Part of reason EVE is such an awsome game is that it takes time and effort to get what you want and that every action has a consequence. This idea goes against it.

There are plenty of instant gratification and risk free PvP games out there. EVE should not be another.

Because if your life becomes as busy as mine does and you want some 'quick pvp'... I do not have many options.

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I don't want it so you don't get it is not a good argument.

I disagree. Mission hub systems are plenty busy when eve is not dying. If the mission paid enough people would give it a shot. His suggestion limits exploiting as well. There probably could do with some adjusting of mission denial rules as well. The system could be enhanced by objectives like using a hacking module or something. It would be hilarious if these highsec missions got tied to sov somehow and nullbears paid the reward or suffered.

This is similar to how I expected FW to turn out and I think there is merit in the concept but it need to have the mechanics though out.

Make them FW missions.
Drop the high-sec provision, send to contested FW systems.
Have the result influence the sovereignty mechanic.

Post as a proposal in the assembly hall for discussion.

However I always wondered if it would be interesting if NPCs started giving high payout "kill missions" where the target is other players with really bad standings - either criminals are against corps - such as I have with Serpentis (like -9.9 or something I don't remember). Imagine pirate factions giving out kill missions for players who simply have bad standings against the pirates for ratting them so much?

Fair point. But. It would change the way EVE is played by a lot of players and it would attract a new group of players to EVE. Now that is not necessary a bad thing if it wasn't for the fact that this new group of players will demand even more instant gratification and less consequences. EVE will gravitate towards the masses instead of providing a unique experience.

As some kind of instanced arena-matching service for bored missionbears, I absolutely loathe the idea.

(PvP agents suggestion).

So leave your corp and move to the other side of the universe?

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1483760


Relevant.

As some kind of instanced arena-matching service for bored missionbears, I absolutely loathe the idea.

Why does this word keep coming up. The OP didn't prepose Instancing nor anyone else in the thread.

That is twice now =/

The mission would give you a "keycard" for your jumpgate. (explained below).
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Since the Jumpgate requires your keycard, nobody else can come and remote rep or anything.
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When in this special pvp room that you can only get to with the gate, fleet bonus's do not work

As for PvP for bored Mission Bears why not. It won't hurt what you do in game but will provide casual fun for everyone else.

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This 'instant gratification' mentality is disgusting and against the spirit of the game.

What i find disgusting is paying for a game that demands me to be lifeless in order to invest in it several hours a day in order to earn any meaningful reward.

PvP agents are not about instant reward. They are about getting fun with EVE in the only niche of time you have for it after a hard day's work and don't have that fun spoiled by a jobless punk with way too much time.

He didn't say the word 'instance', yet that's pretty much the closest thing to an instanced pvp arena imaginable.

It shouldn't provide any payout - LP or isk or standing-wise - that's just too much special treatment. Which leaves the question why they don't hook up with some corpmates and drop some cans, organise corp tournaments etc...

This 'instant gratification' mentality is disgusting and against the spirit of the game.

No it is not because that is not Instancing it is access restriction. It is surprising that so many EVE players view that as Instancing.

Step two: Type the line: 'Anyone up for a frig 1o1?' in corp chat (you can copy&paste it from here too if that's too much effort).

And what makes it different from an instance in any meaningful way?

I have read the prior reply's and there seems to be an emerging arguement to "instancing".
Ok, whether it be a restricted site like the final pocket in Angel Extravaganza, or an instance like a wh.... Lets ignore the "programming aspect" of this idea. Thats up to ccp to decide.

Ive always thought there should be more ways to get pvp in whats supposed to be a pvp game. This sort of battle arena would be one way. Also,video of the combat site could be broadcast , and people could be given the opportunity to watch to bet on the outcome of battles. Might even be worthwhile Incarna content for establishments; you go to a bar, sit with friends or enemies, and bet on the fights.

Because it is literally not Instancing, it has zero to do with instancing. If you are going to say something is Instanced it helps to know the definition of the word.

Do you know the meaning of the word 'meaningful'?

Question 1: Why not have a pvp mission agent for all levels...why just level 4's?
Answer: My reasoning for this, is so you don't get someone like me going up to level 1 agents and getting a pvp mission and whopping the butt of a brand new eve player. Once you have attained level 4's with an agent, you are no longer 'gullable' in the game and your skills in the tiny ships do seem to hold up towards older players.

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