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DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 14:21:00 -
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I have an appointment for this afternoon to duel my Drake against another dude's. He brags about he has all drake maxed out and probably is true as I know for certain the dude is mean.
Said this, and wanting to survive the encounter and keep my honour save I come here to see if any advice can give me the plus I sure need.
Not all is lost. My missile skills are all maxed out and so are my shield's -except the remote ones, but those dont matter here-. Almost perfect for my Warrior II drones and pretty lame or average on ECM or remote energy sucker/gremling.
The dude is a vet and skill wise he most probably is going to get the better of me. My only chande is a surprise fit? I have a chance at all? Er fury missiles and not precision, right?
So, any advice that doesnt imply cheating -like having a friend that pops a Scymitar in due moment or things like that, save those ideas, I don't want them- would be most welcomed.
Thanks.
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
339
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Posted - 2014.06.08 14:32:00 -
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Fit Kinect hoarders. Use HAMs with thermal missiles, fit a scrsm so he doesn't micro jump drive. Hope he is stupid.
That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money.... |
Anize Oramara
S T R A T C O M
Critical-Mass
180
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Posted - 2014.06.08 14:41:00 -
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Jams |
Liam Inkuras
Mafia Redux
1126
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:08:00 -
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Show up in a Harbinger
I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Savnire Jacitu
Abysmal Gentlemen
281
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:09:00 -
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Step one, paint a nighthawk all grey again.......
<corrupt> |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:12:00 -
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One concern I allways have is what are the victory conditions. I mean do I have to destroy his ship or if he runs away I can count it also as a victory? I know ideally his destruction is the best option but it takes the use of a module soleliy for that -some power, cpu and cap- If I aim to survive, shouldn't I get that slot for shield and get there the extra I need?
Thermal fury heavies seems a good choice and something I doubt he'd be prepared for. And definitely I am bringing 1x Gravimetric.
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Lloyd Roses
616
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:20:00 -
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Be a jackass and get EC-300s and an AB.
"I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Amonios Zula
Aeon Ascendant
16
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:25:00 -
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Depends on what hardeners he's gone for and if he's plugged the typical EM hole in shields.
he could also be reading this thread :D |
Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp
Gentlemen's Agreement
294
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:31:00 -
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Step 1:
Buy 2x Mobile Depot. Drop them somewhere. Shoot them into reinforce. Scoop them up.
Step 2:
[Drake, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Kinetic Deflection Field II
EM Ward Field II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
[empty high slot]
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
This is your fit.
Keep every hardener in your cargohold 2 times. 2x EM, 2x Therm, 2x Kin, 2x Explo.
Step 3:
Open your log before the battle comences.
Step 4:
Battle commences.
Step 5:
Drop the first mobile depot.
Step 6:
Read in your log what missiles he is using.
Step 7:
Move away from the depot and drop the second one asap. (6km)
Step 8:
See if he shoots the depots.
Step 9:
If yes, stay at Depot #2.
If no, reapproach Depot #1.
Step 10:
Once the first depot is online, refit for the right hardeners.
Step 11:
Repeat step 6 and 10.
Step 12:
Claim victory.
Edit:
The Self-explanatory part
Overheat your missiles in the beginning for a few cycles so you chip through a good part of EHP fast.
Let them cool.
When he reaches 40% shield, overheat launchers again. It's now your goal to burn through his tank-peak asap and get beyond those 30%.
Overheat your hardeners when the right ones are plugged in. |
Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp
V.A.S.T.
443
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:32:00 -
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Don't use warriors. Use hobgoblins or whatever the amarr one is. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:36:00 -
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Amonios Zula wrote:Depends on what hardeners he's gone for and if he's plugged the typical EM hole in shields.
he could also be reading this thread :D
My thoughts :D
Anyway I am optimistic. It may happen I get the force on my side and got lucky and he doesnt. May be the most typical fit what he sould't expect?
Alea jacta est.
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DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:37:00 -
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Chris Winter wrote:Don't use warriors. Use hobgoblins or whatever the amarr one is.
Right.
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
623
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:38:00 -
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Bring friends. And stop trying to be honorable, it'll only get you killed. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:43:00 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:Step 1:
Buy 2x Mobile Depot. Drop them somewhere. Shoot them into reinforce. Scoop them up.
Step 2:
[Drake, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Kinetic Deflection Field II
EM Ward Field II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
[empty high slot]
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
This is your fit.
Keep every hardener in your cargohold 2 times. 2x EM, 2x Therm, 2x Kin, 2x Explo.
Step 3:
Open your log before the battle comences.
Step 4:
Battle commences.
Step 5:
Drop the first mobile depot.
Step 6:
Read in your log what missiles he is using.
Step 7:
Move away from the depot and drop the second one asap. (6km)
Step 8:
See if he shoots the depots.
Step 9:
If yes, stay at Depot #2.
If no, reapproach Depot #1.
Step 10:
Once the first depot is online, refit for the right hardeners.
Step 11:
Repeat step 6 and 10.
Step 12:
Claim victory.
Edit:
The Self-explanatory part
Overheat your missiles in the beginning for a few cycles so you chip through a good part of EHP fast.
Let them cool.
When he reaches 40% shield, overheat launchers again. It's now your goal to burn through his tank-peak asap and get beyond those 30%.
Overheat your hardeners when the right ones are plugged in.
How to open log  ?
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DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:44:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Bring friends. And stop trying to be honorable, it'll only get you killed.
That would espoil the enjoyment in the case I win. It would give him the excuse to diminish my deed.
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Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp
Gentlemen's Agreement
294
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:46:00 -
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click the big E above your characters profile
---> Accessoires
---> Notifications and Log |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:51:00 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:click the big E above your characters profile
---> Accessoires
---> Notifications and Log
Thanks so much. I am going to practice the manouvers so when battle beguins I am familiar with the proces. I do reinforce the mobile depots by shoting them myself? No CONCORD problems?
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
623
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:58:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Bring friends. And stop trying to be honorable, it'll only get you killed. That would espoil the enjoyment in the case I win. It would give him the excuse to diminish my deed.
Let him diminish it, he'd still have lost a ship. Frankly, I'd go for the pod too, just to bring insult to injury. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 16:34:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:DHuncan wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Bring friends. And stop trying to be honorable, it'll only get you killed. That would espoil the enjoyment in the case I win. It would give him the excuse to diminish my deed. Let him diminish it, he'd still have lost a ship. Frankly, I'd go for the pod too, just to bring insult to injury.
 I will have a Scymitar in space. In case he thinks that way too and also being in a fleet will add a bit more due to leathership skills. But dont tell.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
818
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Posted - 2014.06.08 16:42:00 -
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Overheat.
Thermodynamics V. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 16:52:00 -
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RavenPaine wrote:Overheat.
Thermodynamics V.
I'm fine at that chapter ;)
I am doing some reads about mobile depots. I have five and use two as commercial boards, so to speak. I am checking on reinforcement mode but I dont find what I want. So, why to reinforce before combat then scoop to ready them for combat? Why dont I just drop them when combat beguins? I need to go out there and find the why myself. Has something to do with scooping them loaded with the hardeners inside?
How interesting anyway.
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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
105
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Posted - 2014.06.08 16:54:00 -
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Rig for range. Out range him with heavy missiles.
Laugh as he dies and there's nothing, save running away, he can do about it. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 17:02:00 -
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afkalt wrote:Rig for range. Out range him with heavy missiles.
Laugh as he dies and there's nothing, save running away, he can do about it.
Lst night we had a first dance my Tengu against his Legion and I was able to hit him while he couldnt even target log me. He still moved faster and came close enaugh for he to lock me when his shield was all down. Not close enaugh thou to shot at me. I warped off when I realized I was doing literally no damage at all to his armour. I will relay on the assumption I can shoot further and save my rigs for shields. I normally use recharge rate but this time I will use size, so if I lose I will blame it on you guys.
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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
105
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Posted - 2014.06.08 17:11:00 -
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If he can't hit you, why would you need a shield?
However, it's your fight. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 17:24:00 -
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afkalt wrote:If he can't hit you, why would you need a shield?
However, it's your fight.
I know what you say is clever. But I already asume I will have to find the limit distance he still cannot hit me... while I keep a B plan. Or I don't fit a scram either due to he's going to be out of it's range.
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0rch1d
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
5
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Posted - 2014.06.08 22:09:00 -
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He's reading this thread. |
Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc
The Pears of Anguish
20
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Posted - 2014.06.08 22:17:00 -
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Just set Caldari Specific ECM's in as many mids as possible, Obviously you will need a scram still and AB, Then just hope you can perma jam him,you'll most likely require Co Processors in 1 or 2 lows to get more ECM's on, Also fit signal distortion amps in the remaining lows :P |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
60
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Posted - 2014.06.08 23:23:00 -
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0rch1d wrote:He's reading this thread.
I know and he knows that I know that he knows. So what would he fit now? 
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Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc
The Pears of Anguish
24
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Posted - 2014.06.08 23:34:00 -
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he'll fit a drake, Probably go with a standard HAM PvP fit still since all this has had is a lot of fitting ideas fired at you. you haven't actually given away your fit at all. You could always use a Loophole in the agreement and turn up in a navy drake, Still a drake after all.
To be fair doesn't really matter since if he beats you he's doing you a favour really, Drakes are pretty poor ships these days |
Marc Durant
8
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Posted - 2014.06.09 00:06:00 -
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Simple; before the fight bring an alt in first with passive targeter, ship and cargo scanner. Figure out the resists he's fitting and the ammo he has in the cargo hold. adapt your ammo type and resists accordingly. |
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