Then surely you should be celebrating the Code, Marmites and the organisations they and other gankers/wardeccers have built around their activities?

They also dislike the easy-mode playstyle of bots and people in highsec that have a general disregard for their own safety.

So if I understand you correctly, you want this feature in order to use against people who get ganked because they are playing the game on easy-mode. I think the title of your thread might be a little misleading then.

Have you considered buying a permit from a New Order agent? At 10m per year, it's a real bargain.

Your logic is contrived.

I like the idea. Or maybe set tax brackets for bad standings. Basically you can charge more based on standings or sec status.

Seems like a lot of trouble for a feature that is made meaningless by the existence of alts.

I like the idea. Or maybe set tax brackets for bad standings. Basically you can charge more based on standings or sec status.

Ah, so for the best prices I should only shop on my no-pvp 5.0 sec status alt.

And this solves what exactly?

Why do you people say, "It can easily be circumvented with alts," like that's a bad thing? More people needing more alts is good for CCP, and what's good for CCP is good for EVE.

Why do you people say, "It can easily be circumvented with alts," like that's a bad thing? More people needing more alts is good for CCP, and what's good for CCP is good for EVE.

Is 5.0 sec so easy to achieve that literally every ganker has such an alt? A system like the one proposed here increases the value of "lawful" characters, be they alts or mains. Why is that a problem?

If you were an automobile manufacturer IRL would you sell your cars to a guy who has a record of using those cars to nudge lorries off the road, or cause horrific traffic accidents on purpose? NO! Why can we not do the same thing?

I think any and all of us could circumvent it with our existing complement of alts.. so lots of coding work for CCP with no new driver for more accounts.

It punishes players who go into low sec to kill pirates (say that pirate has repaired his sec status, the 'good guy' shooting him will take a sec hit in low for killing a bad guy and as a result would have to pay more in high sec to replace lost ships).

Is 5.0 sec so easy to achieve that literally every ganker has such an alt?

A system like the one proposed here increases the value of "lawful" characters, be they alts or mains. Why is that a problem?

Why do you people say, "It can easily be circumvented with alts," like that's a bad thing? More people needing more alts is good for CCP, and what's good for CCP is good for EVE.

Yep. I can't speak for "literally every ganker", but myself and every ganker (and most of the wardecers) I hang out with has them, yeah. Gotta run locators somehow.



It's not a problem. It's merely pointing out a gaping flaw in your proposal.

That being, that it would have no functional effect besides making things more of a pain in the ass for new players. It has often puzzled me why every "proposal" people come up with to combat the theoretical problem of ganking would almost always have the effect of sharply discouraging new players in some aspect of the game.

Yep. I can't speak for "literally every ganker", but myself and every ganker (and most of the wardecers) I hang out with has them, yeah. Gotta run locators somehow.

It's not a problem. It's merely pointing out a gaping flaw in your proposal.

That being, that it would have no functional effect besides making things more of a pain in the ass for new players. It has often puzzled me why every "proposal" people come up with to combat the theoretical problem of ganking would almost always have the effect of sharply discouraging new players in some aspect of the game.

New players come in at -10 sec status now? No sane marketeer looking for profit would limit by sec status over 0.0 security, since that eliminates a huge chunk of buyers.

If a new player chooses to wreck his sec status I don't see why he should be exempt from the same consequences older players face.

I don't actually have a carebearing or mining alt. -.-

It also takes a huge amount of arrogance for people to think that they could come up with an idea that would work as intended in an enetertainment product used by thousands upon thousands of very creative and dastardly gamers.

But not all of your sisters are at negative sec status either? Surely at least 1 of them is at 0.0

Plus, being the friendly type that you are, even if you were all at -10.0, you'd easliy be able to make an arrangement with someone for your market needs.

So far nobody has proposed anything that invalidates the idea's usefulness.

Let them run out of their little dessies. See what they do then. If we're lucky, they'll all migrate to Elder Scrolls Online,
and we can go back to what we do best here.

Let them run out of their little dessies. See what they do then. If we're lucky, they'll all migrate to Elder Scrolls Online,
and we can go back to what we do best here.