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Simeon Tregarth
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Posted - 2003.09.27 04:13:00 -
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I am a cruiser pilot just beginning to think about battleships. What is your favorite battleship and why? Thanks!
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Righteous X
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Posted - 2003.09.27 04:28:00 -
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Raw power means Apocalypse, and I like raw power 
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Morgan Zypher
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Posted - 2003.09.27 04:36:00 -
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The Scorpion casue i can jam any other bs heh.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.27 04:52:00 -
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Tempest because:
2003.09.27 03:05:32combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 1087.3 damage.
2003.09.27 03:05:33combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 1022.3 damage.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Lola
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Posted - 2003.09.27 06:02:00 -
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That's pretty massive damage Jash. Too bad about the RoF. Then again you didn't use any cap to do that and your range is awesome...
For looks I like the Megathron or possibly the Raven. I got to see a Raven decloak and I had a flashback of being a child watching the StarTrek movie. The cloaking was on the chaos server.
For PvP the Scorpion is king with all those mid slots. There is just so much you can do with it.
For PvE and mining the Apocalypse would seen to be the best. You have all those turrets and a bonus to energy weapons. It's nice not to have to keep ammo on hand when in deep space.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.27 06:18:00 -
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That's pretty massive damage Jash. Too bad about the RoF. Then again you didn't use any cap to do that and your range is awesome...
The RoF is tolerable at 13s atm, tho I'm training Minmatar Battleship 4 right now. Then Rapid Fire 4 and 5. So I'll see what happens when those two are done. And those two hits were done at about 30km, the first with EMP L and the 2nd with Titanium Sabot L. Obviously the poor Sansha never got a chance to play with the 1200s. They wreck from about 580-700.
Range-wise, I just wish there were more situations requiring firing from 60km+. Would be worth going 4/4 with cruise missiles and torpedos if there were. Which is why I like the Tempest: long range bombardment
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Sphalerite
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Posted - 2003.09.27 06:49:00 -
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While I'm partial to my Scorpion, If I could have a friend follow me around in any battleship, I'd have them in a Tempest.
Every other battleship has a couple of things they are great for, and 1 or 2 things that they suck at. The Tempest isn't the best ship for any single task, but its always in the top 2 or 3.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:37:00 -
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Scorpion. Mmmm medslots...
*updates his signature pic*
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.09.27 15:30:00 -
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Scorpion. It doesn't matter if your opponent deals three times the damage you do, when he cannot get a target lock...
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |
Macumba
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Posted - 2003.09.27 17:26:00 -
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The Tempest. Like Jash has already pointed out they're fast becoming the kings of long range damage dealing.
They're not without their faults, but with some decent skills and modules they can dish it out.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.27 17:46:00 -
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For PvP i use scorp
For PvE i use apoc
And soon ill buy a Raven for fun on agent missions.
(overkill)
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PoXiE
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Posted - 2003.09.27 17:49:00 -
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i use a megathron with energy weapons. i do 250-600dmg a shot and i have 4 firing every 6.43 seconds. i hurt.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.27 19:40:00 -
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i use a megathron with energy weapons. i do 250-600dmg a shot and i have 4 firing every 6.43 seconds. i hurt.
Till those tachs suck you dry and you're left with someone still alive and pounding the crap out of you
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Black Lung
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Posted - 2003.09.27 20:23:00 -
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Its kind of hard judging which bship I like. But for looks, definetly the megathron.
I also like the Apoc. I havent looked too much into the scorpion so I dont know if I like that ship. Kind of like the idea of the enemy not having a target lock and warp scrambled and webified while I kill them!
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Rising Sin
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Posted - 2003.09.27 20:41:00 -
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Gotta go with the Tempest - projectiles kick more ass than most people think, and you can use all that cap for EW or defensive mods.
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Other Minion
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Posted - 2003.09.27 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: Other Minion on 27/09/2003 23:02:13
For looks the prize has to go the the Armageddon and Apoc. I don't mean pretty but I mean that b-ship look. The armageddon looks like a battle hardener warship, and the apoc looks like its the emporers personal ship.
But also the Raven looks really good. It has that scifi movie look.
The Dom and the Mega bother look to pretty. Unscratched and all bright and shinny. Look more like toys or parade floats then war machines.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.27 23:27:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 28/09/2003 00:18:20
The only ship which actually makes me think of a navy battleship is the Megathron.
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.09.27 23:57:00 -
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Bah, this isn't water but space. That ship looks bloated. In RL it would be one big target. From all directions it has a large profile. A long slender ship had advantages.
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Znaei
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Posted - 2003.09.28 00:48:00 -
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Dont have much comparison, but I own a Scorp so I must say that is my fav. Until I try out the rest atleast. 
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Rebell
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Posted - 2003.09.28 01:27:00 -
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For looks and combat, I like the Dominix because it is a great all around ship.
For mining, I like the Armageddon because it has the best (Mining Power to Cost) ratio.
For pvp, I would be interested in exploring the Ravend and Scorpion.
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SOHAIL
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Posted - 2003.09.28 04:54:00 -
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my Favourite is RAVEN bcuz i can use 6 Heavy Launchers with Torps on it :) , leave my opponent no chance to stay any longer.....
"We'll show them what FIREPOWER is all about" |
Mazer
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Posted - 2003.09.28 05:11:00 -
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My favorite is the Megathron becuase its very good combat ship, alright miner, and its the best looking :)
For pure PvP I'd go Raven or Scorpion
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Centauri
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Posted - 2003.09.28 05:36:00 -
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I love the Armageddon, and happen to own one.
Anyone else think it looks like the Nautilus submarine from 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea?
Centauri,
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2003.09.28 05:50:00 -
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I've got an Apocolypse and it's the best buy I've made in game. It's an awesome ship for all round activities deals fantastic damage with all those turrets in action and is a great miner (shame to use it as such).
For pvp though I've just bought a Scorp, those medium slots are amazingly useful.
Raven and Tempest are next on the shopping list though.
Eve Blacklight Style
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.28 11:02:00 -
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It has to be the scorpion.
No other lone ship can win against a well fitted out scorp.
Medium slots rule, and like someone said, all those big guns cant do much if u are jammed.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.09.28 11:05:00 -
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Raven for looks, though I still prefer the Scorpion overall as far as combat.. couldn't help myself and got a Raven though, it just looks so damn cool. :)
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Kreator
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Posted - 2003.09.28 11:29:00 -
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I love my Apoc except for the capacitor loads. Mega beams and Tachyons drain it quick but skills training is the key to really making any BS a moving arsenal
Fun, FUN - Who said this be bloody fun.
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2003.09.28 15:09:00 -
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I really like my Arm/Apoc because of its damage! but i cant win over a scorp that are good fitted!
But when we go to war we are large battles, then others do the EW with there scorps :D
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Troezar
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Posted - 2003.09.28 21:46:00 -
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Well I am surprised just how much damage a Megathron can do at range, just ask Kreator about the battering I gave his Apoc!!! And intesting 1 shot from a neutron took half a corp mates Blackbirds shields, he asked me to stop firing pretty quickly...
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2003.09.29 16:38:00 -
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Megathron.
Why?
7 425 mm railguns wrecking damage at an optimal range of 50-60 km (even more with modules) every 5-6 seconds.
1 or 2 cruise missile launchers. Kick the baby. (maybe drop a 425 for it).
10 wasps or ogres wrecking havoc. Don't underestimate drones, it still takes some smartbomb shots to take them out, and after that, you just send new drones if your DI isnt on lvl 5 ;)
It's even got room left for weapon upgrades :)
And, as everyone said, it's the best looking :D
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Marte
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Marte on 29/09/2003 17:53:51
Just a comment: Fighting in a battleship alone is dangerous and dumb, you always go with at least 2 cruisers or another BS... So you need to see what you are planning to do best as support...
The Tempest is a great ship but something bothers me... if you compare it to the Typhoon it has an extra medium slot but less cpu (weird), and one less low slot, so how useful is that medium slot and specially if you lose one low slot with a cpu enhancer to be able to use the 5 medium slots? Mean while his little brother, the Typhoon, you can still use 4 1400 guns 4 missiles launchers and have in your drone cargo 14 heavy drones... The best of all, everyone thinks your Typhoon is trash (maybe because it looks like a trash can) but let me tell you, if you find one of this ships with some other back ships cruisers, things can get dirty... They have the same fire power as his big brother the Tempest and 2 times the amount of dronesą
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:52:00 -
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Just a comment: Fighting in a battleship alone is dangerous and dumb, you always go with at least 2 cruisers or another BS... So you need to see what you are planning to do best as support...
The Tempest is a great ship but something bothers me... if you compare it to the Typhoon it has an extra medium slot but less cpu (weird), and one less low slot, so how useful is that medium slot and specially if you lose one low slot with a cpu enhancer to be able to use the 5 medium slots? Mean while in the Typhoon you can still use 4 1400 guns 4 missiles launchers and have in your drone cargo 14 heavy drones... The best of all, everyone thinks your Typhoon is trash (maybe because it looks like a trash can) but let me tell you if you find one of this ships well with some other back ships cruisers, things can get dirty... They have the same fire power as his big brother the Tempest 2 times the amount of dronesą
tempest has the BEST bonus in game :)
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Marte on 29/09/2003 17:53:51
Just a comment: Fighting in a battleship alone is dangerous and dumb, you always go with at least 2 cruisers or another BS... So you need to see what you are planning to do best as support...
The Tempest is a great ship but something bothers me... if you compare it to the Typhoon it has an extra medium slot but less cpu (weird), and one less low slot, so how useful is that medium slot and specially if you lose one low slot with a cpu enhancer to be able to use the 5 medium slots? Mean while his little brother, the Typhoon, you can still use 4 1400 guns 4 missiles launchers and have in your drone cargo 14 heavy drones... The best of all, everyone thinks your Typhoon is trash (maybe because it looks like a trash can) but let me tell you, if you find one of this ships with some other back ships cruisers, things can get dirty... They have the same fire power as his big brother the Tempest and 2 times the amount of dronesą
With skills, which still can be improved, and 3 gyros the damage modifier on a stock 1400mm is 8.9x and the RoF is 12.3s.
That's what the Tempest's little brother can't do.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Marte
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Posted - 2003.09.29 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Marte on 29/09/2003 19:17:10
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Edited by: Marte on 29/09/2003 17:53:51
Just a comment: Fighting in a battleship alone is dangerous and dumb, you always go with at least 2 cruisers or another BS... So you need to see what you are planning to do best as support...
The Tempest is a great ship but something bothers me... if you compare it to the Typhoon it has an extra medium slot but less cpu (weird), and one less low slot, so how useful is that medium slot and specially if you lose one low slot with a cpu enhancer to be able to use the 5 medium slots? Mean while his little brother, the Typhoon, you can still use 4 1400 guns 4 missiles launchers and have in your drone cargo 14 heavy drones... The best of all, everyone thinks your Typhoon is trash (maybe because it looks like a trash can) but let me tell you, if you find one of this ships with some other back ships cruisers, things can get dirty... They have the same fire power as his big brother the Tempest and 2 times the amount of dronesą
With skills, which still can be improved, and 3 gyros the damage modifier on a stock 1400mm is 8.9x and the RoF is 12.3s.
That's what the Tempest's little brother can't do.
That is my point... I know the Typhoon looks like a garbage can, dirty... but I think is a better ship than the dominix and the Armagedon and is more usefull than these ships when fighting as a group... But I guess the looks are more important, Some people will say their ship was destroyed but it was a better looking ship
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.29 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Marte on 29/09/2003 19:17:10
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With skills, which still can be improved, and 3 gyros the damage modifier on a stock 1400mm is 8.9x and the RoF is 12.3s.
That's what the Tempest's little brother can't do.
That is my point... I know the Typhoon looks like a garbage can, dirty... but I think is a better ship than the dominix and the Armagedon and is more usefull than these ships when fighting as a group... But I guess the looks are more important, Some people will say their ship was destroyed but it was a better looking ship
You miss the point I think. The Typhoon is a very capable battleship. But the Tempest will outdamage its little Brother with skill investment. Also because of the larger shields and armor, there's more padding to improve on via skills and modules.
I give up drone space for more configurability. It's a fair trade.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Rising Sin
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Posted - 2003.09.29 23:10:00 -
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Megathron.
Why?
7 425 mm railguns wrecking damage at an optimal range of 50-60 km (even more with modules) every 5-6 seconds.
I can't recall the PG reqs of the 425mm but I'm pretty sure you couldn't come close to fitting 7 of them on a Megathron. Not that the Megathron isn't an awesome ship - mount with an MWD and as many neutron blasters as you can with some IONs to spare, and you have yourself a Scorp-killer. Actually, only the Raven, Tempest, or Typhoon could take on a short-range equipped Megathron, and they would have to be equipping mostly missiles.
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Ashton Black
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Posted - 2003.09.29 23:49:00 -
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Hmmm scorp..... Then Apoc... Then Mega.
If I had JUST one .... Apoc then mine for the scorp!!
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2003.10.01 12:27:00 -
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Megathron.
Why?
7 425 mm railguns wrecking damage at an optimal range of 50-60 km (even more with modules) every 5-6 seconds.
I can't recall the PG reqs of the 425mm but I'm pretty sure you couldn't come close to fitting 7 of them on a Megathron. Not that the Megathron isn't an awesome ship - mount with an MWD and as many neutron blasters as you can with some IONs to spare, and you have yourself a Scorp-killer. Actually, only the Raven, Tempest, or Typhoon could take on a short-range equipped Megathron, and they would have to be equipping mostly missiles.
Well, it IS possible to mount 6 or 7 425 rails on a mega.
I got electronics and engeneering on lvl 4, which gives me 660 cpu and 14400 powercore to start with. Equip qith 3 power diags en 2 reactor control units to get over 20 GW powercore.... thats enough for 7 of the big ass heavy railguns, with power to spare, especially if you put reactor controil units instead of power diags on it. Cpu doesnt pose a problem either, since i canfit a cpu enhancer to take care of any problems that might emerge.
Put a cruise missile launcheror torpedo launcher with it and you got a nice shooting platform at range :)
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Vile Requiem
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Posted - 2003.10.01 16:53:00 -
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All you EW fanatics, what do you do when your unstoppable Scorpion encounters another battleship pilot that was smart enough to equip sensor upgrades and CAN target you and CAN annihilate you with their superior firepower?
Scorpion sucks, alot.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.10.01 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Presidio on 01/10/2003 17:14:43
Best all around ship. Has to be the tempest.
It can deal awesome damage with an awesome stamina for long engagements. It's a tactical ship.
It does take alot of training to be able to use it at it's full potential.
Like all non caldari ship, it should always have a scorpion pilot as it's wingman, if going after other caldari ships.
Scorpion is the most versatile in the game but it lacks the firepower, a scorpion should always be teamed up with a ship that can deal alot of damage.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.10.01 17:27:00 -
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All you EW fanatics, what do you do when your unstoppable Scorpion encounters another battleship pilot that was smart enough to equip sensor upgrades and CAN target you and CAN annihilate you with their superior firepower?
Scorpion sucks, alot.
How many sensor boosters? 4, 5?
Everything EW isn't ECM modules, you know. 
I'd recommend 4 sensor boosters for fighting a scorpion at close range, just in case he's using dampeners. Also, be sure to get your sensor strength at least past 21.
Not a very easy task to do both, eh?
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.10.01 18:09:00 -
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All you EW fanatics, what do you do when your unstoppable Scorpion encounters another battleship pilot that was smart enough to equip sensor upgrades and CAN target you and CAN annihilate you with their superior firepower?
Scorpion sucks, alot.
How many sensor boosters? 4, 5?
Everything EW isn't ECM modules, you know.
I'd recommend 4 sensor boosters for fighting a scorpion at close range, just in case he's using dampeners. Also, be sure to get your sensor strength at least past 21.
Not a very easy task to do both, eh?
If your in a large fleet you can use sensor dampners and ecm...
You need about 2 sensor booster a sensor dampner i heard...
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Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2003.10.02 01:53:00 -
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For the pilot with mediocre skills, all lvl 1 BSs are BETTER. To the pilot who has uber skills, the Raven and Tempest. Overall, Dominix.
You can easily outlast your opponent OR backup your wingman in a Dom. Nobody really knows what your gonna be running and you have elbow room with the drone space to make up for only having 6 uppers.
But be warned... Don't fly it unless you can afford to loose it. Furthermore, don't take risks if you don't have the skills to give you the edge.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.10.02 10:20:00 -
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Personally I'm flying my armageddon at the moment, mostly because I spent the time getting drone interfacing and the apoc has a smaller drone bay. Once my surgical and large laser both reach 4 I'll probably be going back to my apoc. Since the patch gave the apoc an extra low slot I'm not sure the arma has the edge over the apoc except in drone bay size and insurance cost - oh and it looks better too :-).
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.10.02 11:12:00 -
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All you EW fanatics, what do you do when your unstoppable Scorpion encounters another battleship pilot that was smart enough to equip sensor upgrades and CAN target you and CAN annihilate you with their superior firepower?
Scorpion sucks, alot.
A most battleship pilots aren't smart.
B people don't want to lose 2 lowslots for ecm.
C sensor dampers. Dear god who uses ecm??? (unless u in a fleet with ships configed for specific roles)
Scorpion doesn't suck.... pilots who don't know how to config scorps suck. There is a distinct difference.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.10.02 11:20:00 -
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All you EW fanatics, what do you do when your unstoppable Scorpion encounters another battleship pilot that was smart enough to equip sensor upgrades and CAN target you and CAN annihilate you with their superior firepower?
Scorpion sucks, alot.
Wow this is the dumbest post I've seen in a while. 4 ECM Modules can reduce your sensor strength to -24, wtf is going to save you from that? What is going to save you from 4 sensor dampeners if he stays 10-15km away from you? (Scorpion is a fairly battleship).
I can go on about how deadly a Scorpion pilot is in the right hands but I won't. Scorpion is the best PvP ship in this game. If there is ONE single ship I don't want to deal with in this game one on one, it's a Scorpion.. they are nasty, they can disable you so easy.. best you can do is load up a Raven with FOF missles and force it to flee.
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MarcoHall
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Posted - 2003.10.06 11:23:00 -
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Apoc is fine!!2003.10.02 23:45:13 combat Your Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 991.1 damage.
2003.10.01 22:05:02 combat Your Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 935.2 damage
Greets MarcoHall
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SirOmega
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Posted - 2003.10.10 13:01:00 -
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The Raven/Tempest bar none, sure the Scorpion is the EW king, but NO amount of jamming will stop a continuous onslaught of heavy FOF's. Everyone in game KNOWS that the ONLY reason for owning a Scorp is EW, so after I upgraded to Raven, I loaded heavy FOF's and never met a Scorp that would stick around long enough to finish the fight. The Minmatar Tempest is the same ship as the Raven only with Projectile bonus instead of missile bonus. As far as mining is concerned, well the ONLY ship to get is the Apocolypse, 8 Miner II's can't be wrong.
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vyperpit
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Posted - 2003.10.10 14:13:00 -
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for genral looks even though it is not the greatest i would have to say the megathron.
but for killing and pvp gotta be the raven great ship.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.10.10 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 10/10/2003 14:40:04
... nm.. Replied to the wrong thread..
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2003.10.10 14:46:00 -
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All though I have a Raven and it hits hard.
I have had a bloody nose from a Dominix and seen the Dom bloody the scorpion until he ran.
Thanks
EvilDoomer
Chicago Mobsters
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Polux
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Posted - 2003.10.13 12:00:00 -
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Personaly I like the Raven. I don't have one but getting one today. Everyone is saying all thoughs big guns can't hurt the Scorpion coz of the jamming. THEN HOW ABOUT TO USE SOME OF THEY MED SLOTS FOR SENSORE BOOST. I think that the worst nightmare is the have a ship that it can't jamm. I am no pro but on a Blackbird it hurt when you can't jamm the oponant.
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