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Bloodalt
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:33:00 -
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I recently had the very uncomfortable experience of warping through a gate to find a warp bubble and lots of players wating to gank someone.
Yes, yes of course I should have scouted first and yes I should not have drunk a bottle of red wine before heading into 0.0 space, I was very silly yes. That said I could afford to loose what I did so it wasn't all that bad.
My question is, what are my options, if any? assuming I've voted against dieing.
Some facts; I was in a scorp, 10K shields, built for scrambling. I was podded inside 5 seconds of being engaged, just as my cloak switched off.
Thanks Blood
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:35:00 -
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Target the nearest warp scrambler align to warp and hope the flip that they can't destroy you before you destroy the scrambler.
Otherwise, you are screwed.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:37:00 -
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Wish you'd scouted 
If you are bubbled and surrounded by a blob, you a dead. Like you said: you died in 5 seconds. You had no hope, what so ever.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:40:00 -
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8 factional smartbombs with 10km + range
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Bloodalt
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Miss Overlord
8 factional smartbombs with 10km + range
Thats kinda interesting, do you think if I went back in an armour tanked raven fitted with 8 factional smartbombs I could have some revenge?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:49:00 -
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There is a way that makes it possible to survive in some cases, but it's metagaming and way beyond lame so I'm not gonna tell you how.
The only reliable way is a scout. The smartbomb idea only works if the targets are close enough, and you're likely to lose your ship before aligning anyway.
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bloodalt
Originally by: Miss Overlord
8 factional smartbombs with 10km + range
Thats kinda interesting, do you think if I went back in an armour tanked raven fitted with 8 factional smartbombs I could have some revenge?
Well, on the bubble generator maybe. It's happened to me a few times, just fly fast toward the most aligned celestial and mash warp. Works for me but I tend to fly fast ships and in all cases the campers were in ranged BS with no inty tacklers.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:53:00 -
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probably loose lots of ISK worth of items but hey take a few tacklers with ya
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:58:00 -
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Pray.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.17 08:58:00 -
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Yeah, logging off is ghey
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CreatorOfLife
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Posted - 2006.06.17 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: CreatorOfLife on 17/06/2006 09:35:19
If you came through the gate, and on the other side are just tons and tons of ships and you are inside a bubble and its obvious you have no hope, why not try to negotiate with them? If you can pinpoint their leader and he has strong command over them, it might be possible to convince him you are worth more alive than dead.
Many people will not take you up on this, however, since they are starved for kills and seeing an explosion is worth more to them than 30 million isk. (Often due to vicious kill mail competitions)
Also, current EVE social rules for some reason dictate "It is more honorable to kill everyone you see, whether they have offended you in the past or not, than to allow peoples lives to be spared if they pay a fee."
That is why you find tons of alliances who kill everyone who is not specifically their freind, even if it is far, far from their actual claimed systems, yet have a rule "No pirating!!!@221!!@!"
Seems a bit hypocritical. No accepting tolls, but you can murder anyone if you want.
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The Ender
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Posted - 2006.06.17 09:53:00 -
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Well I'm going to say how to get out of it.
Logoff.
Your ship will not warp off, but will dissapear within about 20 seconds. If they can kill you in this time then you will be dead. If not when you log back on you will be 1mill km from the gate safe and sound.
The new game mechanics state that if you logoff or loose connection from EVE BEFOREyou are agressed then you simply dissapear.
The reason I have stated this here and now, is that if more and more people will start doing it, therefore more people will whine on the forums and CCP will hopefully change it back.
Too many people are currently doing it and there are not enough whining about it, so it will never get fixed.
It's lame, just lame.
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Grashopper
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Posted - 2006.06.17 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Grashopper on 17/06/2006 09:59:17
Edited by: Grashopper on 17/06/2006 09:58:59
Originally by: Bloodalt
I recently had the very uncomfortable experience of warping through a gate to find a warp bubble and lots of players wating to gank someone.
Yes, yes of course I should have scouted first and yes I should not have drunk a bottle of red wine before heading into 0.0 space, I was very silly yes. That said I could afford to loose what I did so it wasn't all that bad.
My question is, what are my options, if any? assuming I've voted against dieing.
Some facts; I was in a scorp, 10K shields, built for scrambling. I was podded inside 5 seconds of being engaged, just as my cloak switched off.
Thanks Blood
If you are not travelling in a combat setup a cloak might have saved you.
It gives you that extra time to zoom out and see how far the bubble extends and at what direction you ll be out fastest.
Of course in a Scorp its not easy, but doable it is.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2006.06.17 10:42:00 -
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Best way to get out of jumping into a bubble camp is to just burn it back to the gate. If you've got an MWD on it's only 11km that you spawn from the gate when you jump in so it's often quite doable.
Originally by: duffmantt
the majority of -10's you meet will be highly skilled.
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spRAYed
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Posted - 2006.06.17 11:05:00 -
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Back to the gate is best option, or maybe move out of scramble range and nos/kill cepters scrambling you.
Bit annoying that there's so many people scouting with alts every jump they do. Totally removing the fun and unexpected in EvE. Gate camp? Fair enough to scout. But every jump u do...common.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.06.17 11:11:00 -
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Ask to be ransomed so you lose less money, is about your only option.
Oh, and say you dont use implants :)
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Jenessa
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Posted - 2006.06.17 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: The Ender
Well I'm going to say how to get out of it.
Logoff.
Your ship will not warp off, but will dissapear within about 20 seconds. If they can kill you in this time then you will be dead. If not when you log back on you will be 1mill km from the gate safe and sound.
The new game mechanics state that if you logoff or loose connection from EVE BEFOREyou are agressed then you simply dissapear.
The reason I have stated this here and now, is that if more and more people will start doing it, therefore more people will whine on the forums and CCP will hopefully change it back.
Too many people are currently doing it and there are not enough whining about it, so it will never get fixed.
It's lame, just lame.
I agree, it's very lame and it's a tactic we're seeing more and more. We're not seeing it so much with ships but people are logging to stop their pod's being killed by interdiction spheres etc. It is something CCP need to address.
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Barron IX
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Posted - 2006.06.17 11:26:00 -
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best advice is to hope u land near the damage dealers with NOS and ECM
point your ship away from bubble and NOS the toughest ship in the gang and cycle your ECM between ships right before u warp to safe or planet and then warp around for a bit then log |
FFGR
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Posted - 2006.06.17 11:56:00 -
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Ask to be ransomed so you lose less money, is about your only option.
tbh when they say that we REALLY want to kill him and see what he will drop
9 times out of 10 they have faction/officer loot on them
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.06.17 12:30:00 -
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You're buggered if you're in anything heavier/less manouverable than a Vagabond.
A battleships momentum carries it about 5km into the bubble.
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Sean Dillon
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Posted - 2006.06.17 13:20:00 -
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You can always try to cloak if your in a covert ops, but it wont garantue you to stay in one piece as they know where u were and head for that direction.
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2006.06.17 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sean Dillon
You can always try to cloak if your in a covert ops, but it wont garantue you to stay in one piece as they know where u were and head for that direction.
In a covort ops or stealth bomber you should have the speed to escape the buuble before they find you.
Another wise cloacking will just dleay your death a bit.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:27:00 -
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If you are in a fast ship you got a good chance. Wait for 20 sec (needs strong nerves) and MWD back to the gate and jump out.
You may want to write .i.. in local befor you hit the jump button.
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Che Caldari
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bloodalt
...My question is, what are my options, if any? assuming I've voted against dieing.
Thanks Blood
Drink another bottle of red wine and scream in local "COME ON THEN WHOS FIRST?"
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Izo Azlion
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Pray.
Jenny got it right. Negotiate before you uncloak, or jab warp n hope for the best.
Izo Azlion.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:59:00 -
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make a run for a gate.
on another note you should have scout bm a few million km off the gate so you can scan make sure.
the map is your friend.
if theres 15in local and 30kills in last hour its not gona be a good place to blind jump
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Zezman
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Posted - 2006.06.17 17:39:00 -
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Your best bet is to get into another ship, preferrably an expensive one, with lots and lots of fation loot...er i mean equipment, and call all of your toughest friends, and have them do the same, so we can harves... .er i mean fight you and see who the best winnar is.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.17 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Ask to be ransomed so you lose less money, is about your only option.
Oh, and say you dont use implants :)
actually don't use implants
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Michiyo Daishi
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Posted - 2006.06.17 20:36:00 -
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from my experiences as being the scout who gets caught in the bubble anyway, I usualyl get shot at, no ransoming, no pity for my pod.
My suggestion:
Pray. Pray your arse off..
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.17 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Izo Azlion
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Pray.
Jenny got it right. Negotiate before you uncloak, or jab warp n hope for the best.
/me just prays at node crash. We all know everyone likes to farm killmails. 
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