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Thomas Hurt Sauskantir Tribe 296	Posted - 2014.06.17 21:56:00 - [1] - Quote I'm plexing my accounts and that means money is eventually finding it's way into CCP's pockets, why can't I queue up a month's worth of skills on my 22 characters and not login while I take a break from the game? I don't see how allowing that would hurt anyone, and it would add a good ~5 minutes free time to my mornings.
Karen Avioras Unsung Heroes Spaceship Samurai 905	Posted - 2014.06.17 21:58:00 - [2] - Quote They want you to log in. 24 hours is really chill
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders 677	Posted - 2014.06.17 21:58:00 - [3] - Quote IB4 all hell breaks loose
stoicfaux 4996	Posted - 2014.06.17 21:59:00 - [4] - Quote In the beginning there was no skill queue. Only alarm clocks.... only alarm clocks... /make_the_ringing_stop WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
Thomas Hurt Sauskantir Tribe 296	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:00:00 - [5] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: IB4 all hell breaks loose I'm sure the Knuckleheads & Trolls on this forum will find something to whine about, but I really can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with massively extending the max skill queue.
Tilly Delnero Licorne Ventures Ltd. 124	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:05:00 - [6] - Quote Thomas Hurt wrote: I'm plexing my accounts and that means money is eventually finding it's way into CCP's pockets, why can't I queue up a month's worth of skills on my 22 characters and not login while I take a break from the game? I don't see how allowing that would hurt anyone, and it would add a good ~5 minutes free time to my mornings. You can, it's kind of a hidden feature but here's how you do it: 1. Add any skill or combination of skills that takes less than 24 hours to complete. As long as you leave at least a minute you can add another skill. 2. Add (racial) Carrier 5 to the queue. Ta-da! Over a month's worth of training with no extra configuration or effort involved.
KnowUsByTheDead Sunlight...Through The Blight. 1847	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:07:00 - [7] - Quote Thomas Hurt wrote: Gully Alex Foyle wrote: IB4 all hell breaks loose I'm sure the Knuckleheads & Trolls on this forum will find something to whine about, but I really can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with massively extending the max skill queue. Sure I can. With longer skill queues... People log in less... Less content is being created... With less content... People get bored... When people get bored... People unsub... When people unsub... Devs lose jobs... When devs lose jobs... Companies fail. For a company that relies on player made content to stay afloat, people not logging in... Disaster. Told you I could. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 14463	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:10:00 - [8] - Quote Eve Online: The game everyone claims to love, but obviously hates playing. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders 678	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:18:00 - [9] - Quote What do you need 22 characters for?
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 5478	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:18:00 - [10] - Quote You can make it longer Pop in a 20 or 30 day skill et voila "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the * can you think you are entitled to be such an ****?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project

Felicity Love It Was the Year 3030 1928	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:36:00 - [11] - Quote Thomas Hurt wrote: I'm plexing my accounts and that means money is eventually finding it's way into CCP's pockets, why can't I queue up a month's worth of skills on my 22 characters and not login while I take a break from the game? I don't see how allowing that would hurt anyone, and it would add a good ~5 minutes free time to my mornings. Now, if you were to rephrase that post to suggest that those extremely elusive 5 minutes were to be spent on some genuine pursuit of happiness... like, oh, quickies with the maid before the wife wakes up... then you'd probably get alot more support for this idea. Flipping skills, well... just doesn't reach out to people, y'know ? "Psssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh" -á-- That ambiguous and pseudo-technical term used by management to describe to staff how frakking cool something looks inside their own heads.
Val'Dore PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation 548	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:41:00 - [12] - Quote People logging into change, add, abort, retry skills is not content. If someone wants to pay to not play the game, why should that be a problem? More server performance for the rest of us. SJD I invented Tiericide
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2093	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:42:00 - [13] - Quote Thomas Hurt wrote: Gully Alex Foyle wrote: IB4 all hell breaks loose I'm sure the Knuckleheads & Trolls on this forum will find something to whine about, but I really can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with massively extending the max skill queue. Hes refering to the ppl who have (quite recently) been moaning about is boxers, you have kinda made yourself a target. "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." Unsuccessful At Everything
Aliventi Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous 745	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:46:00 - [14] - Quote Remove attributes and attribute implants. Skills train at 2700 SP/hr and the SP is deposited in to a free SP pool that is capped at 1-3 mil SP. Then when you want to train a skill you just apply the SP out of the pool. Simple for noobs to understand and not screw up and allows them to PvP without worrying about losing their +3 implants. Nice for us older players that may not be able always have access to Eve due to business trips, military deployments, etc. Join [FIGL] Flying Dangerous Today!
Praetor Siderium CRIMMSEN 1	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:54:00 - [15] - Quote KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Thomas Hurt wrote: Gully Alex Foyle wrote: IB4 all hell breaks loose I'm sure the Knuckleheads & Trolls on this forum will find something to whine about, but I really can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with massively extending the max skill queue. Sure I can. With longer skill queues... People log in less... Less content is being created... With less content... People get bored... When people get bored... People unsub... When people unsub... Devs lose jobs... When devs lose jobs... Companies fail. For a company that relies on player made content to stay afloat, people not logging in... Disaster. Told you I could. 9/10. Put this on the Goonswarm "Every Ship Counts" poster and I'll revise my rating.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 837	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:57:00 - [16] - Quote Pathfinder Online which hits early release in about 2 weeks pretty much imported the EVE skill system into a Fantasy MMO but with one big difference. If your skill queue is empty the SP accumulate as unallocated SP while ever your account is current.
Evei Shard Shard Industries 313	Posted - 2014.06.17 22:57:00 - [17] - Quote ITT: Logging in, changing skills, and logging out is now considered content for other players. Profit favors the prepared
45thtiger 0109 AL3XAND3R. 76	Posted - 2014.06.17 23:06:00 - [18] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: What do you need 22 characters for? For his mining bots This is a sandbox game welcome to EvE
Tilly Delnero Licorne Ventures Ltd. 126	Posted - 2014.06.17 23:08:00 - [19] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: Pathfinder Online which hits early release in about 2 weeks pretty much imported the EVE skill system into a Fantasy MMO but with one big difference. If your skill queue is empty the SP accumulate as unallocated SP while ever your account is current. I like this solution. Technically this would even be possible to implement in EVE since we already have a skill point refund pool and the ability to 'spend' them... Maybe we should suggest it to CCP, I imagine a lot of people have been burned by misjudging their skill queue times and missed out on SP.
Winchester Steele 1209	Posted - 2014.06.17 23:10:00 - [20] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Eve Online: The game everyone claims to love, but obviously hates playing. The problem with Eve, in my humble opinion, is that it is way more entertaining to philosophize about then it is to play. Unless you are in the middle of a really sweet tear filled AWOX. As for the OP. Let me just rummage around here for my form letter responses. . . Ahh, here we go: " What an original idea! No one in the history of GD has ever made such a fresh and interesting proposal. You are just such a creative little troll. I bet your Mom is proud. " ...

Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 3027	Posted - 2014.06.17 23:14:00 - [21] - Quote I was actually just discussing this with CCP Sycophant today during VIP Mode, when we were manipulating market orders, and he said that it was done just to **** you off, OP. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 838	Posted - 2014.06.17 23:14:00 - [22] - Quote Winchester Steele wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Eve Online: The game everyone claims to love, but obviously hates playing. The problem with Eve, in my humble opinion, is that it is way more entertaining to philosophize about then it is to play. Unless you are in the middle of a really sweet tear filled AWOX. It's kinda like owning a Ferrari back when I was younger (no idea what they are like these days) amazing cars with awesome potential but would be nice not to tune them every 1000km and if only the d@mn window winder wouldn't keep falling off.
Winchester Steele 1209	Posted - 2014.06.17 23:40:00 - [23] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: Winchester Steele wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Eve Online: The game everyone claims to love, but obviously hates playing. The problem with Eve, in my humble opinion, is that it is way more entertaining to philosophize about then it is to play. Unless you are in the middle of a really sweet tear filled AWOX. It's kinda like owning a Ferrari back when I was younger (no idea what they are like these days) amazing cars with awesome potential but would be nice not to tune them every 1000km and if only the d@mn window winder wouldn't keep falling off. Or like buying a really cool Ferrari only to discover that it is completely menu driven and can only go 10% of its speed if there are any other cars around. Not to mention having to be on the constant lookout for gangs of Honda Civics looking to run you off the road and loot your wreck. ...
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 1687	Posted - 2014.06.18 00:11:00 - [24] - Quote Doreen (formerly Doireen) has an F&I topic that you can put your support in for >24 hour skill queue. .. when everything else is gone ..
Spectral Tiger 5	Posted - 2014.06.18 00:51:00 - [25] - Quote Thomas Hurt wrote: I'm plexing my accounts and that means money is eventually finding it's way into CCP's pockets, why can't I queue up a month's worth of skills on my 22 characters and not login while I take a break from the game? I don't see how allowing that would hurt anyone, and it would add a good ~5 minutes free time to my mornings. Yeah, you're right they should put it back to how it used to be. With a new character you used to have to log on every hour or so just to change skills.
Heinrich Erquilenne Foundation Cutting-Edge 2	Posted - 2014.06.18 00:59:00 - [26] - Quote I found a way to add a lot of stuff to the training queue, not because I don't want to log in often but because I like being able to plan ahead of time, wait for stuff to be done and not think again about it until I get some "it's done, come back and feed me" message. Training is so ******* slow I don't even want to think about it too much. Just open the training queue, drag & drop skills you want to train, apply, enjoy.
Domina Trix McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN 44	Posted - 2014.06.18 01:00:00 - [27] - Quote Spectral Tiger wrote: Thomas Hurt wrote: I'm plexing my accounts and that means money is eventually finding it's way into CCP's pockets, why can't I queue up a month's worth of skills on my 22 characters and not login while I take a break from the game? I don't see how allowing that would hurt anyone, and it would add a good ~5 minutes free time to my mornings. Yeah, you're right they should put it back to how it used to be. With a new character you used to have to log on every hour or so just to change skills. Ah the heady days of planning which skill to train so you could allow for work/sleep etc as for the argument that people logging in to change skills and logging off again is creating content....just lol Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 22538	Posted - 2014.06.18 01:17:00 - [28] - Quote Evei Shard wrote: ITT: Logging in, changing skills, and logging out is now considered content for other players. No. Neither GÇ£ITTGÇ¥ nor GÇ£nowGÇ¥ GÇö it has always been the reason why the skill queue is limited, and before that the reason why there was no queue at all. The queue is just there to make it so that you don't have to get up at 4am to change skills. It is not there to have you set up 7 days worth of short skills and go away. It could actually be a lot shorter than it is right now, but CCP were feeling generous. Unless Earth gets hit by something suitably huge to shift its orbit and rotation, there is no real need to alter the queue length (and should such an even occur, there's still no need to alter the queue length since TQ will have ceased to exist). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 10473	Posted - 2014.06.18 01:27:00 - [29] - Quote Maybe the queue should be like, 7 days for the first 30-60 days of a character's life, just to emphasize the importance long-term planning in this game, and then switch to the standard 24 hour queue after that. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh.
Vigilant Vigilant's Vigilante's 20	Posted - 2014.06.18 01:30:00 - [30] - Quote Quit whining... I remember waking up at 3AM to change a skill because we had train one skill at a time.



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