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Omega Crendraven Crow Homocide Squad Black Rise Police Department 165	Posted - 2014.08.09 18:21:00 - [31] - Quote you are dirty sanshas LP pig farmer ur weak c0ven you want ammo buff so you can make piles of shekel but we the serbs are not stupid haha you might return to T-8 we have no combat probes out))) no NC. cyno proteus watching you you can run mission safely xa xa ax and dont warp to ping on station we dont have bubble neither)) " REMOVE RLML remove rlml you are worst light missile, you are the missile idiot you are the missile smell. return to rubicon. to our hml cousins you may come our fitting. you may live in the hangarGÇª.ahahahaha" CCP Rise
Anthar Thebess 652	Posted - 2014.08.09 18:28:00 - [32] - Quote Omega Crendraven wrote: you are dirty sanshas LP pig farmer ur weak c0ven you want ammo buff so you can make piles of shekel but we the serbs are not stupid haha you might return to T-8 we have no combat probes out))) no NC. cyno proteus watching you you can run mission safely xa xa ax and dont warp to ping on station we dont have bubble )) Well whoever you are, the idea came to me when i have to import faction ammo to my zealot, as local ammo is worst. I don't think you make more isk on sansha crystals, as the main limiting item is price for implants and ships. This change is for all faction ammo, crystals i know and use, and it is better for me to show what is wrong. Will the sansha ammo become superior in the PVP , it will be used more against shield fleets, but at the same time will be much more worthless against armor ships. Imperial Navy will be still most often use as it will be cheapest. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
Linkxsc162534 Traps 'R' Us 92	Posted - 2014.08.09 19:15:00 - [33] - Quote Omega Crendraven wrote: you are dirty sanshas LP pig farmer ur weak c0ven you want ammo buff so you can make piles of shekel but we the serbs are not stupid haha you might return to T-8 we have no combat probes out))) no NC. cyno proteus watching you you can run mission safely xa xa ax and dont warp to ping on station we dont have bubble neither)) I have no idea what you are trying to say. But like a guy said above, SOE could be added for laser crystals (sorry forgot about them was just checking for ammo types off of EFT, plenty of opportunity for all factions to have ammos.) EOM does missiles and hybrids IIRC Ammatar, Kahnid, Syndicate, Thukker, Mordus Legion, SOW all have no ammo types, and literally aren't treated as serious factions ingame (Mordus and SOE finally got some warships, but all of them could turn out ammos, and faction gear.)

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3309	Posted - 2014.08.10 02:53:00 - [34] - Quote Removed some off topic posts. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Amarisen Gream Lone Wolf Union Yulai Federation 46	Posted - 2014.08.10 08:01:00 - [35] - Quote as I've posted other places - Reduce the number of ammo families Hybrid, Projectile, and laser all have 8 types. In a lot of ways not a lot of differences between the different types. some range. cap use. etc. Change how getting ammo from LP works. Instead of a insta-swap. Give us a BPC that takes that ammo. in hopes to also reduce the isk price. --So much can be done on the weapon platforms and ammos. . .would be nice if CCP stopped thinking ship hull balance is what matters. xoxo Amarisen Gream
Anthar Thebess 652	Posted - 2014.08.10 08:12:00 - [36] - Quote BPC are good idea. Will it reduce isk price - i don't think so. I like the idea of hauling bunch of BPC instead of ammo, produce some T1 locally, and then transform it to faction versions. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
Colonel Mortis Coven Of Witches 2	Posted - 2014.08.13 07:09:00 - [37] - Quote +1 More variety
Anthar Thebess 654	Posted - 2014.08.16 09:54:00 - [38] - Quote Ty. More support Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
Foxstar Damaskeenus Biohazard. Ineluctable. 166	Posted - 2014.08.17 00:48:00 - [39] - Quote Daichi Yamato wrote: ammo-cide to come after meta-cide/module tieracide? Is there anything more that could be done than mixing up damage ratios? Hybrid charges have lots of variants. Gurista's with slight optimal/velocity boost? shadow with slight tracking boost? guardian with slight fall off boost? Though i wonder how OP things can become with faction weapons providing specialised boosts, and then ammo doing the same. This sounds cool, but I can see how things would get out of hand.
Anthar Thebess 654	Posted - 2014.08.17 17:49:00 - [40] - Quote Well how ammunition will interact with different ship/fits it is very easy to check. I don't want higsec ammo to be obsolete , but pirate faction one to be different , and have narrow, but very useful application. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
DrysonBennington Aliastra Gallente Federation 161	Posted - 2014.08.17 19:36:00 - [41] - Quote I'm all in favor of Sleeper Faction Ammo that would have to be reversed engineered in order to obtain useable ammo.
James Baboli Ferrous Infernum 74	Posted - 2014.08.17 20:30:00 - [42] - Quote I would love to see faction ammo different for more than just the straight 25% increase in damage on most types. For hybrids. Caldari could have a 2% increase in range for -1% tracking, reverse that for gallante, and then serpentis ammo could have a bit more damage for slightly less tracking (after all, with those webs, who needs it?) while guristas get some extra something. The issue is, this becomes another feature to have to balance everything else with and especially it gets into XL ammo. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did.
Anthar Thebess 655	Posted - 2014.08.17 21:16:00 - [43] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: I'm all in favor of Sleeper Faction Ammo that would have to be reversed engineered in order to obtain useable ammo. Why not , if it will be not superior to any other ammo ,but different - always some bonus to WH people. It could be +100% damage -200% tracking - something i shoot to a super or a structure. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
Corraidhin Farsaidh Hello-There 641	Posted - 2014.08.17 22:13:00 - [44] - Quote How about faction ammo that deals the damage type most suited to the FW enemy...
James Baboli Ferrous Infernum 77	Posted - 2014.08.18 07:55:00 - [45] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: DrysonBennington wrote: I'm all in favor of Sleeper Faction Ammo that would have to be reversed engineered in order to obtain useable ammo. Why not , if it will be not superior to any other ammo ,but different - always some bonus to WH people. It could be +100% damage -200% tracking - something i shoot to a super or a structure. That sort of negative number ends up breaking the game, as it will cause negative percentages and EVE handles them VERY badly. Faction ammo changes are mostly a flavor thing, with the spirit being a slight tactical advantage to be gained by picking the right ammo, not "This here caldari ammo lets you snipe with blasters, and this sleeper ammo makes rails hit like blasters" That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did.
Anthar Thebess 656	Posted - 2014.08.18 08:34:00 - [46] - Quote This was just a thought about possible sleeper versions. As like i stated i don't want any faction ammo to be superior in most of the situations. They should be different ( not worst) or at least similar. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
Maeltstome Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi 575	Posted - 2014.08.18 08:49:00 - [47] - Quote This idea also helps some PVE situations. Since Minmatar are the only race with reliably selectable damage types, this would allow other races to stack damage into the lower-resist of rats. But what do you do with Faction missiles? Offer Split damage missiles?
Anthar Thebess 656	Posted - 2014.08.18 08:53:00 - [48] - Quote Hard to say, CCP can easily say what can be done and what cannot. For example , making some missiles smaller even at worst damage rate can at the end be positive thing. Why? Because more of them will be in the launchers , so you can fire more rounds, less reloads , etc. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
James Baboli Ferrous Infernum 77	Posted - 2014.08.18 14:07:00 - [49] - Quote Maeltstome wrote: This idea also helps some PVE situations. Since Minmatar are the only race with reliably selectable damage types, this would allow other races to stack damage into the lower-resist of rats. But what do you do with Faction missiles? Offer Split damage missiles? Seeing as you have navy and gurista's missiles, offering better application on one and better damage on the other seems to be the logical answer That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did.
gascanu Bearing Srl. 148	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:48:00 - [50] - Quote pretty good ideea, +1
Anthar Thebess 663	Posted - 2014.08.19 11:07:00 - [51] - Quote More support ! Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
Sapheni Black Moon Mining 11	Posted - 2014.08.19 11:19:00 - [52] - Quote +1 Especially like the Sleeper ammo idea - perhaps it could be manufactured out of the more common low-end Sleeper salvage components.
Fer'isam K'ahn None Of One 324	Posted - 2014.08.19 11:38:00 - [53] - Quote Corrected Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?!
Leyete Wulf Dark Fusion Industries 52	Posted - 2014.08.19 12:52:00 - [54] - Quote I would be in favor of the pirate faction ammo delivery a lot more variety, personally I'd like to see so variation in damage types (ie pirate laser crystals that do kinetic or explosive damage, dread gurista missiles that do split damage kin/therm em/explo etc). And to the guys saying pirate ammo is just the way it should be. Try selling Arch Angel anything on the market and see how it moves. Drops of it are sparse and the only advantage to it is role play.
James Baboli Ferrous Infernum 81	Posted - 2014.08.19 12:59:00 - [55] - Quote Leyete Wulf wrote: I would be in favor of the pirate faction ammo delivery a lot more variety, personally I'd like to see so variation in damage types (ie pirate laser crystals that do kinetic or explosive damage, dread gurista missiles that do split damage kin/therm em/explo etc). And to the guys saying pirate ammo is just the way it should be. Try selling Arch Angel anything on the market and see how it moves. Drops of it are sparse and the only advantage to it is role play. Removing the damage type limitations on weapon systems will break the intended and currently reasonable game balance. This is not a good idea. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did.
Maeltstome Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi 585	Posted - 2014.08.19 13:39:00 - [56] - Quote James Baboli wrote: Leyete Wulf wrote: I would be in favor of the pirate faction ammo delivery a lot more variety, personally I'd like to see so variation in damage types (ie pirate laser crystals that do kinetic or explosive damage, dread gurista missiles that do split damage kin/therm em/explo etc). And to the guys saying pirate ammo is just the way it should be. Try selling Arch Angel anything on the market and see how it moves. Drops of it are sparse and the only advantage to it is role play. Removing the damage type limitations on weapon systems will break the intended and currently reasonable game balance. This is not a good idea. No, you can't have explosive laser beams. As stated, game balance is good right now.
Anthar Thebess 663	Posted - 2014.08.19 14:51:00 - [57] - Quote Goal of those changes is not to make explo crystals. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
gascanu Bearing Srl. 149	Posted - 2014.08.19 18:18:00 - [58] - Quote yea, there is no need to reinvent the wheel; some small changes for start should be the best, then if needed ccp can do more
Anthar Thebess 663	Posted - 2014.08.20 11:22:00 - [59] - Quote Exactly. Some LP stores could get some interesting boost this way. For example , syndicate LP store - can we have faction bombs ? Extra damage, range, speed ... those are very large and hard to transport, but yet people could buy them for some specific boosts. Because of the size ... and price , you will always find a buyer , but they never be abused. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption Support Needed : Faction Crystal Changes
Colonel Mortis Coven Of Witches 5	Posted - 2014.09.01 21:44:00 - [60] - Quote Say Yes to Lazors

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