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Bourgeoisvio
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:05:00 -
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Alright, I give up. How do you survive gate snipers from vaporizing you instantly at 197km with 1400mm guns?
Thanks to the sensor boosters improving range AND lock on time (bonuses that really need to be seperated), they can sit well out of sentry gun range, insta-lock even an interceptor with <30m signature, and pop you before you reach the gate despite travelling at speeds of 1+km/s.
Besides fitting a MWD on an interceptor (and making you an even bigger target for those massive guns), how do you get passed these guys? You can't approach them and deal with them, you can't outrun them, and the sentry guns cant touch them. So what's a traveller to do? Please don't just say "instas". DUH (some low sec systems are so often camped that even getting instas there is a problem.
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Deadeye Dave
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:09:00 -
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If your wanting to kill him I would say Force Recons to lock him down and kill. If your wanting to get past without instas and your saying Interceptors with MWDs arent working you could try Covert Ops Frigs or Force Recons.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:10:00 -
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Warp out before the sniper gets a lock or fit plates and/or nanos and pray.
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:18:00 -
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T2 ammo for the lose.
Aside from that though, there's serveral ways.
A covert ops can fly right up to them, then your mate in a megapulse geddon can jump in, warp straight on top of the Tempest and ***** him open.
Before you decloak, have a look where the Tempest is. Is it in line with any celestial objects? Yes? Then 1 or two warps and a BM or two will enable you to warp right on top of him.
Does he come here often? If he does then bookmark where he sits and again you can warp in top of him.
One thing to consider is that to pop you at that range he'll be sacrificing most if not all of his midslots, and likely be unable to run a tank in his lowslots, so if you do get close, you can nail him. In addition the T2 ammo has a nasty tracking penalty, but generally if he's using +range modules they also improve tracking, which can go some way to compensate.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:21:00 -
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Pay them 
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing Pay them 
Better to whine on the forums about T2 long range ammo being completely whacked than paying them :) Paying them would only encourage them.
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: HippoKing Pay them 
Better to whine on the forums about T2 long range ammo being completely whacked than paying them :) Paying them would only encourage them.
i get 170km range with t1 ammo... quite ur whining... oh you cant do anything when ur dead
so gl tryna get outa my sights Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |

Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson
Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: HippoKing Pay them 
Better to whine on the forums about T2 long range ammo being completely whacked than paying them :) Paying them would only encourage them.
i get 170km range with t1 ammo... quite ur whining... oh you cant do anything when ur dead
so gl tryna get outa my sights
Yes, 170KM range, and what can you kill with that, before it enters warp?
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:28:00 -
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err anything upto cruisers

and if ur having problems with t2 ammo then u are either flying a crap ship or have a crap setup Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |

Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson err anything upto cruisers

and if ur having problems with t2 ammo then u are either flying a crap ship or have a crap setup
So you mean you can lock down a frigate, shuttle, pod or destroyer, and kill it with T1 ammo before it gets into warp?
Congratulations, you're a liar!
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CardboardSword42
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:30:00 -
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1) Put a MWD on an interceptor, unless you have something really clever in mind putting an afterburner on a ceptor is horribly stupid 2) Instas 3) Warp out? There aren't 150km+ warp disruptors
I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:31:00 -
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yup 450mm rail guns do wonders Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |

HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm Paying them would only encourage them.
/hits head against desk.
no, no, no, no, NO! This is worst reason to not pay ransoms or to pay your way through camps ever 
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson yup 450mm rail guns do wonders
You're making it up.
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:35:00 -
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well i had over 100kills in 2 hours in my home system once we out killed rancer  Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |

Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Stamm Paying them would only encourage them.
/hits head against desk.
no, no, no, no, NO! This is worst reason to not pay ransoms or to pay your way through camps ever 
I wasn't really being serious.
But I might consider it if I was warp scrambled, but a sniper? I'd take my chances and warp off, especially if it was the guy claiming to kill everything under a cruiser at 170KM with tech 1 ammo.
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Stamm Paying them would only encourage them.
/hits head against desk.
no, no, no, no, NO! This is worst reason to not pay ransoms or to pay your way through camps ever 
I wasn't really being serious.
But I might consider it if I was warp scrambled, but a sniper? I'd take my chances and warp off, especially if it was the guy claiming to kill everything under a cruiser at 170KM with tech 1 ammo.
you noob u wana come test out my sniperthron to see if im right? Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |

Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson
Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Stamm Paying them would only encourage them.
/hits head against desk.
no, no, no, no, NO! This is worst reason to not pay ransoms or to pay your way through camps ever 
I wasn't really being serious.
But I might consider it if I was warp scrambled, but a sniper? I'd take my chances and warp off, especially if it was the guy claiming to kill everything under a cruiser at 170KM with tech 1 ammo.
you noob u wana come test out my sniperthron to see if im right?
If you're up north I will. But I'm not going miles out of my way to prove you wrong.
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Shigsy mya
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:39:00 -
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ever been threw rancer? we are right near there and no im not wrong if you like i will post u all 214 kill mails ive had over the last month u can check em if u like but trust me a sniperthron with t1 ammo at 170km can kill just about any frigate or destroyer... only the lucky ones escape
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:41:00 -
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Holy crap you actually managed to kill a bunch of frigates in your battleship?!?! Now that's what I call PVP  --------------------------- What can I put here without getting banned? |

XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:43:00 -
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lol well since im using t1 ammo i cant kill much more... all that will change in 20 days  Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |

Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy mya ever been threw rancer? we are right near there and no im not wrong if you like i will post u all 214 kill mails ive had over the last month u can check em if u like but trust me a sniperthron with t1 ammo at 170km can kill just about any frigate or destroyer... only the lucky ones escape
Evemail me a few, or give me a link where I can see them.
And if you really want, I'll come down in a destroyer, frigate, shuttle or shuttle - you choose. I'll jump through the gate, If your Megathron with rails and T1 ammo sitting 170KM off the gate kills me I'll give you 1 billion ISK. If I enter warp, I get 1 billion ISK from you. We'll choose a neutral to hold the money before we do it. You only use the megathron, no bubbles, cans to bump me, other ships etc.
Fancy losing 1bil?
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson lol well since im using t1 ammo i cant kill much more... all that will change in 20 days 
I was being sarcastic, sniping frigates in low sec is for noobs. --------------------------- What can I put here without getting banned? |

MadGaz
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:50:00 -
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Oh and to reply to the op, get in some force recons and wait until you've got a chance to nab them. --------------------------- What can I put here without getting banned? |

XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 22:22:00 -
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its more of a bordem thing... eve does get quite boring Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |

Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.17 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson
you noob u wana come test out my sniperthron to see if im right?
Yes please,
I'll be back in EvE in about 5 days and would be happy to approach you from 170 km in a tech 1 frigate.
If you arent stabbed up with light drones I may even blow you up.
@the OP. A sniping bs with t2 ammo should never kill a ceptor if the pilot knows what they are doing. A nanofibered indy can also get away if the pilot does not panic and its only 1 bs.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.17 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: XGS Crimson here and il stick 30 rounds of t1 ammo in ur hull before u can click ur warp button.
oh and most times when people gate snipe its people going to the gate not coming out of it... noob.
30 rounds, thats 4 and a bit vollies.
Thats more than 20 seconds with maxed skills (which you dont have.
Stop talking rubbish mr "sniper god"
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 22:27:00 -
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uhuh well i get around 80 dps with rails and i have 7 of em Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |

XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 22:28:00 -
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each Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |

XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.06.17 22:29:00 -
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im not guna give away my setup secrets but 4 vollys with a sniperthron is easy..... Signature removed, please resize it to meet the 400x120 pixel and 24000 bytes max rules. Yours is currently 464x65 and 28702 bytes. - Ivan K |
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