As I said, Chinese environmental issues are massive, and it's a densely populated country. Losing 40% of their farmlands is no joke, and then mind this: some of those lands had been exploited continuosly for 7,000 years and now are literally gone forever.

Floods, sandstorms, salinization, desertification, pollution of every sort (air/water/land), China's disasters are as massive as the population. They can't bury their heads in the sand the American way nor pretend it's a PR issue.

Just ask yourself, "What would a dinosaur do?"

just had a eureka moment ! if the global temeperatures rise off the scale then just think how much cheaper it would to **** the polar caps for resources its a win win ... we can shoot penguins and polar bears whilst getting cheap oil !!!


whats not to like

ahhh but conspiracy theorists reckon theres a top secret alien base there ...plus apparently the nzisa have a bolt hole there from WW2

didn't an American fleet pop down there in the 50`s to have a butchers to see ?..... and got there butts kicked !


I seen it on youtube ! IT MUST BE TRUE !!!!!!!!!

The rainforests are where it's really crucial. And there is very little in the way of replanting concern as far as I know

Very true, but the ability to grow trees at an accelerated rate is completely possible. So much of Great Britian's deforested land is still sitting treeless and unused. Forests have for eons been destoryed by nature and rebuilt by nature. Why can we not do the same thing? I am not implying that this is an easy or a quick fix, but it is the easiest thing we can do to target the biggest problem. We are not going to deccelerate our fossile fuel use, even though I believe conservation is a smart tactic to utilize.

UK is built on coal ....supposed to be enough to last over 500 years ..... my old town had one of the biggest coal mines in the world ....but it just wasn't viable ..as we could buy it cheaper from south America than dig it out of the ground ... miners got too powerful and tried to hold the country to ransom ...so aunt Maggie shut them down ... lol ..must confess id rather do what im doing now ...than work in a fkn coal mine


but now ...we can frack frack frack to our hearts delight ...job done imo

We can do that. While there is space arable space I suppose. But one of the reasons the rainforest is disappearing is to make room for more people. More business. More industry. More concrete. More blacktop.

Which are two non-helpful things when considering the ecosystem themselves. Taking away the green and replacing it with concrete and blacktop causes even more heat to be absorbed and held onto. The albedo effect I think its called...or maybe that was energy reflected back into space. Whichever lol. Neither are good things in excess.

We can do that. While there is space arable space I suppose. But one of the reasons the rainforest is disappearing is to make room for more people. More business. More industry. More concrete. More blacktop.

Which are two non-helpful things when considering the ecosystem themselves. Taking away the green and replacing it with concrete and blacktop causes even more heat to be absorbed and held onto. The albedo effect I think its called...or maybe that was energy reflected back into space. Whichever lol. Neither are good things in excess.

Thank you for the modern world that we live in dinos. Could not have done it without you.

Worst thing about the latter is that it uses a lot of fresh water, which only makes up 3% of the worlds water supply, unless you want to setup facilities to clean up sea water to drink it, which in turn needs power to operate them, and they are expensive.


In short, anyway you look at it, we're screwed because no matter what option is chosen, it steps on some ones interests and how they can make money, hence the real solution get rid of money altogether.


It's radical I know....

Kind of ironic, isn't it? Dinosaurs become extinct and give up their place as the dominant species. But-- they yield petroleum, which humans in turn use to make themselves extinct. Revenge of the dinos!

P.S. How's that for logic and critical thinking?

Very true, but the ability to grow trees at an accelerated rate is completely possible. So much of Great Britian's deforested land is still sitting treeless and unused. Forests have for eons been destoryed by nature and rebuilt by nature. Why can we not do the same thing? I am not implying that this is an easy or a quick fix, but it is the easiest thing we can do to target the biggest problem. We are not going to deccelerate our fossile fuel use, even though I believe conservation is a smart tactic to utilize.

does it have to use freshwater ... we have enough water in the sea ?

Salt water corrodes the piping used to generate the pressure needed( something crazy like 10 000 + PSI), to crack the rock and reach the deposits.

CO2 concentrarion increases as the temperature of the planet increases, not the inverse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

Education, I was aiming to get into Geology.

There are a large number of BBC science programmes from Professor Iain Stewart that go into detail on the subject. There are also some Horizon documentaries that get into some good detail and there might be a Royal Institute Christmas Lecture on the subject but I'm not sure on that one.

The biggest problem with Climate change is that the general public has very little easy to digest info on the subject and the news sites from both sides of the camp are terrible at reporting the subject. I'm one of those rare people that enjoy reading scientific papers

Here's a good one to watch, The Climate Wars. Its a history of the climate change debate.

Episode 1

Episode 2

Episode 3

This always baffles me how people are in such denial. We are a species about 7 billion strong who all breathe and exhale carbon dioxide just as a baseline. Then a large portion of that population has their own car to drive around in and the overwhelming majority of that population gets their power from coal power plants and most of us by products made in factories that also release various chemicals into the atmosphere and we all get our food and other necessities by vast networks of various freight methods land air or sea. Of course we have an impact on our environment.

Thank you Baltec , I'll be watching those later o7