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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:00:00 -
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It's nuts. On some ships you have to sacrifice a high slot or two, even though you have a utility high free. I really wish they would lower its requirements or give a ship a role bonus to use the damned thing.  |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5335
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:02:00 -
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What?
Sorry you want what?
The single most useful scannign item in the game should be easier to use and the fact that all ships with scannign binuses give it bonuses isnt enough?
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
7033
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:03:00 -
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You can't be serious.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:08:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:The single most useful scanning item in the game should be easier to use and the fact that all ships with scanning bonuses give it bonuses isnt enough?
You mean frigates? It ain't fitting on a Heron, that's for sure. |
Elyan Mishi
Vertical.
4
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:11:00 -
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I don't know what you're trying to do with it exactly, but the regular core probe launcher I requires like 15 cpu and scans your data/relic sites just fine. Generally you take a cov ops if you want to combat scan. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5335
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:11:00 -
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Brian Harrelstein wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:The single most useful scanning item in the game should be easier to use and the fact that all ships with scanning bonuses give it bonuses isnt enough? You mean frigates? It ain't fitting on a Heron, that's for sure.
You sure about that? What have you tried?
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2279
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:12:00 -
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Because it would be seriously OP if it was easily fittable to any ship out there.
Think about combat ships. The way it is now, you need either a friend,
or you switch ships, or gimp your fitting. But there are a few bigger ships
that work fine with it.
The case of the bottomless dress.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
- Cowards deserve punishment -
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
11931
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:13:00 -
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Its expanded, that means it takes up more room.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1948
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:17:00 -
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because of balance
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
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ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
WormHole Occupation and Resource Exploitation
1847
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:49:00 -
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Brian Harrelstein wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:The single most useful scanning item in the game should be easier to use and the fact that all ships with scanning bonuses give it bonuses isnt enough? You mean frigates? It ain't fitting on a Heron, that's for sure.
Yes it can, check again
Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button. |
Elmonky
Titans of The Short Bus
Universal Consortium
37
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Posted - 2014.06.14 13:55:00 -
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I heard you liked scanning with a combat scanner whilst scanning in your specialised scanning bonus ship.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
3002
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Posted - 2014.06.14 14:49:00 -
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Brian Harrelstein wrote: I really wish they would lower its requirements or give a ship a role bonus to use the damned thing.
I really wish people would learn EVE before complaining about it.
"i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2287
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Posted - 2014.06.14 14:55:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Brian Harrelstein wrote: I really wish they would lower its requirements or give a ship a role bonus to use the damned thing. I really wish people would learn EVE before complaining about it.
Dunning Krueger literally* everywhere!
Mail will still come, btw.
* literally see the literally other thread
The case of the bottomless dress.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1952
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Posted - 2014.06.14 15:22:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Brian Harrelstein wrote: I really wish they would lower its requirements or give a ship a role bonus to use the damned thing. I really wish people would learn EVE before complaining about it. Dunning Krueger literally* everywhere! Mail will still come, btw. * literally see the literally other thread
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Netan MalDoran
Yumping Amok
Circle-Of-Two
15
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Posted - 2014.06.14 16:06:00 -
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The power of combat scanning on a 300k rifter.....yeah, that's not what I call balanced. I hate it but I see why it's there.
PS: PROBING IBIS!!!!!
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
Glathull
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
411
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Posted - 2014.06.14 16:09:00 -
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It's because of how much god hates your puppy.
Turrents |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
1274
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Posted - 2014.06.14 18:15:00 -
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With good fitting skills and a Co-Processor II, you can totally fit an Expanded Probe Launcher, a Cloak, a MWD, and some upgrades. At least with my skills/implants I can.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
533
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Posted - 2014.06.14 18:36:00 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:The power of combat scanning on a 300k rifter.....yeah, that's not what I call balanced. I hate it but I see why it's there.
PS: PROBING IBIS!!!!!
I haven't gone probing in a while so I'm not sure how big of a deal it is, but on a rifter you don't get the scanning bonuses.
You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
482
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Posted - 2014.06.14 19:25:00 -
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Bring back Deep Space Probes. Then bring back things in deep space to find with them. 
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EDIT; Op, train everything in engineering to lvl5 and watch how easy it gets to fit ships.
o/
They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the primitive side, the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake. |
Ammzi
Love Squad
Pasta Syndicate
1808
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Posted - 2014.06.14 19:27:00 -
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Brian Harrelstein wrote:It's nuts. On some ships you have to sacrifice a high slot or two, even though you have a utility high free. I really wish they would lower its requirements or give a ship a role bonus to use the damned thing.
******* biomass yourself. |
Atalia Madeveda
TaxDoge
1
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Posted - 2014.06.14 22:50:00 -
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Use a normal probe launcher chuckles. |
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
232
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Posted - 2014.06.14 22:51:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Because [an expanded probe launcher] would be seriously OP if it was easily fittable to any ship out there.
+1
Finding people is definitely an overpowering ability for just any ship to have. In addition, CCP should nerf approaching other ships on grid, locking other ships, and possibly seeing them at all, as all these things make interacting with them so much more possible . . . and interaction is bad.
I, for one, support removing combat probing from the game entirely. In fact, there should be an exclusion zone of maybe 100,000 km around any ship in space not at a celestial. No warping directly to anyone! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5361
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Posted - 2014.06.14 22:56:00 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Because [an expanded probe launcher] would be seriously OP if it was easily fittable to any ship out there. +1 Finding people is definitely an overpowering ability for just any ship to have. In addition, CCP should nerf approaching other ships on grid, locking other ships, and possibly seeing them at all, as all these things make interacting with them so much more possible . . . and interaction is bad. I, for one, support removing combat probing from the game entirely. In fact, there should be an exclusion zone of maybe 100,000 km around any ship in space not at a celestial. No warping directly to anyone!
The word easily clearly means something different in Morganite
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Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2014.06.14 23:11:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
That was like watching paint dry.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1965
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Posted - 2014.06.15 00:21:00 -
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Barton Breau wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote: That was like watching paint dry.
never said you'd enjoy it did i
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Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
3571
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Posted - 2014.06.15 01:10:00 -
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Expanded Launcher Heron, complete with a grav cap, T2 improved cloak, data and relic analyzers, some scan upgrades and a 1MN MWD
But yeah, the expanded launcher has stupid amounts of CPU because it;s made specifically to fit to ONLY the ships that are made for it. But if you're willing to gimp the hell out of a combat ship you're more than welcome to....
The Drake is a Lie |
Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.06.15 04:33:00 -
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Belt Scout wrote:EDIT; Op, train everything in engineering to lvl5 and watch how easy it gets to fit ships.
Already at 4's, CPU management 5.
I guess I'm doing it wrong. (TM)
Ammzi wrote:******* biomass yourself.
Yes, mommy. I'll get right on that. Let me just flush 10M SP and 6 months down the toilet.  |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
333
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Posted - 2014.06.15 04:38:00 -
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Brian Harrelstein wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:The single most useful scanning item in the game should be easier to use and the fact that all ships with scanning bonuses give it bonuses isnt enough? You mean frigates? It ain't fitting on a Heron, that's for sure.
Pssst, less **** skills would be a good start. My heron can fit it just fine.
This is as nice as I get.
Best quote ever
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Doom Generation
THE H0NEYBADGER
399
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Posted - 2014.06.15 05:43:00 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Because [an expanded probe launcher] would be seriously OP if it was easily fittable to any ship out there. +1 Finding people is definitely an overpowering ability for just any ship to have. In addition, CCP should nerf approaching other ships on grid, locking other ships, and possibly seeing them at all, as all these things make interacting with them so much more possible . . . and interaction is bad. I, for one, support removing combat probing from the game entirely. In fact, there should be an exclusion zone of maybe 100,000 km around any ship in space not at a celestial. No warping directly to anyone!
Try leaving high sec, scrub.
Combat probing is one of the single most powerful roles in the game. If you can't see how it would be unbalanced to give every ship that ability, you need to venture out of the starter systems and take a trip to low/null/wormholes for a little perspective
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1380
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Posted - 2014.06.15 07:13:00 -
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Congratulations, you have made a crappy heron that can probe down ships.... and run sites with no NPC's, and dies if anything sneezes in it's direction.
The CPU requirement is so high to stop any ship fitting it without sacrifice. That doesn't mean that there shouldn't be some decent non T3's able to fit it without sacrificing literally all combat ability. A T2 cruiser perhaps (Like those 'Recons, lets actually allow them to recon, especially those combat recons who totally should have combat probes). Which has a role bonus to bring the CPU cost down to sensible levels without making it 0.
It's a poor mans hack fix atm to a problem and could certainly be improved. |
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