The tiny ore hold of the Prospect is hardly enough to warrant travelling too far out of your way

Also

I dont believe they are bubble-proof

Won't this in same way start a myriad of new wars? I see this as CCP's way of opening up nullsec to everyone including new players like myself in order that they might get rarer ore they can't find elsewhere. Perhaps it wasn't their intent to start new conflicts, or perhaps it most certainly was their intent because that is the nature of EVE. I will honestly and carelessly traverse into nullsec to get ore because frankly it is hard to find in highsec and frankly I don't mind loosing a few ships to do so. I am sure there are plenty of others who have the motivation of doing so to build ships for their corp and/or for other reasons as well.

Yet, people put up warp bubbles to keep others out, when those bubbles no longer work as intended and their space is being mined hardcore right under their noses one has to ask a question. Do they care? If they do, then how are they going to go about dealing with this new band of covert mining ops? I mean isn't holding these sites important to each and everyone of the alliances that control them?

Perhaps I am just too new to the game and don't understand the vast mechanics of how things work. Maybe big alliances hardly care at all if some players wonder in their space and grab a little ore here and there.

Bubble proof or not, they'll still be cloaked and can move out of them, and with a large group and 1 prowler to haul the ore it might be worth it.

I for one am not worried about a highsec raid of nullsec mining sites, because that would involve leaving highsec.. and that's just something that highsec isn't willing to do.



They'll jump into lowsec, see another person in local and burn back to gate and jump back.

Won't this in same way start a myriad of new wars? I see this as CCP's way of opening up nullsec to everyone including new players like myself in order that they might get rarer ore they can't find elsewhere. Perhaps it wasn't their intent to start new conflicts, or perhaps it most certainly was their intent because that is the nature of EVE. I will honestly and carelessly traverse into nullsec to get ore because frankly it is hard to find in highsec and frankly I don't mind loosing a few ships to do so. I am sure there are plenty of others who have the motivation of doing so to build ships for their corp and/or for other reasons as well.

Yet, people put up warp bubbles to keep others out, when those bubbles no longer work as intended and their space is being mined hardcore right under their noses one has to ask a question. Do they care? If they do, then how are they going to go about dealing with this new band of covert mining ops? I mean isn't holding these sites important to each and everyone of the alliances that control them?

Perhaps I am just too new to the game and don't understand the vast mechanics of how things work. Maybe big alliances hardly care at all if some players wonder in their space and grab a little ore here and there.

Perhaps I am just too new to the game and don't understand the vast mechanics of how things work. Maybe big alliances hardly care at all if some players wonder in their space and grab a little ore here and there.

But alliances' strategy is to lobby upfront to CCP to make sure mosquitoes can't take that much blood anyway

Bubble proof or not, they'll still be cloaked and can move out of them, and with a large group and 1 prowler to haul the ore it might be worth it.

The ore out here isn't worth my time to mine--and I've got the option of doing it with mining barges while docking in-system and shipping via a JF service.

I can't imagine there will be many people mining it slowly via cloaky frigates, or that I would care if there were.

I for one am not worried about a highsec raid of nullsec mining sites, because that would involve leaving highsec.. and that's just something that highsec isn't willing to do.



They'll jump into lowsec, see another person in local and burn back to gate and jump back.

Training all my alts into prospects, covert cynos, and my main into blops bridging.

This is gonna be so much fun.

Training all my alts into prospects, covert cynos, and my main into blops bridging.

This is gonna be so much fun.

What makes the prospect better at this than covops/bombers/recons/etc.?

What makes the prospect better at this than covops/bombers/recons/etc.?

Imho the prospect will do it's best work in WH space.

Hoovering Gas and allowing slo-mo D scanners working without scouts the ability to escape even if there are non blues in W Space.

5 sec delay to cloak - I'll take that thanks. Hell I could sit in a field all the way up to the combat probes to start tickling my man potatoes and still managed to move 2500m by the time the warp in is fixed.


I was here.... now I am gone.

Also I don't see much utility in having a cov jump capable mining frigate if you still need a blops BS.

Also I don't see much utility in having a cov jump capable mining frigate if you still need a blops BS. I guess the industrial corps that are most interested in this feature won't go into the trouble of training an alt or recruiting a blops pilot just for that

How else do you expect to Cov Jump it?

And plenty of indy corps have this capability already for their Blockade Runners

I think since there are industrial applications, maybe there could be an ORE ship capable of generating the cov jump portal. Maybe the Orca I suppose.

You mean Roqual surely

And why? Blops arent that hard to train for

I forgot to check.. how much are they selling for?

Is it a cheaper alternative to other cyno hulls?

I mentioned orca because I think it compares better to a blops BS in both price and training time (although it seems a lot faster to train, I can't check the training time right now)

Maybe I'm just being too picky, but I don't see why the only ship capable of jumping mining frigates is a black ops ship, since said frigates are not "black ops" in the same sense.