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Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole
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Posted - 2014.06.18 00:08:00 -
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Hakaari Inkuran wrote:Search never works on either chrome or firefox for me. So there's that. Something on your end then. I'm using the latest firefox browser and it works fine.
*Notes that this is dangerously off topic.* Schrodinger's Hot Dropper |
Cassius Invictus
Thou shalt not kill A Nest of Vipers
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Posted - 2014.06.18 12:28:00 -
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The most important thing to change about Nestor is to make it stop looking like a blender or a dil*o. After that I may be interested in making it actually useful. |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2014.06.18 12:39:00 -
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Joraa Starkmanir wrote:Arean Proktor wrote:No. But I do believe nobody will buy them in the LP store. So price will pretty much stay the same. Might go down a bit due to drops but never on a level to justify the pricetag. Either Nestor get a better niche, lower Price or it will stay forever a "lulz for killmails"/hangarqueen. ) Why would i sell them for 800m when i can sell them to BUY orders for 1.4b... Thats almost 2900 isk/LP from 0.0 or 1800 isk/LP from high sec, and last i checked (12hrs ago) wou could sell 11 ships for that price. 4.4m 0.0 LP or 6.6m high sec LP. As it stands thats MORE from high sec SoE LP than Vindicators, the highest priced pirate BS atm. Using Rattlesnake as an example again its 3.2 time more per LP than Gurista Arean Proktor wrote: But if you want to prove me wrong, go ahead: run missions for SoE and sell Nestor for 800mio (still wont buy it tho...) My point is that there are people that think this ship is worth the current price, people are willing to bay it and thats where supply/demand put the price. If the ship did not sell at this price it would be lower, and thats why i have been using the Rattlesnake as an example, its price is have nothing to do with LP value since the supply from drops is higher/high enough to support the demand. Would you buy a Nestor for 400m? 300? what is the price where you think it will be used?
I imagine if you actually tried to sell the nestor you had bought elsewhere or built you would find that the purchaser would be unable to pay for the order as it was a margin trade scam. Speculators are desperately trying to find any suckers going to make a buck or just get out of this disaster. CCP still have not realised that the market they intended(wormholes) just will not buy an uncloaked warp battleship and take it out of the home hole. There are better and/or cheaper ships that do useful roles that cannot travel in WH Space, and all the extras and goodies they add on will make no more difference than putting electric windows and heated seats on a car that cannot fit wheels.
There is precisely one use for a battleship that warps uncloaked in wormholes more than one jump from the Home Hole. Bait. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.19 03:09:00 -
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My vote goes to make the nestor the only logistics enabled black ops ship. It should be transformed to a full fledge faction black ops...
No covert cloak for battleships IMHO. "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Aakkonen
The Phaeacian Fleet SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.19 13:36:00 -
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ugh... how many times I have to say this... I DONT WANT COVERT CLOAK in BS's just speed bonus from BlOps
But as Saisin said it would be rather nice to have Cloaky capable Logistics ship that doesnt cost over 60 bil (Etana) Bad Jokes since -09.... Fly Safe! o7 |
Coyote Laughing
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:16:00 -
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Aakkonen wrote:ugh... how many times I have to say this... I DONT WANT COVERT CLOAK in BS's just speed bonus from BlOps
But as Saisin said it would be rather nice to have Cloaky capable Logistics ship that doesnt cost over 60 bil (Etana)
I'd be okay with simply giving it a covert ops cloak, but forcing it to decloak to do logistics.
That would also let it jump with Black Ops Battleships, but not generate the covert portal itself and preserve the exclusive role.
The 200% bonus is okay, but maybe switching to a drone logistics bonus instead (so it has two high slots left for cloaking and probe launchers)? l8r \o/ |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:35:00 -
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Coyote Laughing wrote:I'd be okay with simply giving it a covert ops cloak, but forcing it to decloak to do logistics.
That would also let it jump with Black Ops Battleships, but not generate the covert portal itself and preserve the exclusive role.
The 200% bonus is okay, but maybe switching to a drone logistics bonus instead (so it has two high slots left for cloaking and probe launchers)?
Can you please stay out of discussions you have no clue about.
No active module will work while cloaked ... not sure why you hint, that a cov ops can rep while cloaked and want to forcibly decloak it as a penalty on the Nestor.
Sorry, if this breaks any rules, but to be polite, I'll call 'rubbish' when I see it. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Joraa Starkmanir
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:43:00 -
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A Covert ops cloak would fix alot, but as far as i know that comes with warping cloaked and no battleship have that ability. If it was some way to prevent cloaked warping for a cov ops cloaked ship i would support that. Or if its possible to black ops bridge without the cloak that would also give it alot more use |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
139
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:48:00 -
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Joraa Starkmanir wrote:A Covert ops cloak would fix alot, but as far as i know that comes with warping cloaked and no battleship have that ability. If it was some way to prevent cloaked warping for a cov ops cloaked ship i would support that. Or if its possible to black ops bridge without the cloak that would also give it alot more use
The warp-while cloaked attribute of the covered ops is the main thing that makes it a covered ops. The option to give the Nestor a reduction to the speed penalty has already been made above and does not require the cov ops installment at all. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Coyote Laughing
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Posted - 2014.06.22 12:10:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Can you please stay out of discussions you have no clue about.
Sorry, if this breaks any rules, but to be polite, I'll call 'rubbish' when I see it.
If you want to be polite, give me a reasoned argument and support it with a few examples. l8r \o/ |
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