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Snot Shot
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:51:00 -
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I blogged this a year ago so I thought I would take a look at it a year later, make some tweaks to it, and vomit it back out onto the forums. 0.0 is supposed to be a sandbox, so why did CCP add SOV to it making it a slab of concrete?
CCP can you please get rid of SOV.
So letGÇÖs think about this for a few minutes. Null Sec with a clean SOV slate.GǪGǪ No more grinding structures, ping ponging timers, alarm clocking, and any other horrendous nightmares you can think of from the last 10 yearsGÇÖ experience. You can change/impact the Null Sec landscape every time you log in and not be subjected to weeks of structures, timers, camps, and blobsGǪ CCP wouldnGÇÖt be faced with trying to fix something thatGÇÖs always been GÇ£brokenGÇ¥, to make something else that can be GÇ£gamed by the fewGÇ¥ and gridlocked again like it is now. They can simply turned it offGǪGǪ..SOV all across 0.0 dropsGǪ..and the players take control over the new sandboxGǪ.
So what are some of the outcomes to doing thisGǪGǪGǪGǪSOV goes away effectively turning Null Sec back into the GÇ£Lawless SpaceGÇ¥ itGÇÖs always been advertised asGǪGǪGǪGǪ..Station and Out Post docking doors are flung wide open across all of Null Sec and 10 years of trapped assets are unlocked for thousands of current, and past, pilots to use again. Pilots are logging in by the thousands and Null Sec springs back to life.
GÇó Alliances are no longer pinned under the weight of coalitions in order to GÇ£keep their spaceGÇ¥GǪGǪGǪ..they simply need to live in, and actively defend it for it to be theirs.
GÇó Local and regional politics would develop with leaders/war lordGÇÖs etc. coming out of the wood works to govern with limited power to hold over playersGÇÖ heads.
GÇó Back room deals can be made by the lowest level grunt each day which could drastically impact what happens throughout a constellation or regionGǪGǪstronger relationships are born.
GÇó Contracts mechanics are developed to support regional trade and local deals.
GÇó Ninja living in Null Sec could be done by anyone who wanted to take the risk alone, in Corps, Alliances by choice while others hunted them.
GÇó Grass roots market HUBs and industry in Null Sec would grow to amazing size and use all over null secGǪ.Jita size HUBs policed by Mercs etcGǪGǪGǪ. Mos Isley Space Station etcGǪ
GÇó And so many other opportunities for player driven content would come to life all around 0.0 as players were free to move where they wanted if they were willing to take the risk and develop the relationships..
So no SOVGǪGǪGǪall the stations and out posts are free portedGǪGǪGǪ.now what? Where can I plant my Alliance flag? What will it be?........my thoughts a GǣAlliance Capital StationGǥGǪGǪdestructibleGǪGǪ
Alliance Capital Station - Each Alliance can launch one GÇ£Capital StationGÇ¥ (Per Region?) which is destructible. Mechanics of how itGÇÖs destructible, timers, and what drops is something CCP/Players can toy with.
Thoughts/options that CCP can build on to make it GÇ£specialGÇ¥:
GÇó GÇ£Capital StationsGÇ¥ allow for Super Carriers to dock GÇó Docking rights can be set in Capital Stations unlike the local free ported stations GÇó Super Carrier Construction Upgrade Slots to be added to the Capital Station GÇó Anchorable mods on the station, large guns, webs, etc. so gunners can use them and station can defend itself like a POS. GÇó Industry upgrades can be added, taxes collected, etc. GÇó It takes an Alliance to up keep itGǪ.they take fuel, food, dancers, janitors, cows, booze, drugs, etc to operate/maintainGǪor it goes off line.. GÇó Walking in station upgrades, Licenses granted for such things as Casinos, bars, shops etc..only available at Alliance Capital StationsGǪthe more come the more isk you make
EmbassyGÇÖs GÇô (Its already going on so why not make it official) An Alliance holding a Region with a Capital Station, can secure an GÇ£EmbassyGÇ¥ in a Free-Ported station in each of the Constellations within the Region held. The benefits of such an Embassy can be decided as this mechanics are hammered out. Maybe some sort of benefits to anyone using the station for trade, industry, or whatever which in turn allows the Alliance to tax the goings on in that station etc.
So what about Jump Bridges, Cyno Gens, Jammers, CSAAs, and all the other SOV driven items? Without getting to f***ing complicated, IGÇÖm pretty sure most of you guys can figure out how to tie those back into the system without turning 0.0 into the same mess itGÇÖs in now.
LetGÇÖs face it, CCP is nowhere near figuring out how to GÇ£fixGÇ¥ current Null Sec GÇ£SOVGÇ¥ mechanics because there is no way to fix itGǪGǪ.shut it down, put in place mechanics that already exist (stations) and with a few tweaks we could be up and running with a new and fresh Null Sec which will thrive for years to comeGǪ
AnywaysGǪGǪ.ItGÇÖs an idea. Build off it or adjust as you think will work better but the simpler the idea more apt itGÇÖs going to get implemented by CCP quicker. The folks that keep coming up with these complicated and intricate ways to GÇ£fixGÇ¥ it just stagnate the process and to be honest, I think thatGÇÖs why you do it so stfu. The above details, or some iteration of it, will give new players a chance to make it in this game and not simply be a puppet.
AnywhooGǪGǪGǪ.flame away and cry like babies about Gǣalready having NPC spaceGǥ and silly crap like that. This is what needs to happen for EVE to surviveGǪ.
Fly it like you stole it!!! (RIP TN)
Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á - GÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
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Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:59:00 -
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FIRST! EVE needs more Pssshhhh |
DJWiggles
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:34:00 -
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:38:00 -
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hitting the bottle this early in the day? OP is hardcore
Also:
THIRD!!! |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2014.06.17 20:18:00 -
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Fourth.
Supported for great justice, great nullsec and because I've always said that the only way to fix sov is to remove it. |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2014.06.17 20:29:00 -
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lol,
I support these idea's.. oh man sits back and grabs some popcorn on this.
im sure the very ones that be are foaming at the friggin mouth at your idea's OP.
but again I say well said! lol
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.06.17 20:39:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Fourth.
Supported for great justice, great nullsec and because I've always said that the only way to fix sov is to remove it.
But that's unlikely to happen. People already cry about the announcement of destructible stations, imagine the floods when they don't have sov anymore and need to defend and actively claim it.
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Omega Crendraven
Tackled In Belt xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
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Posted - 2014.06.17 21:16:00 -
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Remove Sov from the premises. Actually is a p good idea " REMOVE RLML remove rlml you are worst light missile, you are the missile idiot you are the missile smell. return to rubicon. to our hml cousins you may come our fitting. you may live in the hangarGǪ.ahahahaha" CCP Rise |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
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Posted - 2014.06.17 21:28:00 -
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Supported after reading the title.
Ok now that I got that out of the way I will go and read the essay.
--Edit--
Yup, sounds good, no sarcasm.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 21:48:00 -
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Simple ideas are the best. Power projection would still be a problem though. |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.17 22:05:00 -
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Agree, but station access should be defined by their owners.
Also, you ought to be able to build any structure anywhere in null sec - including multiple stations in a single system. It should be up to the players to remove structures - not arbitrary Sovereignty Rules.
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Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
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Posted - 2014.06.17 22:35:00 -
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But then what will the nullbears have to cling to and uphold as their shining achievement that makes them superior to all other players, even if all they did was press F1?
What will the Renters rent?
What will the Pirates pi.... Oh wait....
+1 just because I want to watch what happens when this torch drops on the dry, stale bed of straw that is null-sec when Sov disappears overnight. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Lord Fudo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 23:47:00 -
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Hell yeah, no sov in null would be fun to watch. Would that mean supers and titans could then be built in wormhole space? |
Snot Shot
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.18 00:00:00 -
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Lord Fudo wrote:Hell yeah, no sov in null would be fun to watch. Would that mean supers and titans could then be built in wormhole space? GÇó Super Carrier Construction Upgrade Slots to be added to the Capital Station Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á - GÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
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Paikis
Lycosa Syndicate Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.06.18 00:09:00 -
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Remember when we had that standings bug? Remember how many people thought it was "The best bug ever!" and that CCP should "leave this one in game" because they were having so much fun?
- Remove Sov. - Remove ability to set standings.
Boom. Null sec fixed. If you're not in my alliance, you're a target. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
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Posted - 2014.06.18 01:51:00 -
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This would be nice... especially the Capital Station idea- hell, maybe an alliance with a capital station could even lobby for a custom skin for one ship or something like that that you could only get there? That'd be fun
And sov sucks.
+1 "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
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Posted - 2014.06.18 01:53:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:This would be nice... especially the Capital Station idea- hell, maybe an alliance with a capital station could even lobby for a custom skin for one ship or something like that that you could only get there? That'd be fun And sov sucks. +1
If they ever finish the custom ship skins tool they showed at fanfest this will be easily accomplished. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Auduin Samson
Do not disturb Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2014.06.18 05:46:00 -
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SIXTEENTH!
...wait, are we still going? You just lost your ship The tears will fuel my spaceship Go quit Eve again
-Bane Nucleus-á |
Red Teufel
Artificial Intelligence. The East India Co.
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Posted - 2014.06.18 05:49:00 -
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just removing sov alone would benefit the game. That is how bad the sov mechanics are. and for the love of god fix the pos towers so more groups can make it out on their own away from the limitations of security space. |
Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2014.06.18 06:22:00 -
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+1 But i think ccp will never do it. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption |
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Thelying dutchman
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2014.06.18 07:05:00 -
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never thought Id agree with snot but I do!
please make it so |
Snot Shot
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.18 11:02:00 -
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You look through the names of the 0.0 stations and a lot are named after Game of Thrones castles....well if CCP did something like the Alliance Capital Stations people would actually have their Castle Blacks and Winterfells etc. Worth attacking and defending etc. Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á - GÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
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Madbuster73
V0LTA Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2014.06.18 11:13:00 -
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Love the Idea. +1 |
Aakkonen
The Phaeacian Fleet SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.19 13:59:00 -
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if only eve forums would have somekinda voting mechanic, anyways Big 1+ Always hated sov mechanics. ( but still being in null alliance has its benefits)
Bring the sov down! Bad Jokes since -09.... Fly Safe! o7 |
Grunnax Aurelius
The Horny Heron's Horny Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:41:00 -
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Supported and Bumped!!! +1 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=342042&find=unread |
Bakuhz
The Horny Heron's Horny Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:42:00 -
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Interesting idea!
yes please!!! http://rakah.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=%3CBakuhz
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Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:54:00 -
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+1
, actually surprised about the general positive tone of the thread. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Maz Ngomo
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:11:00 -
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Nullsec isn't intended to be 'lawless space', that's lowsec. Nullsec is intended to be a place for groups of players to carve out their own territory and enforce their own laws and restrictions (or lack thereof depending entirely on the people in question). Sov is fine, but admittedly the mechanics are still terrible. |
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:25:00 -
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Here's a thought:
Kill the Sov mechanics, just like Snot said.
If we want to define something afterwards, having learned from this mess, that's another issue to be handled... LATER.
Don't let the pursuit of the perfect block the adoption of the good.
+1 Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked... |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:25:00 -
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Maz Ngomo wrote:Nullsec isn't intended to be 'lawless space', that's lowsec. Nullsec is intended to be a place for groups of players to carve out their own territory and enforce their own laws and restrictions (or lack thereof depending entirely on the people in question). Sov is fine, but admittedly the mechanics are still terrible.
I find it curious that everything I have ever read or seen or listened to regarding EVE has always explained nullsec as "lawless space" while you insist that it somehow is not.
Additionally, if lowsec is lawless then why do I get shot at by gate and station guns when I violate empire laws by shooting at someone else? |
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