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Havelcek
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Posted - 2006.06.14 13:15:00 -
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Oh Shamis I don't know if this is going to work...your investors don't include the people who can get CCP's attention. This will probably be one of the 99.999999% of the scams in EVE that doesn't get any notice.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2006.06.14 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Havelcek Oh Shamis I don't know if this is going to work...your investors don't include the people who can get CCP's attention.
But he claims the opposite: that they hate him though.
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Kussoth
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Posted - 2006.06.14 14:03:00 -
[63]
I would like one share
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.06.14 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
if you have been producing proper financial reports from now until the next 3 months, I will definitely invest in your business venture.
Once I get my time machine.
But for now All I can tell you is that I will start posting financial reports every 2 weeks, once there are publicly held shares.
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Keopa
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Posted - 2006.06.14 14:13:00 -
[65]
I'll buy 2 shares.
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Nahia Senne
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Posted - 2006.06.14 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Havelcek Oh Shamis I don't know if this is going to work...your investors don't include the people who can get CCP's attention. This will probably be one of the 99.999999% of the scams in EVE that doesn't get any notice.
are you saying that nobody can produce a whine of magnitude we have seen in the last few days? i beg to differ.
one share pls Shamis. i get isk either way and with some luck i might also get a chance to whine on forums.
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.06.14 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Nira Li on 14/06/2006 14:45:52
Originally by: stingy CEO Edited by: stingy CEO on 14/06/2006 09:06:08
you stupid fracking morons.
How exactly is this little 'statement' going to help ?
Did you retards ever stop to think that the people that got re- imbursed did in most cases not even ASK for that, try training reading skill you ****. What the formu ho's have been trying to do in the last 48 hrs is to make CCP implement new elements into the game. There was a great discussio n going on and in comes the crowd and now wxe have pGge after page of 'ZOMGREFUNDENDOFEVE' and all that garbage.
Instead of doing something productive , I have to come read this slime, waste of bandwith !
Leave the thread troll
Also I'm interested in getting some shares will see later if I'll buy a few
You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
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Cvuos
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Posted - 2006.06.14 14:49:00 -
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Sign me up for 1 share good Snigg Sir.
I would also like an option for 1 more share pr corporation that partakes in a month-long station camp of Jenny Spitfire - but only if it can be confirmed that the character has even undocked.
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Manion Taleroth
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Posted - 2006.06.14 15:00:00 -
[69]
Put me down for a share.
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B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2006.06.14 15:18:00 -
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good luck ---
new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. *Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11
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Kiriz Zule
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Posted - 2006.06.14 15:36:00 -
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For the simple investment of 1 Claw, I was able to pull in 120 million!!! That is 600% profit!
With a mothership, I could see returns of 1000% or better (of course after share holders dividends).
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But wait, theres more.... Not only will you make money, but you will also help in development of Sniggwaffe, a corp dedicated to helping some of the newer members of the EVE Community kill people, not 1, not 2, but sometimes as much as 3 years older than them! Not only will you profit, but you can also call this a charitable donation!!!!
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2006.06.14 16:56:00 -
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Some of you may think Shamis is joking but this is indeed a genuine IPO
He has turned into quite a carebear as of late I am proud to be a part of the first pirate corperation to go public
Ill take 10 shares please Want to be a pirate? Join Sniggwaffe |
Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:16:00 -
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Most of the praise seems to be from corp members.
I'm not against this if this is a genuine IPO with no scam intentions, but I don't like the tone of the thread adopted.
Firstly, you are saying that 'don't worry, if I scam you, CCP will reimburse you'. Well, you don't know that. This was a one off case, and there has been no official word from CCP. But what matters more is that you're already acting as if you'll scam but that it doesn't matter.
Secondly, I don't know who you are, or your reputation, be it good or bad. I know what I see.
And I see that you have posted a very primitive and short business plan with no precise figures, and that you probably spent at most 30 minutes coming up with and writing down. I know that you have been spamming the forums advertising your IPO, which is bad, as good IPOs don't need much publicity. I know that your numbers are pretty wild.
What happens if your mothership is blown up?
What if the political situation in eve changes so radically your plan fails, for example the land you were previously using or were planning to use was taken over by hostile forces that overwhelm you 10:1?
Crazy you might say? No, just a few possible eventualities that you have no way of securing against, or at least haven't mentioned any. And then the prints: have you had any experience in manufacturing? What blueprints are you aiming for? Tech II? Tech I? You haven't even said.
Also, a lot of the talk here praising your IPO has been blind and wild praise, as if you paid them or they are your friends, or maybe alts. Something to improve perhaps? My Blog with freighter services/preliminary IPO business plan
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Xandalex
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:20:00 -
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Sounds interesting. I'll take 10.
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Crackfarmer
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:22:00 -
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I am very interested in this 100% risk-free venture and would like to reserve 2 shares, safe in the knowledge that CCP will reimburse me if this turns out to be a scam.
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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: *****farmer I am very interested in this 100% risk-free venture and would like to reserve 2 shares, safe in the knowledge that CCP will reimburse me if this turns out to be a scam.
I'll repeat again. You may or may not be reimbursed. This is at the GMs discretion, and seeing all the problems that occured when they reimbursed (partially!) the previous SVE scam, this may not happen again. My Blog with freighter services/preliminary IPO business plan
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Salazar N'terre
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:30:00 -
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Quote: *Clarification: Scams involving characters transfers and ETC's are not allowed and will have repercussions in game. Other scams MAY have in game repercussions, at the GMs discretion.
where do you guys get 100% from a "May" have in game repercussions. at discretion sure doesnt sound like you will get back your money, its like flipping a coind and hoping for heads.
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:30:00 -
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This IPO seems to be a standard buy-BPO-and-produce case, nothing wrong with that, but the follow-up IPO does raise a few questions. This thread isn't about that IPO but your own risk assesment concerning that IPO does relate to the chances of succes of the first one. And from what I can see is that the 2nd IPO is based on quite a few variables and ifs. And that makes me put a few questionmarks at your qualifications to run even a casual IPO.
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Crackfarmer
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: *****farmer on 14/06/2006 17:32:39
Originally by: Exelsior I'll repeat again. You may or may not be reimbursed. This is at the GMs discretion, and seeing all the problems that occured when they reimbursed (partially!) the previous SVE scam, this may not happen again.
Why hesitate? Carpe Diem! Our money is insured by CCP. You've seen it yourself. I mean, why would the GMs treat some people differently? Obviously this is their new policy.
I think you should buy five shares because imagine the returns! Lucky us this is completely free of risk.
edit: I assume the above quote is incorrect because it would make no sense to reimburse big-name people and not the little ones. I hardly think CCP hate us that much.
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Ricdic
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Exelsior Most of the praise seems to be from corp members.
I'm not against this if this is a genuine IPO with no scam intentions, but I don't like the tone of the thread adopted.
Firstly, you are saying that 'don't worry, if I scam you, CCP will reimburse you'. Well, you don't know that. This was a one off case, and there has been no official word from CCP. But what matters more is that you're already acting as if you'll scam but that it doesn't matter.
Secondly, I don't know who you are, or your reputation, be it good or bad. I know what I see.
And I see that you have posted a very primitive and short business plan with no precise figures, and that you probably spent at most 30 minutes coming up with and writing down. I know that you have been spamming the forums advertising your IPO, which is bad, as good IPOs don't need much publicity. I know that your numbers are pretty wild.
What happens if your mothership is blown up?
What if the political situation in eve changes so radically your plan fails, for example the land you were previously using or were planning to use was taken over by hostile forces that overwhelm you 10:1?
Crazy you might say? No, just a few possible eventualities that you have no way of securing against, or at least haven't mentioned any. And then the prints: have you had any experience in manufacturing? What blueprints are you aiming for? Tech II? Tech I? You haven't even said.
Also, a lot of the talk here praising your IPO has been blind and wild praise, as if you paid them or they are your friends, or maybe alts. Something to improve perhaps?
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Treylis
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:33:00 -
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Haha, I can hardly say no to this. I'll take a share.
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Yumi Katanawe
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:35:00 -
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Considering you just got scammed 500 million if I were you I'd reserve my opinion to myself.
The recent scam just showed the way this forum and it's most prominent lurkers judge trust is flawed and easily exploitable. I'd suggest you quit on advicing people for a while; you see not everyone gets money reimbursed - while you do.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Exelsior
Secondly, I don't know who you are, or your reputation, be it good or bad. I know what I see.
Maybe you can arrange a meeting and show Exelsior how the business works so he gets to know you better and can properly appraise the risk of this undertaking.
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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: *****farmer Edited by: *****farmer on 14/06/2006 17:32:39
Originally by: Exelsior I'll repeat again. You may or may not be reimbursed. This is at the GMs discretion, and seeing all the problems that occured when they reimbursed (partially!) the previous SVE scam, this may not happen again.
Why hesitate? Carpe Diem! Our money is insured by CCP. You've seen it yourself. I mean, why would the GMs treat some people differently? Obviously this is their new policy.
I think you should buy five shares because imagine the returns! Lucky us this is completely free of risk.
edit: I assume the above quote is incorrect because it would make no sense to reimburse big-name people and not the little ones. I hardly think CCP hate us that much.
The quote is correct. This is the first time a reimbursement has happened, and probably the scammer posting an out of game 'You are an idiot' link was one of the reasons.
Also, interestingly, or funnily enough, 90% of the replies saying 'I'll take a share, we're 100% insured by CCP remember!' all follow the same template... My Blog with freighter services/preliminary IPO business plan
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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Exelsior on 14/06/2006 17:44:19
Originally by: Yumi Katanawe Considering you just got scammed 500 million if I were you I'd reserve my opinion to myself.
The recent scam just showed the way this forum and it's most prominent lurkers judge trust is flawed and easily exploitable. I'd suggest you quit on advicing people for a while; you see not everyone gets money reimbursed - while you do.
I know I was scammed. All i'm doing is highlighting the faults in his business plan, and noting the fact that a lot of people haven't noticed that CCP has put a 'may' in the reimbursement policy. I have indeed quitted on advising people unless i'm asked for advice, or I can't withstand from posting in threads like this.
Also, I never asked to be reimbursed, and I don't know what went wrong with the partial reimbursement but I assure you it's not my fault My Blog with freighter services/preliminary IPO business plan
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Bodhisattvas
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:51:00 -
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Hey Shamis,
Put me down for 2 shares please.
Thanks
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Cherybol
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:52:00 -
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CCP msut either hate us because of these kinds of threads, or they are laughing there ass off because they arn't going to reimburse IPO scams anymore.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Exelsior Firstly, you are saying that 'don't worry, if I scam you, CCP will reimburse you'. Well, you don't know that. This was a one off case, and there has been no official word from CCP. But what matters more is that you're already acting as if you'll scam but that it doesn't matter.
If CCP retracts their refund policy publicly then I'll retract my 100% risk free claims. I know there is no risk to investors, but I will have a hard time proving it to the general public. That is where CCP comes in.
Originally by: Exelsior Secondly, I don't know who you are, or your reputation, be it good or bad. I know what I see.
You should get out more. I run one of the oldest and well respected pirate organizations in EVE. I have never killed anybody who payed my ransoms, I have never ripped off my corp mates. You can read up on me in the next EON issue. Not sure exactly when its due to be released, but there should be a feature in there about me.
Originally by: Exelsior And I see that you have posted a very primitive and short business plan with no precise figures, and that you probably spent at most 30 minutes coming up with and writing down. I know that you have been spamming the forums advertising your IPO, which is bad, as good IPOs don't need much publicity. I know that your numbers are pretty wild.
I'm not an accountant, I'm a PvP'er. But I know how to make money. I"m a very busy man in game, and I have no time to write out a 10 page business plan which will be full of crap anyway. You give me money, I invest it, I pay dividends that's how it works. If somebody can come in here and show evidence that I don't know how to manage my money then I can try to rebuke them. But any sort of formal details on what I've done or will do can be easily faked anyway. You have to trust in my abilities and my character.
Originally by: Exelsior What happens if your mothership is blown up?
I can assure you that this won't happen. CCP was kind enough to make them immune to EW. The only way to hold one down is via interdiction spheres. And as long as I log out before I'm aggro'd I can easily get away from them. Not that I support logging out in combat. But if its for the sake of the stockholders I will do it.
Originally by: Exelsior What if the political situation in eve changes so radically your plan fails, for example the land you were previously using or were planning to use was taken over by hostile forces that overwhelm you 10:1?
We're always outnumbered. We won't be conquering any land. We'll be moving around swiftly, employing guerilla tactics to 'harvest' the land. NPC'ers and miners in deep space are heavily laden with Cap recharger 2's and all sorts of nice officer mods. We'll mostly be using vagabonds and interdictors, both of which are easily capable of evading blobs.
Originally by: Exelsior And then the prints: have you had any experience in manufacturing? What blueprints are you aiming for? Tech II? Tech I? You haven't even said.
You clearly haven't read this thread. I've stated several times that I made a lot of money on T1 production. I currently own 3 nicely researched battlecruiser bpo's, and I recently sold a covetor bpo. I was able to earn an average of about 13% per isk spent on minerals per week on these bpo's. And I ran billions of isk worth of mins through them each week. I still have these prints to fall back on while I'm shopping for the right t2 bpo's. I also just purchased an me18 dominix bpo which I will be taking to me20. The t1 bs bpc market is booming these days for those of you who haven't been watching...(noobs).
Originally by: Exelsior Also, a lot of the talk here praising your IPO has been blind and wild praise, as if you paid them or they are your friends, or maybe alts. Something to improve perhaps?
Agreed. I'll have to look for some respected third parties that will vouch for me. Stay tuned for that.
Shamis
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Saint Schala
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Posted - 2006.06.14 17:55:00 -
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10 shares plz
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Poolpy
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Posted - 2006.06.14 18:01:00 -
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I reserve 5 shares, I'm quite curious to see the snigg in action with a mothership
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