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xplosiv	Posted - 2006.06.08 11:59:00 - [1] I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs?
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:01:00 - [2] I doubt VOIP is active in local... ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Verone	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:07:00 - [3] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I doubt VOIP is active in local... Imagine Jita and Oursualert on voice comms WTS DARK BLOOD MED ARMOR REP PLS CONVO ME THX!111 OMFG I LOST MY NAVY MEGA TO ANGEL EXTRAVAGANZA BHUHHHOOO I QUIT GUNSHOT WTB VINDICATOR 900M PLS CONVO ME. ICH MOCHTE PIE!11 DUAL LIGHT PULSE LASER II'S ON ESCROW 500MILLION ISK EACH HHAHAHA I HAVE TEH BPO I OWN U WITH HI PRICES. PARLES VOUS FRANICAS? OMFG WHY DID U SHOOT ME?. WAR TARGETS AT THE GATE, DO NOT WARP IN!11 WTT NAVY RAVEN 4 FLEET TEMPEST PLS CONVOME!11 LOLLOLOL U NUB U GOT OWNED!11 WTS VELDSPAR!11 90 MILLION ISK P/U. OMG IRLEET01 IS AN ORETHIEF!11 SOMEONE GANG ME AND KILL HIM!11 BBQ11!11 WTS MY GRANDMOTHER, NEED FACTION REPPER FOR MY MEGA, WILL TRADE FOR ISK. WTB ASHIMUU 100M PLS CONVO MEH. head explodes ...yeah... i'd LOVE that.... VETO RECRUITMENT
Jongo Fett	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:08:00 - [4] you got it perfectly there. Dont forget there will be some random kid just screaming down the mic cos its Jita to annoy every1
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:10:00 - [5] Originally by: Verone ... Or when you go "Yaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Ransom!" in local. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!

Oveur	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:12:00 - [6] Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. Senior Producer EVE Online

Swethren	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:14:00 - [7] Edited by: Swethren on 08/06/2006 12:15:09 Edited by: Swethren on 08/06/2006 12:14:44 Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. Oooohhh, been paying attention to the "nerf local" threads have we... interesting... Swethren
Electric Six	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:14:00 - [8] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I doubt VOIP is active in local... Imagine Jita and Oursualert on voice comms RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE head explodes ...yeah... i'd LOVE that.... fIXED IT FOR YA
Plutoinum	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Oveur It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. Interesting, sounds like you are at least thinking about changing local some day. P.S.: Guess they record all audio and if evil people like omber zombie or Jenny Spitfire speak, they play it backward to check for hidden satanic messages.

Oveur	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Swethren Edited by: Swethren on 08/06/2006 12:15:09 Edited by: Swethren on 08/06/2006 12:14:44 Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. Oooohhh, been paying attention to the "nerf local" threads have we... interesting... Swethren You lag. Senior Producer EVE Online


Sensor Error	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:50:00 - [11] Local nerfage FTW! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!! ------------------------------------------ Dev Responses to common questions
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:54:00 - [12] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Swethren Edited by: Swethren on 08/06/2006 12:15:09 Edited by: Swethren on 08/06/2006 12:14:44 Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. Oooohhh, been paying attention to the "nerf local" threads have we... interesting... Swethren You lag. 2004 called, it wants its link back
xplosiv	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. unfortunatly local is not the only way place this will occur. not every 1 in their corp and even alliance like eachother. people forming a gang to abuse you (granted you could leave but still this does not stop it being done).

Oveur	Posted - 2006.06.08 13:18:00 - [14] Originally by: xplosiv Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. unfortunatly local is not the only way place this will occur. not every 1 in their corp and even alliance like eachother. people forming a gang to abuse you (granted you could leave but still this does not stop it being done). By that logic, we should remove evemail and chat channels as well. Senior Producer EVE Online

fuze	Posted - 2006.06.08 13:28:00 - [15] How about some democracy and let users vote on VOIP or not? Are you really interested in what your customers think about paying for optional VOIP ingame? And not only the occasional forum *****? (ermm....)
Kasak Black	Posted - 2006.06.08 13:28:00 - [16] Prehaps we should...
xplosiv	Posted - 2006.06.08 13:36:00 - [17] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. unfortunatly local is not the only way place this will occur. not every 1 in their corp and even alliance like eachother. people forming a gang to abuse you (granted you could leave but still this does not stop it being done). By that logic, we should remove evemail and chat channels as well. ERRR wtf? how has asking if there is going to be means and ways of petitoning something on voip got anything to do with not putting it in. tbh i could't careless about you putting it ingame cus as long as ts is free i will use that. i just don't want some 14 year on a sugar rush being able to freely abuse me if i get draged into some 1 elses conversation on it. maybe you should post some details about who will be able to talk to who (will people paying for it be able to use it to talk to people not) and such. i do not want to turn in this into a debait about the logic of having such a system in eve unless you do i just want to know what abuse and harrasment protection it's going to have as a ccp provided service.
Khajit Smitty	Posted - 2006.06.08 13:37:00 - [18] Oveur can i ask has more thought/plans been put into changing local since 2004 ?? Claw of the Ancients is Recruiting Our home page
Dak Hakin	Posted - 2006.06.08 13:39:00 - [19] When is the iwin button coming in? _______________________________________________ I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.06.08 13:56:00 - [20] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. unfortunatly local is not the only way place this will occur. not every 1 in their corp and even alliance like eachother. people forming a gang to abuse you (granted you could leave but still this does not stop it being done). By that logic, we should remove evemail and chat channels as well. no, by that logic you should keep a record of what was said in them. Imagine doing that


Oveur	Posted - 2006.06.08 14:18:00 - [21] Originally by: xplosiv Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. unfortunatly local is not the only way place this will occur. not every 1 in their corp and even alliance like eachother. people forming a gang to abuse you (granted you could leave but still this does not stop it being done). By that logic, we should remove evemail and chat channels as well. ERRR wtf? how has asking if there is going to be means and ways of petitoning something on voip got anything to do with not putting it in. tbh i could't careless about you putting it ingame cus as long as ts is free i will use that. i just don't want some 14 year on a sugar rush being able to freely abuse me if i get draged into some 1 elses conversation on it. maybe you should post some details about who will be able to talk to who (will people paying for it be able to use it to talk to people not) and such. i do not want to turn in this into a debait about the logic of having such a system in eve unless you do i just want to know what abuse and harrasment protection it's going to have as a ccp provided service. You have to accept to join on a voice channel (opt-in) and likewise can easily leave it. You can also put people on ignore to prevent them from ever talking to you again. The harassment petition category won't go away either. Senior Producer EVE Online


Oveur	Posted - 2006.06.08 14:20:00 - [22] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv Originally by: Oveur Originally by: xplosiv I was recently browsing the forums as i do and it ocured to me. Current ingame com's like local are subject to harrasment policing. for example if some 1 starts swearing at me and making threats i can petition them. however in current out of game voice com's there is no such policings. now if EVE is going to have a built in client will this be subject to the same harrasment system as current coms. will you be recording all voice coms in logs? It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. unfortunatly local is not the only way place this will occur. not every 1 in their corp and even alliance like eachother. people forming a gang to abuse you (granted you could leave but still this does not stop it being done). By that logic, we should remove evemail and chat channels as well. no, by that logic you should keep a record of what was said in them. Imagine doing that No, you are on the other end of the problem. Here we are talking about the ability to initiate the harassment. If the drawback of opt-in voice chat opens up the ability to initiate harassment and thus shouldn't be done, then likewise, chat and evemail shouldn't be done since that has even easier ways to initiate harassment. But in all cases can you choose to ignore it, and report it. Senior Producer EVE Online

ZzeusS	Posted - 2006.06.08 14:21:00 - [23] Hmm. Voice chat in Caldari Provisions /shudders in horror
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.06.08 14:23:00 - [24] Edited by: HippoKing on 08/06/2006 14:24:28 Originally by: Oveur No, you are on the other end of the problem. Here we are talking about the ability to initiate the harassment. If the drawback of opt-in voice chat opens up the ability to initiate harassment and thus shouldn't be done, then likewise, chat and evemail shouldn't be done since that has even easier ways to initiate harassment. But in all cases can you choose to ignore it, and report it. We are coming at this from different directions by the look of it Originally by: Oveur You have to accept to join on a voice channel (opt-in) and likewise can easily leave it. You can also put people on ignore to prevent them from ever talking to you again. The harassment petition category won't go away either. My question is about proof. I could accuse someone of trying to sell me ISK or using racial slurs or any of the other things that are against the conduct rules in Eve on a VOIP server. Would you have any kind of proof of this as you currently do over chat? Not whether harassment can occur, we know it can in so many ways already. The question is if CCP can monitor it.
Khajit Smitty	Posted - 2006.06.08 14:42:00 - [25] Well it is digital voice - its pretty easy to store and it can be compressed to a smaller size, im sure the providers who are providing the server backbone have something in place to to cater for this sort of problem.... The logistics around storing all the voice comms would be the hardest part with space etc, still records wouldnt really need to be kept for more than 7 days, as if you are harrased generally you petition it straight away - doing so 2 weeks later means the incident wasn't significant enough to warrent the petition in the first place... Just my views. Claw of the Ancients is Recruiting Our home page
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2006.06.08 15:04:00 - [26] Originally by: Oveur It won't be enabled on local, if local will even exist in the same form as it does today. please remove the local and put a new "Emergesing channel" that will broadcast in all the system only if you want to... like help i am dieing here.... :PPP ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Callisto Augustus	Posted - 2006.06.08 15:13:00 - [27] Originally by: CT BadIronTree "Emergesing" What the heck word is that? AGIN is recruiting!
Tedeski	Posted - 2006.06.08 15:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Callisto Augustus Originally by: CT BadIronTree "Emergesing" What the heck word is that? Let's ask 'clear and president danger' Bush. God I love dead ringers
Blind Man	Posted - 2006.06.08 15:26:00 - [29] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I doubt VOIP is active in local... Imagine Jita and Oursualert on voice comms WTS DARK BLOOD MED ARMOR REP PLS CONVO ME THX!111 OMFG I LOST MY NAVY MEGA TO ANGEL EXTRAVAGANZA BHUHHHOOO I QUIT GUNSHOT WTB VINDICATOR 900M PLS CONVO ME. ICH MOCHTE PIE!11 DUAL LIGHT PULSE LASER II'S ON ESCROW 500MILLION ISK EACH HHAHAHA I HAVE TEH BPO I OWN U WITH HI PRICES. PARLES VOUS FRANICAS? OMFG WHY DID U SHOOT ME?. WAR TARGETS AT THE GATE, DO NOT WARP IN!11 WTT NAVY RAVEN 4 FLEET TEMPEST PLS CONVOME!11 LOLLOLOL U NUB U GOT OWNED!11 WTS VELDSPAR!11 90 MILLION ISK P/U. OMG IRLEET01 IS AN ORETHIEF!11 SOMEONE GANG ME AND KILL HIM!11 BBQ11!11 WTS MY GRANDMOTHER, NEED FACTION REPPER FOR MY MEGA, WILL TRADE FOR ISK. WTB ASHIMUU 100M PLS CONVO MEH. head explodes ...yeah... i'd LOVE that.... that is quite possibly the funniest thing i've ever read on the forums
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.06.08 17:01:00 - [30] Originally by: DukDodgerz (idea, if you dont like local,,, minimize it, don't use it, just like turning off that offensive tv station.) while more intelligent than your logging-off-frieghter argument (not hard), this is a stupid suggestion. All it does is give you a huge disadvantage: it does not solve any of the issues being talked about.



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