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Bushido
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Posted - 2003.09.27 11:13:00 -
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They live in best Region since week 1
They closed it and podkilled entire galaxy for 4 months
They had miner II free in Stain.
Now they want Curse , Too
And Tomorrow ? Verge Vendor ?
They are ostile PKs and now is time to stop them.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.27 11:23:00 -
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They live in best Region since week 1
This has set the tone for the rest of your rant. Jealous?
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They closed it and podkilled entire galaxy for 4 months
SA are good but we're not quite good enough to podkill the entire Eve universe.
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They had miner II free in Stain.
True. So what? We got it through an Event that we participated in AND lost battleships taking.
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Now they want Curse , Too
Not true. Curse is on Stains borders and we will not tolerate pirates hassling travellers to our region. Pro-active defence is NOT piracy.
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And Tomorrow ? Verge Vendor ?
Where?
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They are ostile PKs and now is time to stop them.
We're hostile only to pk'ers and yeah, they've tried stopping us too.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Daron Arnise
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Posted - 2003.09.27 11:24:00 -
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I agree partly...
And how exactly do you intend to stop them?
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Daron Arnise
Intaki Sovereignty Tribunus |
Happy Shopper
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Posted - 2003.09.27 11:31:00 -
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Stain have no intention of taking over Curse, Stains only intentions are to rid curse of sinister/RUS/m0o and all their followers. By remaining in curse you take your life in your own hands. Only the corps who cried for salvation will be spared from the 70 BS strong fleet mounting on the Curse border, those who thought they would wait to see who won before choosing sides will be crushed along with the pirate scum.
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Bushido
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Posted - 2003.09.27 11:56:00 -
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Sorry but corps in Curse would like to mine and hunt quitely.
Synister/Russ allow us to mine and grow like you did in Stain.
You don't allow to mine in Stain and even fly. Sorry you lie to other people with the story of Curse clean!
Bushido |
Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.09.27 11:57:00 -
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I'll stop them!
I'll steal their Ore!
I'll...erm....take stuff they...uh...jettison!
Yes, Stain will fall. 
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:09:00 -
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ROFL
STAIN SCUM,
Your guys doesnt really mean you are fighting vs Pkers. YOU GUYS ARE PKs. But really n00bish ones.
I was one time in stain with 2 guys of our corp. we had no negative sec status not someone was involved in any pk activites before. to the point it was our first trip too 0.0 space.
We looked for the npc rats there . flying a bit to the belt what ore there was and were going bad to the station to check the market. we noticed that 2 battleships of a corp called 'The Collective' warped in as we docked.
we undocked and this n00bs opened fire with out ANY talk or warning ... well we had 3 BBs and dampered down on of this 'PK hunters'
well we warped a bit in this system and 5 more BSs arrived.
I make it short after 5 hours we logged somewhere in space. because this guys were so noobish in their tries to get us.
You guys can only win with your combat skills the 'Mickey Mouse Award'
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CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:20:00 -
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Joshua;
You seem like a reasonable person, so I will ask you this. Since you argue that you don't want pirates on your border, why is it that Stain attacked us PRIOR to Sin/m0o joing the Curse Alliance? All we wanted to do was be left alone to mine and build in peace, yet your corporations started attacking us for no reason. Before MASS started attacking us, what 'pirates' were in Curse? Perhaps you consider the large number of Minmatar corps here pirates?
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 27/09/2003 12:28:18
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Joshua;
You seem like a reasonable person, so I will ask you this. Since you argue that you don't want pirates on your border, why is it that Stain attacked us PRIOR to Sin/m0o joing the Curse Alliance? All we wanted to do was be left alone to mine and build in peace, yet your corporations started attacking us for no reason. Before MASS started attacking us, what 'pirates' were in Curse? Perhaps you consider the large number of Minmatar corps here pirates?
MASS has been at formal war with RED CORSAIRS for a long time. We were in Curse to fight them. We found Shinra and VOTF both camping gates and mining along Red Corsairs. They were added to our KOS list.
At this time, I myself had several convo's with citizens of Curse. And they were happy to see us coming for these corps. As some of the corps didn't like to have Curse a warzone, an ultimatum was given to Curse: Make Red Corsairs surrender to us and we will stay out of Curse.
Instead, your choice was to form a bigger alliance and bring Sinister into it. You have none but yourself to blame.
And now it's time to pay for your choice.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:26:00 -
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MASS weren't roleplaying? 
Convert Stations
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:29:00 -
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You simply added them to your kill on sight list for them associating with Red Corsairs without this being done towards directly hurting you?
There's some intense diplomacy for you. 
Convert Stations
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Rust
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:30:00 -
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Sorry but corps in Curse would like to mine and hunt quitely.
Synister/Russ allow us to mine and grow like you did in Stain.
You don't allow to mine in Stain and even fly. Sorry you lie to other people with the story of Curse clean!
We are formally at war with RUS, if we had the slots we would be at war with Sinister. We attack each other when ever and where ever we can. RUS and Sinister have formed an allience with a number of Corps in Curse (for added protection? - they fight all other alliences because they are alliences), and we are on their KOS list.
If you look at the map you will see that we have to go through curse if we wish to pick up skills etc. Are you surprised that we wil not tolerate a large force of pirates waiting there to kill us as we pass?
You may accept threats from pirates, and be willing to risk blockades whenever you travel - we will not. We also have the means to crush them entirely. We want safe passage through Curse - and if we had friendly neighbours we would have no need or interest in controlling anything that went on in Curse.
To those Corps in Curse who do not want to be assocciated with this pirate band - come out and say so!
So far Sinister have had the pleasure (which we share) of us coming in small groups to PvP. That has meant we have had to travel far and attack lagged jump in points to have some fighting. However, they now come next door to us, and present a real threat to our normal activities.
I feel this is a very big mistake for them. They will now see the true strenth of SA and those that appose greifers and noob killers. When large forces of BSs are searching the area 24/7 they will lose most of their ships trying to get to lag points.
I predict that any real force will be out of curse within a couple of days. If they stay and fight (which I hope, but think is highly unlikely) they will be back in crusiers within 2 weeks, and some of SA will regret losing the odd rare modual.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:35:00 -
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You simply added them to your kill on sight list for them associating with Red Corsairs without this being done towards directly hurting you?
There's some intense diplomacy for you.
As I said, they camped gates with Red Corsairs. When we warped in and attacked Red Corsairs, Shinra and VOTF defended Red Corsairs.
Shinra has also held blockades in Catch. This is of course unacceptable.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 27/09/2003 12:58:42
Thanks for the clarification. As originally posted it didn't say if the others effectivelly sided with Red Corsairs. It still doesn't tell us whether or not they were made aware of the existing state of war and given an option.
Convert Stations
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olernoz
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:53:00 -
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Joshua;
Perhaps you consider the large number of Minmatar corps here pirates?
don't give them another excuse to attack you, sarkos
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Astik Stfgar
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Posted - 2003.09.27 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Astik Stfgar on 27/09/2003 12:59:39
Hi all, i'm a member of one of the Curse Alliance Corps.
Just yesterday I friendly told some neutral people to leave for their own safety, because Stain was going to fight us and kill everyone on their route.
They where interested in having commerce with us, and this will surely be the case once the situation will be clear.
I made them go out of the region, they are safe, and they will contact the Alliance to make an agreement positive for both of us.
This is just one of the examples of WHAT the CURSE ALLIANCE actually is.
Not a pot of mad people which just want their own private spacehouse, and kill everyone entering it; but an alliance of Corps made to secure a region from PKers like Stains, openminded to commerce with other corps.
Sure there are PKers among us too, but i believe that also in Stain there are intelligent spacemen... although they are surely a small and betrayed minority.
Hope to have clarified the situation a bit.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:01:00 -
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Ah, the intaki information minister, we've been expecting you.
Convert Stations
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lorenzo
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:07:00 -
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by RUST
We want safe passage through Curse
LOL, don't you think that every single player in EVE would LOVE to get safe entrance to stain?
LOL
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Rust
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 27/09/2003 12:58:42
Thanks for the clarification. As originally posted it didn't say if the others effectivelly sided with Red Corsairs. It still doesn't tell us whether or not they were made aware of the existing state of war and given an option.
We contacted forces that were fighting with the Red Corsairs. We were then told that the Red Corsairs wanted to stop being a pirate corp and work with corps that had until that time been on neutral if not friendly terms with MASS.
Since we are officially at war with the Red corsairs it was agreed that the best thing to do was for the Red Corsairs to surrender to us so we could end the war. We were happy to do this, and were pleased that the Red Corsairs had seemingly taken a different direction.
We then were informed that not only were the Red Corsairs not going to surrender, but we were now KOS to all of them.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:10:00 -
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Not a pot of mad people which just want their own private spacehouse, and kill everyone entering it; but an alliance of Corps made to secure a region from PKers like Stains, openminded to commerce with other corps.
You guys still don't get it. SA podkill people. But not innocent people. Inside Stain people without a standing with SA are told to leave. Those who come here and whine are those who said like "FO, I go wherever I want, and you n00bz can't get my battleship anyway, cause I am the king". Then their little battleships are blown up, and they come here to whine.
SA travels outside Stain to hunt people on our KOS list. Some of these set up their base in Curse. I hope you understand that we can not tolerate them having their base so close to us. You could have told them to get out of Curse and founded an honest and good alliance in Curse. Instead you formed an alliance with people on our KOS list.
Time to pay for your choice.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Rust
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Astik Stfgar on 27/09/2003 12:59:39
Hi all, i'm a member of one of the Curse Alliance Corps.
Just yesterday I friendly told some neutral people to leave for their own safety, because Stain was going to fight us and kill everyone on their route.
They where interested in having commerce with us, and this will surely be the case once the situation will be clear.
I made them go out of the region, they are safe, and they will contact the Alliance to make an agreement positive for both of us.
This is just one of the examples of WHAT the CURSE ALLIANCE actually is.
Not a pot of mad people which just want their own private spacehouse, and kill everyone entering it; but an alliance of Corps made to secure a region from PKers like Stains, openminded to commerce with other corps.
Sure there are PKers among us too, but i believe that also in Stain there are intelligent spacemen... although they are surely a small and betrayed minority.
Hope to have clarified the situation a bit.
Does ANYONE believe that if Sinister - Red Corsairs - et al, take control of Curse they will look after miners??????
Perhaps they will also arrange for Herod to pop round for a bit of baby sitting.
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Bushido
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:20:00 -
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We have a fact, other thinks are words :
Stain region is closed by SA
in Curse there are 35 SA pilots full armed.
if you reader have a brain you can not have doubt about who is defending and who is attacking.
Bushido |
dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:21:00 -
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We want safe passage through Curse
LOL, don't you think that every single player in EVE would LOVE to get safe entrance to stain?
LOL
If you only could get a look at our list with standings. The numbers of corporations with hunting pass in Stain are biiiiiig. And there are also corps which are allowed to mine in the regions below Stain.
Unfortunately, with the current situation with Curse and the high military alert in Stain, it's easier for all those corps to stay out of Stain atm. This also makes it kind of impossible for us to process new applications for hunting passes atm.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Rust
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:21:00 -
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We want safe passage through Curse
LOL, don't you think that every single player in EVE would LOVE to get safe entrance to stain?
LOL
I take your point. For me EVE is about controlling resources, and we have concentrated on doing that, and building a power base from day one. I can see that those not in SA object to us doing that (though I hope they understand why we do it, and see it as a valid ploy in the game).
Sinister have concentrated on killing everyone they can, as long as it is virtually risk free. These two approaches are now going to clash, and it will be interesting to see who had the better long term plan.
You can come into Stain safely if it is aranged, though I know that is not really what you mean. For us we have to leave Stain and go to Curse to continue playing the game. Stain is a dead end, and though annoying to you, is not essential.
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Astik Stfgar
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Posted - 2003.09.27 13:59:00 -
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Sure sure!
Stain big good bro!
Sure!
Infact i was podded in an harmless shuttle without any warning... Not to point that at that time i didn't even know that was a closed space...
So who's good and who's bad?
Best arrangement is that -> NOW <- we are both bad guys, but Stain has been a bed guy longer than us.
Now let's see who's gonna be the bad one longer...
A blimp nearing on your radar... |
Thalen Mort
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Posted - 2003.09.27 14:03:00 -
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What would you be doing in 0.0 space in a shuttle? As stain is dead end space you would not have been in transit to anywhere.
Just curious....
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Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Uber Miner
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Posted - 2003.09.27 14:07:00 -
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Whats funny is that you can be the biggest bully on a deserted block. How long do you think Eve will survive at this rate? Just curious. These regional alliances will be the final nail in the coffin.
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Astik Stfgar
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Posted - 2003.09.27 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Astik Stfgar on 27/09/2003 14:11:17
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What would you be doing in 0.0 space in a shuttle? As stain is dead end space you would not have been in transit to anywhere.
As i said: at that time i didn't even know that was closed space.
I noticed a large amount (about 6) of players in a system really close to the empire, and went looking.
I was a fool at the time sure!
I did even join gang 
But they killed me anyway 
A blimp nearing on your radar... |
dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.27 14:14:00 -
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Whats funny is that you can be the biggest bully on a deserted block. How long do you think Eve will survive at this rate? Just curious. These regional alliances will be the final nail in the coffin.
lol. Eve is about controlling space. As all games are. And Stain alliance has existed a loooong time.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Thalia
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Posted - 2003.09.27 14:29:00 -
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Please stop posting BS about final nails in coffins.
Waht would you f...ing want?
Free minerals and everyting else?
To get somepace you have to put effort in it.
And you guys act like (CCP to blame) that if you whine enough you will be entitled to it.
Curse is big base and jumpoint for many pirates and pkers.
From there they go to attacks in Stain, Khanid, and Catch.
And then you act like idiots when big force enters Curse.
How old are you??? When you never learned that there is nothing free.
You keep mining for Sinister & Co's battleships and they will keep attacking.
They will keep losing them and you won't have any fun.
In the world of wild there are hunters and there is pray.
Unfortunately corps in Curse have chosen to play prey when they allowed PKing scum to take over and to dictates them how are things gonna be.
FFS watch some history channel or read some book.
In each war there are parts of domestic population that decides to collebarate with enemy and in almost all cases punishment is quick and harsh.
Now stop whining.
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