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Darth Kidd	Posted - 2006.06.11 19:38:00 - [1] Edited by: Darth Kidd on 11/06/2006 19:43:00 so in this fleet battle right now, theres so much lag, and gezzz. pics. 1st pic. Linkage didn't lock anyone til' like 2 mins after 2nd pic Linkage locked something, but mods showed active way after. 3rd. pic Linkage wtf. 4th pic Linkage wtf. 5th pic Linkage wtf. o i'm at the pill! wonderful! So much for all them server updates and database updates. bah. and plz. make the message box for posting topics bigger. -dk What I say is not necessary representing The Big Blue Alliance
WETRAIN	Posted - 2006.06.11 19:45:00 - [2] 1st i`m cool - Dont Get Attached to anything you cant get rid off in less then 30 seconds when you sense the heat coming around the corner -
JuGGeR	Posted - 2006.06.11 19:46:00 - [3] i can sign 4 the lag , took around 3 min before i could turn on any mods... was hopeing they had lagg fixed in larger then 100 fleets, but dont look like it !! )= else great fun ... Phantom Squads Homepage
Serkis	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:00:00 - [4] How many pilots were involved in the battle and how many were on local?
dailyhazard	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:00:00 - [5] Well lag is part of the game nowadays Like Hac Prices Adapt Just warp in and go get a drink or something by the time your back you will have loaded. btw: what ship are you flying
Mechanical Death	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:01:00 - [6] Edited by: Mechanical Death on 11/06/2006 20:01:39 The lag was unbearable. Couldn't lock, couldn't fire, couldn't warp, it was just unplayable with roughly 120 people in local. Thanks for the good times CCP. Mechanical Death Chosen Path [CHSN]
Azeusus	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:03:00 - [7] Edited by: Azeusus on 11/06/2006 20:03:50 agree that the lag was shocking, my logs showed 6mins from pressing warp to the point i actually moved, in that time made myself a c-r-a-c-k-ing cup of coffee! Nice fight, didnt see any of it as overview was blank, but kudos to all for trying to fight.
Recluse Viramor	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:03:00 - [8] Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 11/06/2006 20:05:32 Yeah was a great battle aside from the horrid lag. It was a bit of a suprise though to have CI shooting us when it was believed that CI was blue to BB and was confirmed... obviously not the case. Would have been nice for them to announce their change of standings but it did add the element of suprise, albiet dishonorable.
Darth Kidd	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Serkis How many pilots were involved in the battle and how many were on local? 129. Originally by: dailyhazard Well lag is part of the game nowadays Like Hac Prices Adapt Just warp in and go get a drink or something by the time your back you will have loaded. btw: what ship are you flying Linkage What I say is not necessary representing The Big Blue Alliance
Darth Kidd	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Azeusus Edited by: Azeusus on 11/06/2006 20:03:50 agree that the lag was shocking, my logs showed 6mins from pressing warp to the point i actually moved, in that time made myself a c-r-a-c-k-ing cup of coffee! Nice fight, didnt see any of it as overview was blank, but kudos to all for trying to fight. I was really happy to have a fight, to bad it wasn't a enjoyable fight. its really sad, wanted a real lag free fight, that would have been freakn awesome. What I say is not necessary representing The Big Blue Alliance
Shigsy	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:07:00 - [11] Im in a TBB v MC thread... heh Although i wasn't able to take part in the battle, study, pc issues etc, i was trying to even chat while in bwf-zz... and that was even borked, something tells me lag shouldn't be this bad, even people who are in bigger fleet battles say this is the worst. Something needs to be fixed me thinks <-----Selling this spot for 100m isk----->
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:08:00 - [12] I was fine up until i was primary (unfortunately quite early) and my ship went poof unscrambled as i was spamming the warp command alligned at full speed zoomed out on a monster computer/connection with effects and so on off. Lag just chooses to hate random people i think. And on an unrelated note; Why the hell am I always primary, no matter who I'm fighting or what corp I'm in BDCI Recruitment Officersig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Shigsy	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:10:00 - [13] We love you thats why Also you logged out on my screen, not sure if that was lag or you logging <-----Selling this spot for 100m isk----->
Sivona	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:10:00 - [14] Originally by: ParMizaN Why the hell am I always primary, no matter who I'm fighting or what corp I'm in /emote hides the target on parmistans back
Sarmea Moon	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:11:00 - [15] 'Cause your name makes me think of spaghetti, mnnnnn :) Join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Hygelac	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:11:00 - [16] I don't know what it is that makes this particular system so laggy. I think its the 20-30 POS in system putting strain on that server. But it's only a guess. Either way, respect for fighting tonight.
Darth Kidd	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:12:00 - [17] Well from some of those pics, u can see i'm getting hit. ummmmmm, my repper didn't work What I say is not necessary representing The Big Blue Alliance
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:26:00 - [18] "There is no lag on these servers" Yeah right!!! (_x_) //Rec ----------- Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39 We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:27:00 - [19] I spent the entire fight (10-15min) locking a kestrel, i never got a shot off.
Taira Reikon	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:37:00 - [20] So, other than the lag, who won (or at least held the field)?
MadGaz	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:46:00 - [21] Would help if you got rid of everything running in the background (that corel draw + windows media player) and all those screens up in your eve client. --------------------------- What can I put here without getting banned?
dimensionZ	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:50:00 - [22] Nothing new here. ----------------------------------------
Stamm	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:50:00 - [23] Originally by: ParMizaN I was fine up until i was primary (unfortunately quite early) and my ship went poof unscrambled as i was spamming the warp command alligned at full speed zoomed out on a monster computer/connection with effects and so on off. Lag just chooses to hate random people i think. And on an unrelated note; Why the hell am I always primary, no matter who I'm fighting or what corp I'm in Karma.
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Taira Reikon So, other than the lag, who won (or at least held the field)? MC kills/Losses 22/5 8BS kills for the loss of 3 MC held the gate at the end. Lag won though tbh, was absolutely hideous My Latest Vid (18/04/06)
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:55:00 - [25] Originally by: Stamm Originally by: ParMizaN I was fine up until i was primary (unfortunately quite early) and my ship went poof unscrambled as i was spamming the warp command alligned at full speed zoomed out on a monster computer/connection with effects and so on off. Lag just chooses to hate random people i think. And on an unrelated note; Why the hell am I always primary, no matter who I'm fighting or what corp I'm in Karma. For what, may I ask? BDCI Recruitment Officersig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
The End	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:56:00 - [26] Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Stamm Originally by: ParMizaN I was fine up until i was primary (unfortunately quite early) and my ship went poof unscrambled as i was spamming the warp command alligned at full speed zoomed out on a monster computer/connection with effects and so on off. Lag just chooses to hate random people i think. And on an unrelated note; Why the hell am I always primary, no matter who I'm fighting or what corp I'm in Karma. For what, may I ask? wtf its the weekend. shouldnt you be drunk?
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:56:00 - [27] Originally by: dimensionZ Nothing new here. when only about 60 people are involved in a battle it should not be like his. hell, in this system if you are on your own there may be random 30-60 sec module lag BDCI Recruitment Officersig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.11 20:57:00 - [28] Originally by: The End Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Stamm Originally by: ParMizaN I was fine up until i was primary (unfortunately quite early) and my ship went poof unscrambled as i was spamming the warp command alligned at full speed zoomed out on a monster computer/connection with effects and so on off. Lag just chooses to hate random people i think. And on an unrelated note; Why the hell am I always primary, no matter who I'm fighting or what corp I'm in Karma. For what, may I ask? wtf its the weekend. shouldnt you be drunk? Sunday night >.< Ehhh and all my friends are at download festival :( BDCI Recruitment Officersig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
The End	Posted - 2006.06.11 21:01:00 - [29] Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: The End Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Stamm Originally by: ParMizaN I was fine up until i was primary (unfortunately quite early) and my ship went poof unscrambled as i was spamming the warp command alligned at full speed zoomed out on a monster computer/connection with effects and so on off. Lag just chooses to hate random people i think. And on an unrelated note; Why the hell am I always primary, no matter who I'm fighting or what corp I'm in Karma. For what, may I ask? wtf its the weekend. shouldnt you be drunk? Sunday night >.< Ehhh and all my friends are at download festival :( EXCUSES!!!!!!!! Sunday night monday night its all the same Get DRunk! and maybe you will kill something for a change runs lol ♥
Darth Kidd	Posted - 2006.06.11 21:01:00 - [30] Originally by: MadGaz Would help if you got rid of everything running in the background (that corel draw + windows media player) and all those screens up in your eve client. I opened corel after I was at the pill. And those programs didn't cause the lag. This was internet problem, hence (lag). If those programs where causing a problem i would have said "it was choppy" meaning FPS. Problem: lag, I wasn't the only one having the problem, many others, as you can see by reading the posts. -dk What I say is not necessary representing The Big Blue Alliance
Maxwell Power	Posted - 2006.06.11 21:39:00 - [31] Originally by: Eyeshadow Lag won though tbh, was absolutely hideous Yep. How can anyone say who's better under these conditions, since there's no way to know who was lagged out, unable to lock, unable to fire, unable to move, unable to do anything really. Personally I feel like I shouldn't even bother to fight under these circumstances, becuase my game experience has been 2 targets locked in about 30 minutes of combat and about 10 rounds expended. Lag is not new but CCP must address these issues. The game from my perspective is effectively unplayable, and currently the most likely winner of a battle would be whomever has the fickle finger of game lag on their side. Frankly, that's no way to play a game.
Azaries	Posted - 2006.06.11 21:42:00 - [32] Edited by: Azaries on 11/06/2006 21:43:02 Originally by: Eyeshadow Originally by: Taira Reikon So, other than the lag, who won (or at least held the field)? MC kills/Losses 22/5 8BS kills for the loss of 3 MC held the gate at the end. Lag won though tbh, was absolutely hideous Not sure if BB killed any MC BS's but I see 4 MC BS losses on the CHSN KB. Either way nice numbers , I know I was hearing nothing but frustration about the lag and the switch of CI's standings on our TS. I'm glad I logged in late and missed this one.
Tareen Kashaar	Posted - 2006.06.11 22:05:00 - [33] God yes, the lag was horrible! Might have saved my ship for a few minutes though, when everyone had locked me and I didn't see any of the yellow brackets turn red Unfortunately fighter drones don't have to click any modules... It is a kind of rewarding (?) moment though when your turrets finally activate at a target, even though you've told them to minutes ago. I was so happy to see those little icons next to my target, knowing that he wouldn't be able to do anything about it because of the lag What got me though in the end is that my right click menu decided to totally die on me, and not let me warp out. Good fight everyone involved! --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me!
URDEAD2ME	Posted - 2006.06.11 22:06:00 - [34] Originally by: ParMizaN Lag just chooses to hate random people i think. eh.. I thought i was the only one that felt that way
Hectic	Posted - 2006.06.11 22:13:00 - [35] WOW I think this is the 3rd BWF lag thread! a hint: Lag never goes away in fleet fights unless they can be planned enough for the GMs/Devs (whatever) to rout more server resources to ya. I hope in the future fleet fights are more lag free, but I guess current technology can only go so far. :( Sig must be under 24000 bytes - Cathath ([email protected]) They ganked my sig!!
Bala Dwinn	Posted - 2006.06.11 22:39:00 - [36] Fleet fights aren't supported successfully by Eve. Wish CCP would simply acknowledge that and make their marketing language reflect it. Too bad, since they also promote alliances which in my view goes hand in hand with large scale fleet fights. I wonder if alliances really aren't successfully supported either...
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.06.11 22:43:00 - [37] I still think fleet battles should be auto-resolved by server when more than 80ppl are involved :p but then again I am not a big fan of sniper fights - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.06.11 22:46:00 - [38] Word on the street is that a NAGA capital shipyard that went pop had a nyx building in it. Well played. --------
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.11 22:47:00 - [39] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 11/06/2006 22:49:14 Originally by: Hectic WOW I think this is the 3rd BWF lag thread! a hint: Lag never goes away in fleet fights unless they can be planned enough for the GMs/Devs (whatever) to rout more server resources to ya. I hope in the future fleet fights are more lag free, but I guess current technology can only go so far. :( Well the GM we talked to last weekend said it wasn't possible to route more resources as its automatically done, also he said their wasn't any lag whatsoever in BWF last weekend and that no one else had complained about it , seriously to get a response like that is pathetic.
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.06.11 22:49:00 - [40] If you think that's bad, wait til you fight Goonfleet :) Testy's Eve Blog, Updated 01/06/06
Zudari	Posted - 2006.06.11 23:02:00 - [41] omg there was a fleet battle and here i am studying trigonometry!!!!!!!! luckly ill be on to my regular schedule on thursday :)
BhallSpawn	Posted - 2006.06.11 23:15:00 - [42] "MC held the gate in the end" Yeah.. difference between a fully loaded area that your already in As opposed to an area blobbed with ships that you have to load warping in.
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.06.11 23:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 11/06/2006 22:49:14 Originally by: Hectic WOW I think this is the 3rd BWF lag thread! a hint: Lag never goes away in fleet fights unless they can be planned enough for the GMs/Devs (whatever) to rout more server resources to ya. I hope in the future fleet fights are more lag free, but I guess current technology can only go so far. :( Well the GM we talked to last weekend said it wasn't possible to route more resources as its automatically done, also he said their wasn't any lag whatsoever in BWF last weekend and that no one else had complained about it , seriously to get a response like that is pathetic. More likely the GM said that there were no records of lag causing your ship loss. There was plenty of other dicussion about it in the other bwf lag cry thread. Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Darth Kidd	Posted - 2006.06.11 23:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 11/06/2006 22:49:14 Originally by: Hectic WOW I think this is the 3rd BWF lag thread! a hint: Lag never goes away in fleet fights unless they can be planned enough for the GMs/Devs (whatever) to rout more server resources to ya. I hope in the future fleet fights are more lag free, but I guess current technology can only go so far. :( Well the GM we talked to last weekend said it wasn't possible to route more resources as its automatically done, also he said their wasn't any lag whatsoever in BWF last weekend and that no one else had complained about it , seriously to get a response like that is pathetic. Hopefully, with the responeses in this thread they (CCP) might do something. What I say is not necessary representing The Big Blue Alliance
Dreez	Posted - 2006.06.11 23:28:00 - [45] Im sorry to say this, but there is no lag in EVE. Its 120 computers spread around the world breaking down exactly the same time . Having Tuxford fixing the blasters is like having a blind man teaching you how to drive - just wont work.
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.06.11 23:35:00 - [46] Originally by: The Enslaver Edited by: The Enslaver on 11/06/2006 23:09:22 Word on the street is that NAGA lost something big, curvy and green in that capital shipyard... Well played. Excuse me. Can we get an update about this ? At least rumours etc. Did MC killed Big Blue POS with Cap shipyard ? ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
Zudari	Posted - 2006.06.11 23:55:00 - [47] lol i didnt realise we had a capital shipyard i thought they came from the pill
EdIsAlive	Posted - 2006.06.12 00:06:00 - [48] Originally by: The Enslaver Edited by: The Enslaver on 11/06/2006 23:09:22 Word on the street is that NAGA lost something big, curvy and green in that capital shipyard... Well played. If this is true sorta makes EU look like human shields for NAGA.
Crystallys Spyre	Posted - 2006.06.12 00:21:00 - [49] Word on the street is they lost a complete Capital shipyard POS and there was a mothership that went boom boom cause its production wasn't complete when it got toasted. Not exactly sure as rumor mill is most likely false. Anyone that can confirm any of this to be true?? "Lickity lick a lolipop, one taste of sweets and I just can't stop"
Furnak Tye	Posted - 2006.06.12 00:27:00 - [50] I am very **ed off with it all and thus i'm putting off from major fleet battles as at the moment they are not at all enjoyable, even large battles are pot luck. If it was a problem with my computer or my connection I wouldn't be **ed off, it would be my own bloody fault and i'd upgrade. But its nothing to do with my computer or my connection, the problem lies at CCP's end, if they admitted that there was a problem I would understand but at the moment the official word seems to be "there is no lag". In this case therefore tactics go out the window as people freeze up and BB, MC and everyone else just ends up sitting there looking at our screens not knowing if your dead, if you've fired or if you've been able to warp out. Additionally in this war BB needs to be able to use tactics to be able to defend ourselfs but we can't. I know it may seem like a whine, but im paying for this game and i want CCP to acknowledge my concerns and say they are doing something about it, I would even accept (though its not feasible) if they ended setting limits on how many players from either side could warp to a specific area. What i want if for either CCP to say they are going to be able to fix it or admit to us that there is a problem at the very least.
Emsigma	Posted - 2006.06.12 00:45:00 - [51] Edited by: Emsigma on 12/06/2006 00:47:33 It is complete and utter bull**** that "there is no lag". For me as a customer it is totally irrelevant for what reason the system is so laggy. I am running a new nicely specced computer and I am on the internet backbone in Sweden, so to say at the problems is at MY end is just blatant lies. When I was up in Burgerking we had twice the size of the fleets and literarly over 1000 drones out when we warped in. Sure it took 30 seconds to load the grid but once loaded it went somewhat smooth. In BWF the lag is 10 times worse when local was up to 50. Edit: BTW.. the two GM's that paid us a visit today when local was up to 70. Did you experience any lag at all in that system at that time? Note that there was no fighting going on at all at that time. Thank you CCP for just telling us every single time that there is no such thing as lag in BWF and that you will not even consider to take a look at it. If those GM's can post/evemail me and swear on their firstbones grave that they did not experience any lag in that system at that time I will forever be silent about the issue.
Shaelin Corpius	Posted - 2006.06.12 00:54:00 - [52] We all know theres lag in fleet battles. But there really shouldn't be the lag there is atm with the amount of people that are in BWF. Both sides of this war are gimped by this horrendous lag. The 40 Large pos in system are contributing to the lag a bunch, but it really sucks cause none of the fights are occuring at these pos. CCP could u please give BWF the memory alotment Jita has please for the next couple weeks? Cause the fleet operations here are quite smaller compared to the ones i've been in before yet they are almost unplayable.
Equinox II	Posted - 2006.06.12 01:08:00 - [53] There must be something seriously wrong with BWF, i don't know what's causing it, but GMs deny any problem. I've been in many laggy battles, from the lag and node crashes in VV-VCR a long time ago to jumping in on the PA drone-camp in BKG - but, this beats everything. Yes, there is usually lag involved in big fleet fights, but here it's just crazy and you even get module-lag in small engagements. I was really looking forward to get some good fraps of these engagements, but all I got was 30 minutes of me trying to activate my guns. The GMs say everything from that they can't manually allocate more power to BWF, to that there is no such thing as server-lag. VIDS: Raven Showdown \| Contraband Inc \| Rogue Titan
ElGrumpo	Posted - 2006.06.12 02:26:00 - [54] This was the second battle in this war i fought in. Again it was unplayable. Everyone in MC and TBB have every right to be ****ed off about their service requests being swept under the rug by CCP. How many businesses in the world can prosper by not offering customer service? CCP you are no different. Either acknowledge and communicate a plan to fix those problems or EVE players will find other ways to spend their entertainment dollars on products that are not broken. Does CCP really want us to put the word out that their product is only playable if you mine, haul, or pvp 1 on 1? So far my limited experiance in alliance warfare is unplayable at best. Im not sure I care to accumulate isk to buy support ships for fleet operations in battles that can't be fought because of game limitations. What is the point in support ships? Or skills that are used to support other players on the battle field if the game can't handle a mid size battle like we had today?
Cringeley	Posted - 2006.06.12 03:03:00 - [55] Originally by: ElGrumpo This was the second battle in this war i fought in. Again it was unplayable. Everyone in MC and TBB have every right to be ****ed off about their service requests being swept under the rug by CCP. How many businesses in the world can prosper by not offering customer service? CCP you are no different. Either acknowledge and communicate a plan to fix those problems or EVE players will find other ways to spend their entertainment dollars on products that are not broken. Does CCP really want us to put the word out that their product is only playable if you mine, haul, or pvp 1 on 1? So far my limited experiance in alliance warfare is unplayable at best. Im not sure I care to accumulate isk to buy support ships for fleet operations in battles that can't be fought because of game limitations. What is the point in support ships? Or skills that are used to support other players on the battle field if the game can't handle a mid size battle like we had today? CCP don't have to give customer service in this case because if MC boycott they lose their mission fee and if TBB boycott they lose their space. Of course the simple answer for TBB is to make sure they're not the ones jumping/warping in, which should be easier than it seems to have been so far when they're on the defensive. -------------------------------------------- Thrice is he armed who has his quarrel just, But four times he who gets his blow in fust.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.12 05:31:00 - [56] Edited by: Seleene on 12/06/2006 05:31:39 Originally by: Crystallys Spyre Word on the street is they lost a complete Capital shipyard POS and there was a mothership that went boom boom cause its production wasn't complete when it got toasted. Not exactly sure as rumor mill is most likely false. Anyone that can confirm any of this to be true?? Confirmed. More details 'soon'. And, yes, the lag sucks. - History of the MC movie!
NATMav	Posted - 2006.06.12 05:47:00 - [57] [tinfoil]MC should get their BoB GM alts to boost the node[/tinfoil]
Grimster	Posted - 2006.06.12 08:58:00 - [58] Originally by: NATMav [tinfoil]MC should get their BoB GM alts to boost the node[/tinfoil] Heh - that made me laugh. The lag doesn't We blog at The Jammy Blog
Rina Shanu	Posted - 2006.06.12 09:28:00 - [59] Originally by: ParMizaN And on an unrelated note; Why the hell am I always primary, no matter who I'm fighting or what corp I'm in fooooodddd
fuze	Posted - 2006.06.12 09:46:00 - [60] Originally by: ParMizaN Originally by: Stamm Karma. For what, may I ask? In a previous life you was TankCEO?
Ishida	Posted - 2006.06.12 09:47:00 - [61] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 12/06/2006 05:31:39 Originally by: Crystallys Spyre Word on the street is they lost a complete Capital shipyard POS and there was a mothership that went boom boom cause its production wasn't complete when it got toasted. Not exactly sure as rumor mill is most likely false. Anyone that can confirm any of this to be true?? Confirmed. More details 'soon'. And, yes, the lag sucks. Lag sucks indeed. And also, before anybody makes a drama out of it: Yes, we lost a capital shipyard. Yes, we lost a fair amount of capital components that were in the HANGAR (::: nothing was producing at that POS :::). We made a little error and forgot to evacuate the contents of that particular POS last week when we were informed about the upcoming war. This has resulted in the loss of about 20bill in capital components, the moment MC blew the POS to bits. However, I firmly decline a "a mothership went boom cause it's production wasn't complete". We have multiple Shipyards and we stock massive amounts components at all of them; we forgot to evacuate this one and that was our bad. And to answer the question before it gets answered: it's not having any direct on our capital production at all. Capital ship production is still going on in our empire factories, and, obviously, all capital ship production in IPS has been paused since the start of the war. It was a stupid mistake but has no real effects on anything [BLUE] or N.A.G.A. -- NAGAMAZON webshop
BLAIYNE	Posted - 2006.06.12 09:56:00 - [62] Well, having fought in skirmishes several times on Sunday (and lost a Raven in one - good fight MC!) with no sign of lag, I was looking forward to the big fleet battle later that evening once we started forming up. When I warped in, I didn't get a single shot off, and only managed to target 2 people. I sure as hell couldn't warp out when my shields and armour failed (I couldn't get any right click menus up at all), and once my ship was killed it took 4 minutes for the pod to load. Luckily that responded to one of the many frantic commands I'd been trying to give my Raven earlier, and warped out. I have absolutely no problem losing ships in a fair fight, and in fact would probably have lost it anyway, but losing it without getting a single shot off is pretty gutting. Oh well, maybe next time Oh, and while we're on the topic, nice to have some smack-free fights - respect to all concerned.
Sivona	Posted - 2006.06.12 10:04:00 - [63] Originally by: BLAIYNE Edited by: BLAIYNE on 12/06/2006 09:57:19 Well, having fought in skirmishes several times on Sunday (and lost a Raven in one - good fight MC!) with no sign of lag, I was looking forward to the big fleet battle later that evening once we started forming up. When I warped in, I didn't get a single shot off, and only managed to target 2 people. I sure as hell couldn't warp out when my shields and armour failed (I couldn't get any right click menus up at all), and once my ship was killed it took 4 minutes for the pod to load. Luckily that responded to one of the many frantic commands I'd been trying to give my Raven earlier, and warped out. I have absolutely no problem losing ships in a fair fight, and in fact would probably have lost it anyway, but losing it without getting a single shot off is pretty gutting. Oh well, maybe next time Oh, and while we're on the topic, nice to have some smack-free fights - respect to all concerned. I had 4 points on you anyway (even if it did take 2 mins to activate them)maybe it didn't update the warping thingy on your raven but yes that lag was horrendous, considering you had advantage of positioning your support in our bs i think you were hit as hard by the lag monster as us based on the results. Good fights though and no smack really, which is very refreshing :)
BLAIYNE	Posted - 2006.06.12 10:21:00 - [64] Ah - well in that case I probably wasn't going anywhere anyway. Still, would have been nice to have made a dent in someone, even if only a little dent!
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.12 10:39:00 - [65] Edited by: Seleene on 12/06/2006 10:42:55 I would have preferred to discuss this in private, but I must ask a few things: Originally by: Ishida Yes, we lost a capital shipyard. Yes, we lost a fair amount of capital components that were in the HANGAR (::: nothing was producing at that POS :::). Thanks for saving me the trouble of confirming this in private. Quote: However, I firmly decline a "a mothership went boom cause it's production wasn't complete". The number of components present in the array were certainly enough to build a Nyx so whether it was "building" or not, what difference does that make really? More importantly, I must ask about this: Quote: This has resulted in the loss of about 20bill in capital components, the moment MC blew the POS to bits. Quote: It was a stupid mistake but has no real effects on anything [BLUE] or N.A.G.A. In terms of just infrastructure, you lost 20 billion in capital components, another 10 billion or more in POS's and modules... but it has no real effect on you? M8, statements like that are a bit over the top. Like yours, my alliance is one of the richest in the game, but I can promise you that if someone took that much money out of my cookie jar in one weekend, I'd notice. Anyway, I'm not going to go any further with this on these forums. I wouldn't mind speaking with you or other BB leadership in private. You may contact me in game later today or ask Elroy for my MSN. - History of the MC movie!
zyto	Posted - 2006.06.12 10:50:00 - [66] Lag with those numbers is rediculous, ccp should be embarresed tbh.
Ishida	Posted - 2006.06.12 11:10:00 - [67] Edited by: Ishida on 12/06/2006 11:11:08 Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 12/06/2006 10:42:55 Quote: However, I firmly decline a "a mothership went boom cause it's production wasn't complete". The number of components present in the array were certainly enough to build a Nyx so whether it was "building" or not, what difference does that make really? More importantly, I must ask about this: Quote: This has resulted in the loss of about 20bill in capital components, the moment MC blew the POS to bits. Quote: It was a stupid mistake but has no real effects on anything [BLUE] or N.A.G.A. In terms of just infrastructure, you lost 20 billion in capital components, another 10 billion or more in POS's and modules... but it has no real effect on you? M8, statements like that are a bit over the top. Like yours, my alliance is one of the richest in the game, but I can promise you that if someone took that much money out of my cookie jar in one weekend, I'd notice. Anyway, I'm not going to go any further with this on these forums. I wouldn't mind speaking with you or other BB leadership in private. You may contact me in game later today or ask Elroy for my MSN. Hey Seleene :) Only going to reply 1 thing in public: it really has no real effect on us, I don't lie about stuff like that. Yes, ofcourse we notice somebody took 30Bill out of our cookie jar and we don't like it, but it's already dealt with. For the msn thingie: I'm actually already on your list ... search for Andy@work I'm standing by to hear from you ! edit: typo -- NAGAMAZON webshop
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.06.12 11:13:00 - [68] the only winners here were CCPs accoutns department
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.12 11:33:00 - [69] Originally by: Ishida For the msn thingie: I'm actually already on your list ... search for Andy@work I'm standing by to hear from you ! FFS, that's you? Crap, wish I would have realized that earlier. I've got five 'Andy's' on MSN now. We'll talk soon. - History of the MC movie!
The End	Posted - 2006.06.12 12:48:00 - [70] Edited by: The End on 12/06/2006 12:50:23 lol i like how N.A.G.A tries to save face by saying a 20+bil loss doesnt affect them.... That is big loss indeed not only did you lose potential isk making but you contributed to the morale of your enemies simutainously decreasing your alliances morale. in terms of isk it may or may not be a devesating loss. it would for most alliances however its the other factors that hurt the most...
Ishida	Posted - 2006.06.12 13:00:00 - [71] Originally by: The End Edited by: The End on 12/06/2006 12:50:23 lol i like how N.A.G.A tries to save face by saying a 20+bil loss doesnt affect them.... That is big loss indeed not only did you lose potential isk making but you contributed to the morale of your enemies simutainously decreasing your alliances morale. in terms of isk it may or may not be a devesating loss. it would for most alliances however its the other factors that hurt the most... Alliance morale has only gone up in the past few days, I refer to this very topic where it's stated that we had a nice fight, despite the lag, and that there was no smack etc etc. Saying stuff like "tries to save face" and "decreasing alliance morale" is a wrong assumption, cause: - we don't have to save face; we are under attack, we just lost 30Bill. I said we are annoyed, never said it was not a big loss, but it has no effect on BLUE, only on NAGA. And naga dealt with it already. If anything, we acknowledge the fact MC is doing a good job for their client. - alliance morale is at an alltime high; you should see the eve blue forum :-) it has all been said now tbh. -- NAGAMAZON webshop
One Purpose	Posted - 2006.06.12 13:13:00 - [72] Originally by: Ishida - we don't have to save face; we are under attack, we just lost 30Bill. I said we are annoyed, never said it was not a big loss, but it has no effect on BLUE, only on NAGA. And naga dealt with it already. How did you do that? I havent played for very long but just how do you deal with a 30 billion isk loss? Quote: - alliance morale is at an alltime high; you should see the eve blue forum :-) Maybe up where you are morale is high but the common player who cant replace 30 billion isk losses feels a bit differently. All of the talk about lag aside what has blue really done to stop the MC steemroller? Is there some giant counterattack in the works or are the people in charge really waiting on these Penetrate idiots who were shooting at us a couple weeks ago to save us? "Put up yer ducks!! Err... dukes!"
Ishida	Posted - 2006.06.12 13:24:00 - [73] Originally by: One Purpose How did you do that? I havent played for very long but just how do you deal with a 30 billion isk loss? by working hard, all day long, since they day they announced Tech2. Honestly, we had setbacks that cost us almost as much as this, and we're still here, right ? Quote: Maybe up where you are morale is high but the common player who cant replace 30 billion isk losses feels a bit differently. All of the talk about lag aside what has blue really done to stop the MC steemroller? Is there some giant counterattack in the works or are the people in charge really waiting on these Penetrate idiots who were shooting at us a couple weeks ago to save us? there's not 1 player here replacing the 30Bill loss. We are 125+ in N.A.G.A, last time I counted. I'm not trying to talk down the loss, cause it is 30Bill. It's alot for us aswell, but we deal with it. As an example, would BoB fall apart or die when they loose their supposed Titan ? I don't think so. Neither will BLUE. We will keep on fighting, as we proved yesterday evening -- NAGAMAZON webshop
The End	Posted - 2006.06.12 13:43:00 - [74] Morale is down.. You may not think so but your members speak volumes. Based on members i know from inside your alliance and talks between MC and and your members that i have seen i do stick my nose around :) but its ok morale is up for you guys cuz you said so :)
WETRAIN	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:28:00 - [75] Well i wanted to die so hard but to my amazement i didnt ... ffs ... we warped in .. locked primary, 2nd and 3rd target all good, but then i saw primary go down , then modules wouldnt activate, overwiew started to get yeeeeelooow, warp , warp , warp , ship not movin .. WARP GOD DAMNIT, then i saw 3 inties scrambling me , then i warped in hull ofc, ok repaired myself, fight was going on, people complaining lag is humongous, i dont care warp back to someone, i ended up like 140 away from MC fleet, but i had some CI guys on my a$$ , woot for them beeing blue, warp , warp warp, no response, CI intie scrambling me , back in structure, warp damnit, half structure , activating nos on the intie... and i`m OUUUUUUT. And the battle was over. Lag won. Gf MC. - Dont Get Attached to anything you cant get rid off in less then 30 seconds when you sense the heat coming around the corner -
juduzz	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:37:00 - [76] Originally by: WETRAIN Well i wanted to die so hard but to my amazement i didnt ... ffs ... we warped in .. locked primary, 2nd and 3rd target all good, but then i saw primary go down , then modules wouldnt activate, overwiew started to get yeeeeelooow, warp , warp , warp , ship not movin .. WARP GOD DAMNIT, then i saw 3 inties scrambling me , then i warped in hull ofc, ok repaired myself, fight was going on, people complaining lag is humongous, i dont care warp back to someone, i ended up like 140 away from MC fleet, but i had some CI guys on my a$$ , woot for them beeing blue, warp , warp warp, no response, CI intie scrambling me , back in structure, warp damnit, half structure , activating nos on the intie... and i`m OUUUUUUT. And the battle was over. Lag won. Gf MC. But the most important info we need to know: DID THE GOAT SURVIVE!! ?? ps: you left detla?
Faramare	Posted - 2006.06.12 17:28:00 - [77] To Big Blue: Ever thought that paying those 20bil - 30bil - or even 40+++ bil that you're losing in this war (because factories are at halt in BWF, etc), to some corp/alliance to help you in your battle? Would definitely be much more worth the iskies...
Darth Kidd	Posted - 2006.06.12 17:49:00 - [78] Can this Thread be locked plz. Gone of topic. -dk What I say is not necessary representing The Big Blue Alliance
WETRAIN	Posted - 2006.06.12 18:12:00 - [79] i left Delta ... and i`l be leaving EVE for good. in one week EvE will get rid of Unfo - Dont Get Attached to anything you cant get rid off in less then 30 seconds when you sense the heat coming around the corner -
juduzz	Posted - 2006.06.12 19:25:00 - [80] Originally by: WETRAIN i left Delta ... and i`l be leaving EVE for good. in one week EvE will get rid of Unfo Why? we need more crazy romanian gaot shaggers in eve :/ dont go or ill kill the goat!
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.06.12 20:03:00 - [81] not Unforg1ven
WETRAIN	Posted - 2006.06.12 22:41:00 - [82] traxio yes i am unforg1ven ... and i was in Mad Syth with you and the rest of the crew :) - Dont Get Attached to anything you cant get rid off in less then 30 seconds when you sense the heat coming around the corner -

Eshtir	Posted - 2006.06.12 23:48:00 - [83] Locked on request of the thread starter. -Eshtir forum rules \| [email protected] Yulai, we have a problem!


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