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Ihazcheez Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.18 12:08:00 -
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It's as the subject says.. please please please enable jump freighter specific cynos to operate in high security systems.
As it is you can jump out of high sec, but would love the function of being able to cyno a freighter back to high sec.
Heck, I might actually use my JF in this case!
TLDR; Freighter only cyno. allows jumping into and through high sec. |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
555
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Posted - 2014.06.18 12:14:00 -
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As a JF pilot and logistics bod while I would love this I'm going to have to say no.
To me cynos are binary, either you have them or you don't and in HiSec you don't for very good reasons.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
Anthar Thebess
517
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Posted - 2014.06.18 12:32:00 -
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So jump from Nullsec station to Higsec , and back?
Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies
The Unthinkables
2235
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Posted - 2014.06.18 14:12:00 -
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No. Just no.
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Gaijin Lanis
Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.06.18 14:44:00 -
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Only if lighting a cyno in hisec gives a suspect tag and calls faction police. Same goes for anything jumping in. Also weapons timer on anything jumping into hisec.
The above was written and posted with nothing but love in my heart for all. |
Tabyll Altol
Caldari Campers
2
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Posted - 2014.06.18 14:53:00 -
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I keep it simple.
NO ! |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
290
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Posted - 2014.06.18 14:54:00 -
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Nope. Simple reason that high sec police would be 100% against allowing this, as it would allow the completely safe transport of illegal goods through high sec.
It'd be like putting a dirt road that cuts off from the main highway at a national border with a sign that says "Drug Smugglers Only". Why would any of the empires allow you a guaranteed way to bypass their customs laws?
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries
Silent Infinity
474
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Posted - 2014.06.18 14:56:00 -
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Daoden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.18 14:58:00 -
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Cause jump freighters are already at so much of risk just docking and skipping 99% of the stargates as is.
No |
TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises
Intrepid Crossing
236
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Posted - 2014.06.18 16:04:00 -
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Put a jump beacon 2 AU away from Jita 4-4 that any black ops or JF can jump to.
Will be perma-camped and bumping 23.5/7. |
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
Forged of Fire
479
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Posted - 2014.06.18 16:09:00 -
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Ihazcheez Hashur wrote:It's as the subject says.. please please please enable jump freighter specific cynos to operate in high security systems.
As it is you can jump out of high sec, but would love the function of being able to cyno a freighter back to high sec.
Heck, I might actually use my JF in this case!
TLDR; Freighter only cyno. allows jumping into and through high sec.
No. It would actually be better if ships could not jump out of high sec to a cyno, but had to take at least one gate.
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Maximum Entropy
Entropic Principal
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Posted - 2014.06.19 03:13:00 -
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How to post in "Features and Ideas" subforum:
Just write "no."
Don't need to give a reason.
Just say "no" to change. Because people with autism hate change. |
Dally Lama
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2014.06.19 06:52:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:How to post in "Features and Ideas" subforum:
Just write "no."
Don't need to give a reason.
Just say "no" to change. Because people with autism hate change.
No, with a reason:
Skipping over the entirety of high-sec is too easy and does not promote content creation.
New Fitting Window | Exact Distances Above 10km | Remove all inactive contacts |
Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
183
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Posted - 2014.06.19 07:00:00 -
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No.
Why the hell should jump freighters be able to jump from HS station to HS station? This doesn't even touch on 0.0 logistics. 0 risk for huge rewards? Yeah cause THAT sure fits with Eves game model.
No.
Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever.
SolidX > i'm an alt IRL
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Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
2723
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Posted - 2014.06.19 07:11:00 -
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Because any kind of regional market variation is bad, right? |
Laura Agathon
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.19 07:30:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:No
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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
331
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:00:00 -
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Long Answer: The ability to bypass virtually any and all dangers towards your target destination is an unbalanced ideal that would consequently act s a negative factor towards the jump freighter community, which would been seen as disdain and priority targettting towards such ships by any party (even more so than current), regardless of otherwise more valuable targets in their vicinity.
Short Answer: No, its not balanced for EVE. They removed hi sec cynos in for a reason.
Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
4007
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:19:00 -
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Just in case the sentiment towards your proposal is unclear....
HELL NO!
Now, you might wonder why? It is pretty simple: Jump logistics already bypass the majority of risks when moving from point A to B. A properly place cyno will land you within docking range where they can wait out the 10 second session change timer before docking, all while enjoying targeting immunity. The ONLY danger a JF pilot has when jumping from point A to B is from cyno placement incompetence and/or hostile ships that bump you out of docking range within that 10 second window. Cyno's in highsec would bypass these last two risks.... at the expense of a noobship cyno? You won't find much support for this, as it violates the risk vs reward game paradigm.
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Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
280
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:57:00 -
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Taking what is already one of the most risk-free and outright overpowered class of ships in the game and then giving them enormous buffs?
To quote a number of others in this thread: NO.
Also anyone wanna start a bet on whether the OP is a troll? |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
441
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:59:00 -
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What after buffing JFs to 1 mil ehp you want highsec cynos?
All these buffs not enough?
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Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
190
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Posted - 2014.06.19 09:12:00 -
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Sounds like a reasonable idea.
Jump mechs have never been update since the introduction of hs allowed JFs.
As long as the cost is correclty managed.
There is already jump fuel costs for moving freight via JF.
Maybe a jump tax that has to be paid by the JF corporaion each time a ship land in high sec system based on the system security.
Payment will be taken immediatelly and lack of funds will result in flaggging timer and attack by faction police. |
Milla Stenier-Tian
CareBear Refrigerated Transport Inc
3
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Posted - 2014.06.19 09:19:00 -
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As a JF pilote : what about no ?
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De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies
The Unthinkables
2250
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Posted - 2014.06.19 12:41:00 -
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Maximum Entropy wrote:How to post in "Features and Ideas" subforum:
Just write "no."
Don't need to give a reason.
Just say "no" to change. Because people with autism hate change.
Actually these simple responses stem not from autism, but from people suggesting the same asstarded ideas fifty and sixty times without bothering to research the idea to see if it's maybe already been suggested and shot the **** down. We're just tired of having to repeat ourselves.
GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies
The Unthinkables
2250
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Posted - 2014.06.19 12:42:00 -
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Dav Varan wrote:Sounds like a reasonable idea.
Jump mechs have never been update since the introduction of hs allowed JFs.
As long as the cost is correclty managed.
There is already jump fuel costs for moving freight via JF.
Maybe a jump tax that has to be paid by the JF corporaion each time a ship land in high sec system based on the system security.
Payment will be taken immediatelly and lack of funds will result in flaggging timer and attack by faction police.
Something along the lines of
0.5 - 500M
0.6 - 1000M
0.7 - 2000M
0.8 - 3000M
0.9 - 4000M
1.0 - 5000M
reason for this is to stop all bulk freight for profit being moved by JF therfore eleminating standard freighters.
Logistics jumps and back which are allready 99.99% risk free if managed correcly would stil be viable as these cost levels.
I know I would happily pay 40M to get my JF docked back up after a supply run without having to **** around scouting it back in , so I can get on and do the things i actually want to do.
I adjusted the costs in your suggestion to be more in line with the amount of protection you're offering the freighters. Seriously, do you people realize this idea would make normal freighters completely useless except for parts to build jump freighters? Why wouldn't I just jump from Hek to Jita instead of flying through all those inconvenient gates where I might get ganked? You're making Jump freighters 99.999% unkillable, and that's just a bad bad idea.
GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
Marsha Mallow
1104
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Posted - 2014.06.19 13:39:00 -
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No.
Simpler solution: ban JFs from highsec altogether. Because I live in lowsec, and uhm. Well, that's it really.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:40:00 -
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I removed a reply to an edited out part of the quoted post.
ISD Ezwal
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
Forged of Fire
487
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:43:00 -
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No. This is a terribly unbalanced idea. Additionally, it would be far better if you could not jump out of highsec to a cyno. Every JF should have to take at least one gate in order to jump.
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