it with?

That would be the most obvious one, sure. Though looking at the big picture the last thing that EVE needs is another giant ISK faucet. And, off course, the drone regions would lose their uniqueness.

about "Unique"...
You can have unique things in your house when you have all the rest what you need and dont need for living...
and eve only what have in infinite amounts are problems... so solve them and then add unique things (and don't beak it all again).

You can eliminate uniqueness in the name of progress, but in the end you risk being left with a generic landscape without any character, unable to foster attachment or any sense of scale and wonder required for immersion.

CCP can be lazy and replace it with ISK...
one more region with same ISK faucet as all others would not make ISK value less at all...
and when we have incursions on incursions on incursions... that change will have infuence of 0%...
and it would SAVE minerals market...

Or CCP can be smart and make some other value thing in EVE that can be exchanged (like LP or LP or tags) or sold on market (like parts or blueprints for production)...
But no point to do second thing and waste DEV time when other things make 99,9% of the problem...

This way you solve at least one problem, devaluation of minerals and goods...

And for all that ppl that will call me "carebear" for this said... (i dont know why some ppl are calling others like that when they rase this subject... but...)
Who is biggest carebear?
I can not think of bigger carebear that that one that mine in BS...

I have read somewhere DEVs reply about removing mineral drops from drones and putting something else on its place
CCP, can you please give us update on this, please? Is this coming?

That's very nice change and players would be thankful.
Please remove minerals from drones.


*Edit:
@ CCP
In this thread are some nice suggestion how to revive industry... please... give us response...
Are you going to do anything on subject of rebalancing mineral faucets/drains ratio???


In state in what EVE is now there are huge problems on this subject.
The most of all minerals in EVE are coming from drones. And when you add up on that loot drops you are at the point where mining dont play significant role at all.
That is WRONG.
Mining needs to be THE largest SOURCE (If not only) source of minerals in EVE.

Think a little about it...
- Is it normal to go to mine with shotgun to mine???
- Is it normal that shooting down planes give you more materials for making new planes then mining? (WOW we have here Perpetual motion here)
- Is it normal that profession for which you must have PhD is giving you revenue of burger flipper proffesion?
- Is it normal that profession for which you must have PhD give you place in society for whitch ppl are saying "they need to learn their place, its at the bottom.... where they belong."

Well... all that "normal stuff" we have in EVE.

Lets translate that on EVE:

- You load your weapons on your combat ship and kill drones and rats to aquire minerals.
- You aquire more minerals (much more) with shooting drones and rats then with mining.
- Mining skill tree is larger then for some other, much more lucrative professions (now), and you the least revenue.
- Mining skill tree is larger then for some other, much more lucrative professions (now), and ppl are saying to your face "miners need to learn their place, its at the bottom.... where they belong."

You see something wrong here???
Ppl in this thread have solutions for this problem!!!




And about Manufacturing...

Manufacturing of basic T1 items is... well... dead...
And that is the first step for young players that decide to go indy way in EVE, and it is dead.
I think thats just wrong.

I will not here be writing real world comparisons (but I could do it) about it but i'll say it directly.
That industry is based on T1 meta 0 items... isn't it easy ko just remove that items from loot drops???
Easy and efficiently problem solved.


Revive industry in EVE, please.

Thnx you in advance.


*used intelectual property of many ppl in this thread.

BTW is they took out alloys the mineral vacuum that would create would be rediculous...

"get rid of mineral drops from drones" say the hardcore pvpers...

I wanna see the hardcore pvpers paying +50% on each single ship they buy because A - miners are ganked B - no drone minerals C - mining is boring (what most people think any way).

It's all working fine. The drone regions are still the worst place to pve in eve, don't make it a desert where even russian bots won't want to live...

I've pointed this out elsewhere and am half sure that this will be ignored but here goes: The value of isk is not entirely determined by the supply of isk. It is the ratio between isk and capital goods. Minerals are one of the biggest capital goods. Therefore if you reduce the influx of minerals and change nothing else (or through bounties actually increase the influx of isk) you have the same (or greater) volumes of isk competing for less minerals and prices will rise. Manufacturing chains and trading are just mediums to facilitate the isk/ goods ratio.

becuase more ISK is 'printed' PI, Ratting, Mining, PLEX, than the ships and modules and structures are destroyed in game resulting directly in inflation.

I do as much ratting up there as I did in providence and wicked creek and make about the same sort of money doing it. I'd prefer bounties as then I wouldn't have to ship all the crap out......