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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.09.26 12:04:00 -
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New fashion trend amongst pirates: Camping in empire space, systems under 0.5. But not at the gates, noooooooooo sir. Camping at system jump/entry points. Hmmm... lost a ship due to one while doing a mission. I have a question for you campers with huge negative rating: Don't you get shot by guns at the gates when you try to leave the system? Or do guns just react to violence acts?
Anyway, people watch out, don't go to toilet while passing trough 0.4 an lower with your autopilot on since the campers are back!!! (Sniff, I came back just in time to self destruct my scramled pod, snif)
Toiltepodded you may say
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Serge
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Posted - 2003.09.26 12:09:00 -
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0.4 sec space was never considered save
camping at entry points is "in" for quite a while now. Example: tankCEO at Sarum prime
goin to toilet while warping in/trough 0.4 is .. well ... sh*t happens
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2003.09.26 12:24:00 -
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I've been living in < 0.4 space for months, never had a problem.
Then again... the Campers would need to go through a lot of Empire Space first before they get to my corner of Metropolis.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.26 12:49:00 -
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Jumping into systems at the same point was the most stupid thing to have been added to this game yet.
It needs to be sorted out as soon as possible.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.09.26 12:55:00 -
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"goin to toilet while warping in/trough 0.4 is .. well ... sh*t happens"
Well said my friend
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mk ultra
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Posted - 2003.09.26 13:12:00 -
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stop being afk and get a warpcore stabilizer
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.26 13:28:00 -
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stop being afk and get a warpcore stabilizer
ERRRRMMMMMM.
The problem isnt the camping, its the lagging of jump in points, by the time your screen has loaded, u are sitting in a pod, lets see how good your stabiliser is then my friend.
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.09.26 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: zincol on 26/09/2003 14:40:59
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stop being afk and get a warpcore stabilizer
ERRRRMMMMMM.
The problem isnt the camping, its the lagging of jump in points, by the time your screen has loaded, u are sitting in a pod, lets see how good your stabiliser is then my friend.
LMFAO - Least u get a free trip home??
w00t
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Hodokie Seek
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Posted - 2003.09.26 17:02:00 -
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I fail to understand why blockading is getting mixed it up with camping? They aren't pitching tents and sitting around a camp fire? Thier just not allowing you to pass with out a fight or toll ,AND, its not just up to the NPC's to keep the trade lines open in Eve, it is also up to the players
The lag though encountered when warping into such a situation does suck.
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[07:11:41] Hodokie Seek > k, will probably go in my Tristan.
[07:12:18] xxxx > tristan? is it a hazardous area?
[07:12:27] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:34] xxxx > nuts
[07:12:37] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:52] xxxx > wouldn't be so bad, but i'd hate to lose my implants
[07:13:06] xxxx > i'll go in my omen
/emote Hodokie Seek <---- No implants and no brains.
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Castagan
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Posted - 2003.09.26 17:43:00 -
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I fail to understand why blockading is getting mixed it up with camping? They aren't pitching tents and sitting around a camp fire? Thier just not allowing you to pass with out a fight or toll ,AND, its not just up to the NPC's to keep the trade lines open in Eve, it is also up to the players
The lag though encountered when warping into such a situation does suck.
You do have an excellent point Hodokie. Unfortunately, it is camping. Player Killer camping to be precise. There is no negotiating, they sit and wait and start shooting when anyone shows up. Although, once I was asked to disclose my cargo, or be destroyed. I told them, even offered to jettison it. But I was killed anyway. AND in an INDY.
But like Serge said "Sh*t happens"
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2003.09.26 18:31:00 -
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CCP definitely needs to change the fact that people always jump into the same location. I wouldn't be opposed to it except that becuase of the time it takes to load the system you will most likely be dead before you can do anything. I don't blame the pirates for taking advantage of this game flaw, but CCP needs to do something about it ASAP because under certain conditions there is absolutely nothing you can do. People complained a lot about gate campers in the past, but as far as lag is concerned, camping the jump in location is much worse.
It is also very lame that the Police will sit at the jump in point. This makes it so that players with negative security ratings cannot get through Empire space even with a MWD. It's fine if they make it impossible for neg sec players to do anything in empire space, but if your moving fast, you should atleast be able to fly through.
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djrouz
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Posted - 2003.09.26 19:52:00 -
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warping into the same location makes the game more fun. ccp better not remove it.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2003.09.27 02:27:00 -
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We have an Uh Oh Over
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Booky
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Posted - 2003.09.27 03:26:00 -
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Don't worry guys and gals it will all be fixed soon. The gate to gate jumping will most likely make the next major patch, at least thats what I understood from the CSM log, so no more hitting at jump in points.
Im not saying people are wrong to do it, heck if I was a pirate I would do it myself, but the fact remains that CCP never intended it to happen. The jump in locations has never worked the way they have wanted.
The way CCP wants it, always has wanted this just couldn't do it for some reason, is to jump in at the gate leading back to where you jumped from. Hence the term, gate to gate jumping.
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Moringar
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Posted - 2003.09.27 04:46:00 -
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i dont know about the rest of you but i am getting alittle tired of paying to beta test a game...with all the CCP didnt intend for this to happen or CCP still does not have it the way they wanted. So something better happen quick or eve in my books will be a waste of cash.
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mk ultra
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Posted - 2003.09.27 08:23:00 -
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The problem isnt the camping, its the lagging of jump in points, by the time your screen has loaded, u are sitting in a pod, lets see how good your stabiliser is then my friend.
Well then get a cable connection :) i never experienced any lag anywhere unless my cable company has problems game creator or pirate dont have to care if your internet connection sux . People are always blaming the game when there is lag when they are the one to blame .
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Familiar
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Posted - 2003.09.27 08:54:00 -
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First thing you all might not be thinking about. Is that if you make the jump in random, people that use bookmarks at gates for speedy travel will be screwed. I think this is a large number of people since pirates hate the tactic so much. So it might help in empire space but will ruin your day in 0.0 space. And lastly I actually feel sorry for pvpers because they had to resort to such a lame tactic. Not only does it suck for the person they kill but for them as well. You cant tell me its fun to kill someone that cant even see you much less fight back. Well maybe it would be fun the first few times but not if you play pvper for the challenge.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:02:00 -
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Oooooooh how wrong you are! It's not about PVP for them, it's about killing. Why else would they attack frigates and indys with battleships? Lame, camping, exploiting killers, that is what they are. And every time as some of them start talking about about roleplaying it makes me sick.
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Hodokie Seek
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Posted - 2003.09.27 17:09:00 -
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Oooooooh how wrong you are! It's not about PVP for them, it's about killing. Why else would they attack frigates and indys with battleships? Lame, camping, exploiting killers, that is what they are. And every time as some of them start talking about about roleplaying it makes me sick.
MMORPG = Massive Multiplayer Online ROLE PLAYING Game
I dislike these gate blockers as well, I mean being shot in a shuttle by a cruiser for sport is not fun, BUT, it is a factor in the game. Uber Bad Guys/Gals exist, there for, Uber Good Guys/Gals need to show up to protect the law obiding citizens of Eve, and if you don't like the Role Playing, go play BF1942.
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[07:11:41] Hodokie Seek > k, will probably go in my Tristan.
[07:12:18] xxxx > tristan? is it a hazardous area?
[07:12:27] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:34] xxxx > nuts
[07:12:37] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:52] xxxx > wouldn't be so bad, but i'd hate to lose my implants
[07:13:06] xxxx > i'll go in my omen
/emote Hodokie Seek <---- No implants and no brains.
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SavX
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Posted - 2003.09.27 20:51:00 -
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Jumping into systems at the same point was the most stupid thing to have been added to this game yet.
It needs to be sorted out as soon as possible.
Look, FFS, I'm not a pirate but theres going to be none left. All gates got sentries, people jumping into different locations. How the hell you going to camp?!
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SavX
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Posted - 2003.09.27 20:53:00 -
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Oooooooh how wrong you are! It's not about PVP for them, it's about killing. Why else would they attack frigates and indys with battleships? Lame, camping, exploiting killers, that is what they are. And every time as some of them start talking about about roleplaying it makes me sick.
Unless you can prove they are seriouly exploiting, STFU. PVP is part of the game, killing the innocent is just something that happens. Deal with it.
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Hodokie Seek
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Posted - 2003.09.27 20:59:00 -
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Oooooooh how wrong you are! It's not about PVP for them, it's about killing. Why else would they attack frigates and indys with battleships? Lame, camping, exploiting killers, that is what they are. And every time as some of them start talking about about roleplaying it makes me sick.
Unless you can prove they are seriouly exploiting, STFU. PVP is part of the game, killing the innocent is just something that happens. Deal with it.
 WOOT!
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[07:11:41] Hodokie Seek > k, will probably go in my Tristan.
[07:12:18] xxxx > tristan? is it a hazardous area?
[07:12:27] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:34] xxxx > nuts
[07:12:37] Hodokie Seek > Yep
[07:12:52] xxxx > wouldn't be so bad, but i'd hate to lose my implants
[07:13:06] xxxx > i'll go in my omen
/emote Hodokie Seek <---- No implants and no brains.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.09.27 21:12:00 -
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STFU? Why? Becouse I don't think that PVP is killing unarmed traders? If that is PVP for you then you have a serious problem mate. You pirates have found about 1000 lame excuses for your urge to kill weaker. And you are chicken too. I just passed trough a system where two pirates in BS fled from few cruisers and one BS. PVP? Chicken lame lazy yellow killer campers.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.27 21:27:00 -
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STFU? Why? Becouse I don't think that PVP is killing unarmed traders? If that is PVP for you then you have a serious problem mate. You pirates have found about 1000 lame excuses for your urge to kill weaker. And you are chicken too. I just passed trough a system where two pirates in BS fled from few cruisers and one BS. PVP? Chicken lame lazy yellow killer campers.
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Rising Sin
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Posted - 2003.09.27 22:09:00 -
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Well then get a cable connection :) i never experienced any lag anywhere unless my cable company has problems game creator or pirate dont have to care if your internet connection sux . People are always blaming the game when there is lag when they are the one to blame .
I've seen first-hand from both sides what kind of lag can be created when 20 players wait at a jumpin point, all with drones out - and I have cable too.
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Ivanova DeSade
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Posted - 2003.09.28 11:29:00 -
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STFU? Why? Becouse I don't think that PVP is killing unarmed traders? If that is PVP for you then you have a serious problem mate. You pirates have found about 1000 lame excuses for your urge to kill weaker. And you are chicken too. I just passed trough a system where two pirates in BS fled from few cruisers and one BS. PVP? Chicken lame lazy yellow killer campers.
Quite honestly if you've ever read/watched any type of science fiction which includes "space pirates", you'll see that they don't go out engaging in honorable battles with fleets of anti-pirate forces, they attack unarmed traders
Sure, it's not pvp persay, but it is pirating.
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Barad Terim
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Posted - 2003.09.28 11:52:00 -
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In the place of pirates I wouldn't worryabout not being able to blockade gates for loot or extorting money. There will be much more to do for them when mining and production platforms come out, that will be placed in or in the close vincinity of belts. With those they will have the possibility to good pvp-fights and intertesting loot too. Sure there will be sentries but those are player owned, can be destroyed and don't respawn. I think we will see a lot more group battles and interesting strategies with these elements.
So everybody chill out. Battles might become a bit more interesting :)
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Grey Matter
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Posted - 2003.09.28 13:29:00 -
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Well said Ivano
this is just another typical Carebear thread about PvP.
Pirates do not go around looking to kill ppl, they will take the easy quick buck over hours of working, what ppl need to do, is actualy form an active PKK corp and actually shut us down, but then that actually takes abit of thinking.
Grey Matter
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.28 13:35:00 -
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The problem isnt the camping, its the lagging of jump in points, by the time your screen has loaded, u are sitting in a pod, lets see how good your stabiliser is then my friend.
Well then get a cable connection :) i never experienced any lag anywhere unless my cable company has problems game creator or pirate dont have to care if your internet connection sux . People are always blaming the game when there is lag when they are the one to blame .
no my friend, dont we all play the game on the same type of connection .
Doesnt matter if you have 8mb adsl, you will still get lagged, like the peson using a 56k modem..
This works, because like most FPS games that are played online, its usually the person with the fastest connection that wins.
This way, players dont have an advantage because of how quick their connection is.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 29/09/2003 18:00:55
Didn't matter what connection you had in Asheron's Call. The server side connection was ALWAYS 28.8kb. yep thats right! 28.8kb the lag came from machine or graphics on client side although there was a hack or exploit that PKers used for a while that caused major bandwidth suck in the area that they ran in. most server side connections are low in MMORPGs its not like first person shooters
The only reason you would want a dedicated connection like cable or dsl is to avoid disconnects like you get with phone Modems.
blah blah blah I'll shut up now
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.09.29 19:03:00 -
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Makin easy buck? And how much do you get from podding a frigate pilot? 20k? 21k? That's just lame excuse to let your inner self surface. Killing the weak that have nothing is plain stupid and you support it. Hmmm... Think about it.
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Silver Striker
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Posted - 2003.09.29 19:45:00 -
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Why not just fix it so that ships don't appear until the client has loaded the system. Or better yet give the 5 sec of invulnerability you get everywhere else, Undocking, warping, etc.
Can you imagine how pointless this game would be if we didn't get that 5 sec invulnerability when we dropped out of warp/undocked? All kills would be lag kills, Why not give this to ships arriving at jump in points.
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Serina Verity
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Posted - 2003.09.29 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Serina Verity on 29/09/2003 20:54:52
Ok gate campers, look at it this way.
I have now been stuck in the same system for 24 hours now, becuase both gates are camped. Boring.
I probably would pay a toll, but that option hasnt't been offered. And I am not going to warp to a camped gate carrying 1.5m of cargo, because, lets face it most of the 'pirates' in this game cannot be trusted. (Since many of them are actually PKers wearing a pirate badge.)
Carebear? No, I'd take you on in a Kestrel. I'd lose, but so what? An indy, however, is just not worthwhile.
Game spoiler? You bet.
*Serina puts on fireproof overalls*
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.09.29 21:01:00 -
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The reason people are camping jump-in spots in <0.5 space now, is that it's just about the last place to have a chance of catching someone.
0.0 space is getting emptier and emptier, and people are to concious about pirate threats in 0.0 now to surprise them. Result: Hardly any people let themselves be caught.
So we went to higher sec space. However, there are now sentries at all gates in 0.1 space and higher, so we can't camp the gates anymore. Result: Jump-in spot camping.
If you make that impossible, pirating is as good as dead. (as opposed to it being in a coma now). And yes, I'm saying pirating, because terrorism is always possible in one form or another.
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iconoclast
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Posted - 2003.09.29 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: iconoclast on 30/09/2003 00:56:07
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The way CCP wants it, always has wanted this just couldn't do it for some reason, is to jump in at the gate leading back to where you jumped from. Hence the term, gate to gate jumping.
bummer they want to implement this... i like how curently in the game, often your warp in point is on the doorstep of teh station you last dockd at in that sol. makes trading commods much easier and stations make good "safe" zones.
where as gates should most definitely not be safe.
thus, you should jump into a safe zone (last docked station if exists else random - maybe a concord planetary orbital weapons platform if no stations are in the sol), and THEN have to make your way from there into the other "unsafe" parts of a sol. the roids, system gates, ncp spawing grounds, or outside of station gun range to hit convoys. especially if you are not going to be able to jump cloaked... which i'm guessing is the case ; p
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.09.29 23:44:00 -
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Grey matter:
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what ppl need to do, is actualy form an active PKK corp and actually shut us down, but then that actually takes abit of thinking.
Its useless..... If you think about it a little harder pirates do not want to engage in real PVP, or they would stand thier ground when we show up. They run like little schoolgirls and log off. We can run you off over and over but unless you make a horrible mistake we can't get you. EVE favors the runner. As for the camping of jump in points, there is nothing that an anti PK force can do about that. No one can break one of those effectively. You just have to throw enough ships in and run them off. You just have to want to accept the casualties it will cause.
I have yet to meet a pirate that held his ground when our forces came to break a blockade. Even if the forces were even they still run. We have broken blockades of multiple battleships with a few cruisers. They are afraid of real combat.
The they and other pirate references are pointed to those that know who they are. For the rest of you pirates that say you have balls no replies are needed. I'm sure there might be some out there that would but I haven't seen them yet.
SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts.
For more info click below
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=68313 |
Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.09.30 00:24:00 -
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Haven't we killed this over the past few months? This general topic of discussion has been podded and it's corpse used as ammo for a biomass cannon...
Posting for Numbnutz |
Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.09.30 01:09:00 -
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Edited by: Indigo Seqi on 30/09/2003 01:13:04
Morons, a pirate will never engage in fair combat unless they feel like butting some heads.
PIRATES LOOK FOR THE WEAKEST TARGET THAT GIVES THE BIGGEST REWARD. HUNTING PARTIES ARE USUALLY NOT WEAK AND YOU RUN THE RISK OF LOSING YOUR SHIP. PIRATES ARE NOT AFRAID OF REAL COMBAT, ITS SIMPLY BAD FOR BUSINESS.
Thank you.
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s0cks
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Posted - 2003.09.30 01:18:00 -
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Jeez... what a load of crap in this thread.
Camping jump-in points happens, get over it. Fit 2 or more warp core stabs, and a MWD, and you got no trouble. And YES a ship is invunrable for 5 or so seconds just like after you warp or undock. Most people with a speedy computer (to load up the gfx) and with AP engaged easily get away.
Those who warp in without autopilot engaged, and without protection will die. And no, you don't get that much lag that you enter the system in a pod. Jump in points are still random (within that section of space). People have to move to get in range, etc... Cruisers don't go down that quickly at all, same with stronger indys, and especially wen its all just frigates 
How do I know all this? Well... i'm sure you can work that one out
Peace and love.
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Quana Parker
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Posted - 2003.09.30 04:25:00 -
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Why not just fix it so that ships don't appear until the client has loaded the system. Or better yet give the 5 sec of invulnerability you get everywhere else, Undocking, warping, etc.
Can you imagine how pointless this game would be if we didn't get that 5 sec invulnerability when we dropped out of warp/undocked? All kills would be lag kills, Why not give this to ships arriving at jump in points.
Actually they are looking to not display the ship in the field until the client fully loads.
This is a good thing.
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iconoclast
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Posted - 2003.09.30 05:48:00 -
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Peace and love.
split personality?
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Znaei
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Posted - 2003.09.30 06:59:00 -
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Yeah I just passed through Aurohunen (spelling). And to my surprise there where 4 SI camping a gate with no sentry guns (at least I didnt see any on my 9km/s speed). I thought all gates in Empire space had sentrys now, am I wrong?
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lozbozmazadoz
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Posted - 2003.09.30 10:17:00 -
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yeah
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Marcus Malos
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Posted - 2003.09.30 13:09:00 -
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The only reason pirates camp jump in points is because thanks to all the whiners all empire gates got sentry guns, the insta jump bookmarks people made weren't nerfed as was promised.
So if I pirate can't camp a gate in Empire space they have to do it in 0.0 but thats going to be exceptionally boring in most cases due to the large ammount of carebears who don't go out into 0.0 atm.
Several things should be done to fix the situation.
1. Fix the damm baby roid bug, if you can actually mine the better minerals in 0.0 people will go out there again, who wants to mine scordite in 0.0?
2. Return to old method of NPC spawning or adapt existing spawning so pirates cant spawn within 20km of a player. My corp was hunting in 0.0 with an Indy 90km away from us and away from belt and 3x40k pirates spawned within 10km of her. NPC pirates should have been left alone, guess this is another idea from guy who had EVEMAIL changed.
3. If theres going to be gate to gate jumping then we won't need sentry guns on 0.4 or below systems or any form of PVP in empire space will be impossible except in roid belts.
4. Nerf all insta jump/mine/dock bookmarks as they are unrealistic and just a flaw in the game code.
5. Nerf the Police so that you have a chance which at the moment most people don't unless they have a MWD, Police response should be based on the level of the threat NOT just send in 3 battleships and a bunch of cruisers to attack a moa who's just target jammed someone.
I am not a pirate, I've lost ships to them and 1 clone before but rather than whining about it I just went and got a lot of mates and took them on but constant changes have made piracy harder also effected people hunting the pirates or even ore stealers.
EVE needs a little tension but a minority don't still they whine the loudest and its thanks to THEM that we now have pirates who camp entry points.
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Serina Verity
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Posted - 2003.09.30 15:49:00 -
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OK gate campers, just a few words.
After having been trapped in system P3EN for 36 hours (yup, thatÆs right, one and a half days!) I thought that I would just say a few words.
Personally, I donÆt have a great deal against gate camping, if done properly. It is a pain in the a*se, nothing more, and it can cost a little bit of money. However, given that making such trips can be profitable, IÆm willing to share a little bit of my income for safe passage.
However, it isnÆt like that really, is it? I was hiding in said system last night, logged on a few times to see if the Obe gate was clear, and it was camped, as usual. I was hiding in the space between planets, so I wasnÆt too worried about being found by accident. As I made the decision that I would pay to go through, I offered money.
Basically, the only response that I could rely on was that to try and pass through the gate would be death. I offered 250k toll, and was told it æwasnÆt much for 5 piratesÆ.
Oh dear.
Now, putting this in perspective, I am expected to warp to a camped gate and make a run for it (with lag issues thrown in for good measure) whilst being shot at. A badger can take punishment, but not as much as I would expect to see at a gate. Two words û Sod That!
So, I log out in system, log in again early the next morning and escape when no-one else is in system. Easy.
So I make my escape (patience is a virtue) and the campers get diddly squat (as opposed to 50k each) apart from a short chat. Who wins?
Plus, I would not trust said campers now at all with a fee. It was offered once, it wonÆt be offered again.
DonÆt get me wrong, I am ægameÆ for a little bit of PvP, but not on those terms.
What is the overall effect? First, who is going to go out into 0.0 space knowing that you will go home to a shiny new clone? No-one with an ounce of sense, that is for certain. (Or those with a death wish, of course!) Second, where is the campers income stream? Camping a gate, if done properly, could be profitable. Putting everyone off of going out into 0.0 space kind of destroys any income potential, donÆt you think?
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Leitari
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Posted - 2003.10.01 05:43:00 -
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hell yeah
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Krauss
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Posted - 2003.10.01 07:29:00 -
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Gosh, you shot me waa waaa waaa. Gate camping isnt fair, shooting me isnt fair. There are games you can play where pvp is not available. This is not one of them. Pirates have to gate camp, we fight each other and anyone who will have a go at it. Traffic is where the pirates wait. Think any action would take place at plant X moon 3.
I am a pirate and will be waiting to kill anyone I can in the traffic lanes. Including those Space Invaders who killed my alt earlier tonight.
There are ways to get past a gate camp. And they do not all include a bookmark. A little skill will go a long way with the right equipment.
And to the Space Invaders. I dont know about the sentry gun issue at that gate, congrats on finding a great spot. Nice Job. Your gonna Pay!!!!
Pod Ya Later
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.10.01 08:33:00 -
[48]
heh, you should be more careful where you fly your alt, sir. You know the rules 
As for all the people moaning - shut up.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.01 09:40:00 -
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Makin easy buck? And how much do you get from podding a frigate pilot? 20k? 21k? That's just lame excuse to let your inner self surface. Killing the weak that have nothing is plain stupid and you support it. Hmmm... Think about it.
Actually it is fun. May I please pod you somewhere and you can feel free to flame me personally in forums and write how lame I am and such? Come to think of it, I could pod you many times over, oh, and please do show up in a shuttle or a bestower, makes me even more lame...
sigh
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.01 10:46:00 -
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Hey Luc boy! You are lame. Lame. Lame. Happy now? And we can meet, yes. I'll be in my indy and you can have your BS, ok? But I'll have about 20 frigs escorting my badger II and all you'll do is run, like you pirates always do when you encounter more then one target. Campers you are, not fighters. Chicken, not men.
The differnce between you and me is that I'm a trader, miner, agent, fighter, manufacturer, explorer, flamer... And you are only a lame camper. So please keep grilling your steaks while I lead my life in the vast EVE universe.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.01 10:49:00 -
[51]
yea well you gotta get a life somewhere I guess
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.10.01 11:10:00 -
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Hey Luc boy! You are lame. Lame. Lame. Happy now? And we can meet, yes. I'll be in my indy and you can have your BS, ok? But I'll have about 20 frigs escorting my badger II and all you'll do is run, like you pirates always do when you encounter more then one target. Campers you are, not fighters. Chicken, not men.
The differnce between you and me is that I'm a trader, miner, agent, fighter, manufacturer, explorer, flamer... And you are only a lame camper. So please keep grilling your steaks while I lead my life in the vast EVE universe.
you're also a whiny homo, with no idea about how to play. You claim to be a fighter, but it is painfully obvious that you don't understand the first thing about Eve combat.
Even some of the wiener corps who have wars against us have better fighting/tactical knowledge than you, and they are laughably hopeless (for the most part, there are a couple of good enemies).
Also, anyone who claims to be *all* those things, is sure to be pitifully bad at all of them.
Try being just one or two things, you might be more successful. Also, don't have 'forum poster' as a main role. Cos you sorta suck at it.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.01 12:02:00 -
[53]
'yea well you gotta get a life somewhere I guess'
Hehe, unlike you at least I have one.
And as for the drunken-my-sister: So you have read few of my posts and you judge my tactics? And you say that my corp sucks? Do you know how many people you have offended by saying that? Are you blond, 16 years old and your name is Peggy-Sue?!?
And my posts suck only to a sucker, so if you recognize yourself somewhere it's not my fault.
Burn, baby, burn!!!
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.01 12:13:00 -
[54]
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'yea well you gotta get a life somewhere I guess'
Hehe, unlike you at least I have one.
hey, you hurt my feelings there... oh and I didn't know we knew each other in real life. Or was it just a lame impotent reply from your side?
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Othnark
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Posted - 2003.10.01 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Othnark on 01/10/2003 12:16:00
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'yea well you gotta get a life somewhere I guess'
Hehe, unlike you at least I have one.
Wow! Zing, burn, smash.... what a comeback. I dont think I heard that since the 6th grade.
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And as for the drunken-my-sister: So you have read few of my posts and you judge my tactics? And you say that my corp sucks? Do you know how many people you have offended by saying that? Are you blond, 16 years old and your name is Peggy-Sue?!?
WOW! It just keeps on getting more and more clever. Do you all see the drunkenmaster - drunken-my-sister play on words? Its brilliant. Plus when you add in the fact that we have no idea how many people DM insulted that adds mystery and fear.
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And my posts suck only to a sucker, so if you recognize yourself somewhere it's not my fault.
It took me 3 reread attempts to understand the sheer wit in this sentence... his posts only suck if suckers are reading them...
Could someone give Fausto a Pullitzer please?
-Othnark
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.10.01 12:45:00 -
[56]
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And as for the drunken-my-sister: So you have read few of my posts and you judge my tactics? And you say that my corp sucks? Do you know how many people you have offended by saying that? Are you blond, 16 years old and your name is Peggy-Sue?!?
I do not judge your tactics, as I know you don't have any.
I never mentioned your corp, as I didn't know you were in one. I'd hope for their sake they are more intelligent than you. If you can find the bit where I mentioned your corp, feel free to post it..
As for how many people I offended... I'd say one, you. As I have already said, I didn't even know you were in a corp, I don't know what corp you're in, or who you are in a corp with. Also, I don't care. Because this is not about them (unless they are all your alts). It's about you and your ignorance.
As for making fun of peoples names... That's pretty weak. Although not as weak as 'drunken-my-sister'. I've been flamed before, but never at such a kindergarten level. There are so many better ways of defacing my name, I don't know where to start.
Oh, and insinuating that I'm a teenage girl? That's very mature of you.
Your mother would be proud, I'm sure.
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Jexter
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Posted - 2003.10.01 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jexter on 01/10/2003 14:49:38
To all those who complain about pirates shooting down frigates and shuttles and who call them griefers and PKers for doing that:
The last Shuttle that we shot down had a total of 73 (seventy-three) Blueprints in his cargo hold.
Regards
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.01 13:40:00 -
[58]
Uuuuuhhhh, nice. First you insult me and then when I strike back you are offended and start complaining about my language?!? Well I guess it corresponds to your PVP tactics - RUN LIKE A GIRLS AS SOON AS SOMEONE FIRES BACK!!! "Oh, a guy with cable connection, no lag, danger, danger... run for your life and leave the grill burning at the camping site!!!"
Smack me and I'll kick you.
(Will they ever notice that they have just been mindpodded)
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.01 13:42:00 -
[59]
And just before you start backing out on the claim that you haven't isulted me let me remind you: "whining homo" with "no life then EVE". Remember? So take my words standing up, BLONDIE!!!
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.01 13:47:00 -
[60]
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Hey Luc boy! You are lame. Lame. Lame. Happy now? And we can meet, yes. I'll be in my indy and you can have your BS, ok? But I'll have about 20 frigs escorting my badger II and all you'll do is run, like you pirates always do when you encounter more then one target. Campers you are, not fighters. Chicken, not men.
The differnce between you and me is that I'm a trader, miner, agent, fighter, manufacturer, explorer, flamer... And you are only a lame camper. So please keep grilling your steaks while I lead my life in the vast EVE universe.
lame lame lame, doesn't that count as flaming mr mindpodder?
This is not a hijack
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.01 14:56:00 -
[61]
More like:
Profession: alice in wonderland
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.01 15:20:00 -
[62]
Fausto, you need to relax, brother. This is just a game, we're just trying to make a living like everyone else.
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.01 15:28:00 -
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Alice? I like that, and you can be the rabbit and do what you do best, RUN!!!
Lianhaun: Yup, it is flamnig, so that makes me a flamer. It helps when mindpodding big bad-arse (blond & bunny) pirates. And I like every second of this pointless discussion since every time when some of the 'bad boys' doesn't agree with me without any arguments he attacks me personaly and opens up a completely new world of possibilities for me I reaaaaaaaaaalllly enjoy this part of the game people so keep it comming.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.01 16:39:00 -
[64]
Hey looky my agent kinda knows you =)
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.10.01 17:53:00 -
[65]
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And just before you start backing out on the claim that you haven't isulted me let me remind you: "whining homo" with "no life then EVE". Remember? So take my words standing up, BLONDIE!!!
When did I say you have 'no life than Eve'?
When?
At least read through the remains of your reputation before flinging more crap.
I *did* call you a whining homo, though. Because I think you are.
Unlike yourself, insults rarely bother me, I've had far more impressive attempts by the teenagers that play UT. And most of them can't actually compose a sentence in real English.
come back when you grow up.
Oh, and if you think accusing me of having blonde hair is going to make me cry, then you're more deluded than I thought.
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iconoclast
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Posted - 2003.10.01 19:19:00 -
[66]
these threads are all kinda liek a tennis match...
...if you put 40 people in the court and gave them all bazookas to shoot the tennis balls out of at towards each others headz.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.01 21:37:00 -
[67]
Hehe, you think you are the only one to post here? You think I read the forums for your sake? So my english is not perfect and I'm lesser species then you right away? What are you, a ****? Do you want me to post in german? French? Russian? Oh sorry, those are lesser languages right? If you can't speak proper english then you are not worth a penny, right?
Personal isult is one thing but discrimination of that kind is something else. I really don't want to read any of your posts again, please don't bother to make any.
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2003.10.09 06:21:00 -
[68]
if you're happy and you know it clap your hands *clap clap*
if you're happy and you know it clap your hands *clap clap*
if you're happy and you know it and you really want to show it if you're happy and you know it clap your hands
*clap clap*
such a tense atmosphere in here, ooooo
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McWatt
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Posted - 2003.10.09 07:12:00 -
[69]
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Hey Luc boy! You are lame. Lame. Lame. Happy now? And we can meet, yes. I'll be in my indy and you can have your BS, ok? But I'll have about 20 frigs escorting my badger II and all you'll do is run, like you pirates always do when you encounter more then one target. Campers you are, not fighters. Chicken, not men.
The differnce between you and me is that I'm a trader, miner, agent, fighter, manufacturer, explorer, flamer... And you are only a lame camper. So please keep grilling your steaks while I lead my life in the vast EVE universe.
fausto, you re trying to take WD s place in my heart, are you?
haven t seen so much **** posted for some time.
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Lex Luger
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Posted - 2003.10.09 07:27:00 -
[70]
I like strawberry ice-cream.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.10.09 08:46:00 -
[71]
I wonder if you people will ever realise why I make such posts. If any of you have done his homework you would have known the answer. Or is your brain attached to your ships capacitor while you activate all your MWDs?
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.09 09:18:00 -
[72]
OMG TEH FUNNIEH!!!
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Khaider Sebheri
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Posted - 2003.10.09 21:59:00 -
[73]
A tip for noncombat classes: HIRE WINGMEN!
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2003.10.10 00:35:00 -
[74]
it is my beleaf that CCP did not mean to have massive amounts of PvP in Eve. I beleave that it was ment for corps to do "hostile" takeovers in the most hostile way possible. I think on the cover "Pirate" was ment to go after all those merchant fleets you see running around. Not only is it a challange to get them all before cops respond. But you can make a killing off of some of the cargo. And being a PVP player does not mean sitting at a jump point, prove your the biggest badest jerk in the galaxy, Gramps did us in two ruptures and a thorax all by his self. Good job Gramps. whish I could remember your name  You proved that not all "Pirates" are jerks you and I talked afterward with none of the standard taunts and rants that some of the others in you proffison tend to do.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2003.10.10 01:24:00 -
[75]
firstly there is no challenge to attacking NPC convoys so how anyone could have fun gathering dropped space cows is beyond me, in other words, yawn yawn yawn. Secondly, it's beginning to get a little thin this *****ing about jump in camping. I hunt out people for a fair 'n' square PvP environment along with others in corp and all we are met with is big bad battleships, cruisers....etc running away as fast as they can! you lot would die in a fair fight and you would (and do) die as a result of camping. Either way, YOU DIE! still, it's easier to win the flaming battles in here than using you little pastel noggins to fight back. I don't blame you for being big scaredy's though
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.10.10 09:44:00 -
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I wonder if you people will ever realise why I make such posts.
Because you're an attention ***** that loves looking at his own avatar in between bouts of crying, and emailing your pre-school friends to see if they can come up with any cool new insults for you to use?
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