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Davmi Costo
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Posted - 2006.06.21 08:38:00 -
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You just don't understand CCP's plan - aware that there is too much isk in the universe they needed a good solid isk sink that would pour billions of isk out of the game, from rich and poor players alike without hurting anyone.
The answer? Voluntary donations of isk from players who can afford it to players who have GTCs. The player receiving the isk buys a posh faction ship (no skills for t2) and gets it blown up on the first visit to low sec.
It's beautiful, it really is 
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Calleb
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Posted - 2006.06.21 08:51:00 -
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TBH I can see that CCP will not want to shoot the goose that lays the golden egg, but from a poor, average sort of player who has been in the game pretty much since the started this means of getting isk is totally ruining the game. Its wrong that rich IRL means rich in game. Wheres the skill in that?
Its causing hyper inflation on the rare items or in fact any item in game that is any good. This is good if you have loads of them to sell, but not if you want to buy. Hopefully something will be done to slow down this reallocation of wealth, but I seriously doubt it.
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HailGail
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Posted - 2006.06.21 09:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Davmi Costo
You just don't understand CCP's plan - aware that there is too much isk in the universe they needed a good solid isk sink that would pour billions of isk out of the game, from rich and poor players alike without hurting anyone.
The answer? Voluntary donations of isk from players who can afford it to players who have GTCs. The player receiving the isk buys a posh faction ship (no skills for t2) and gets it blown up on the first visit to low sec.
It's beautiful, it really is
Thats not an isk sink, a player buying a faction ship from another player does not make any isk leave the game, it just gives that isk to the other player, an isk sink is when isk leaves the game permanently, out of all players reach, never to return, like buying a titan bpo for 50 billion isk from an npc corp is an isk sink because that 50 billion goes out of game.
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fuze
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Posted - 2006.06.21 13:14:00 -
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CCP can't afford to allow isk sales for $$$ because that will ruin the game indefinately.
CCP make more $$$ by having GTC and keeping banning ebay sales anyway.
Its just that some people are paying for someone elses subscription.
They have more time to play anyway so in fact they are just the extension of some richer player.
CCP should cap the GTC sales in such a way people won't abuse it too much and don't go shop on ebay. But they can't restrain abuse similar to ebay sales as well. That's just reality we all have to life with.
For me it's quite simple. The minute you buy a GTC/on ebay you admit you've lost playing the game and anything you achieve in game is pointless anyway. |
Surly Bob
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Posted - 2006.06.21 13:22:00 -
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Get it through your heads, people! ISK IS VALUELESS! Any alliance (and alliances are the only players who matter in Eve) who controls so much as a constellation in 0.0 or a handfull of t2 ship BPOs has so much ISK, that they don't know what to do with it. The only resource that they are ever looking for is pilots - good ones, pref. but noobs will do. That's why they keep telling you how great 0.0 is and piling on, every time missions get screwed over and people legitimately complain.
They also pile on to threads like this, because GTCs allow them to run 10 alt accounts and super-specialize all of their characters. Oh yeah, and those 15 characters researching mechanical engineering would have to go bye-bye, if they had to start paying $15/month like most of the poor *******s that they are always telling to "adapt".
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.06.21 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: WhiteTiger
Now I understand that some people believe that gathering isk is the 'fun' part of eve and have no interest in buying isk for real $$, however others would rather just blow stuff up. Assuming the blow stuff up crowd have a decent rl job and don't have hanger full of uber t2 bpos, I think the math clear points to selling GTC for isk instead of bothering with the isk grinding. Also is a valid way to raise capital to start big isk generating projects so later on you can use the isk to buy GTC and play for free (i.e. get back the money you invested buying isk)
This attitude is a big problem in this game. It's a virtual world (at least CCP claim it to be). It's not some shooty-shooty game. There's many things in Eve that are not fun, but doing them leads you to your goal and the success is much more sweeter when you actually work for it.
Mining is dull? Yes, so, may be we should be able to fill our hangars with minerals by buying them by our RL cash? Fitting ships is boring, let's have all modules delivered to us instantly after a small RL payment. Hell, why to have ISK at all. Let's substitute it with RL $$$ and roll on. You want that battleship to appear in your hangar with such and such fittings? Pay us $15 and it's there. Nice game, isn't it?
Finally, I have only one more thing to say. For ppl who consider things that give Eve depth and unique flavour boring and grinding and can't stay that, l'd advise to go to play Counterstrike. Shoot as much as you wish, blow staff up as much as you wish, don't ever worry about economic and industrial side of the game, and leave us, Eve players, alone.
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Kay Brack
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Posted - 2006.06.21 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Surly Bob
Get it through your heads, people! ISK IS VALUELESS! Any alliance (and alliances are the only players who matter in Eve) who controls so much as a constellation in 0.0 or a handfull of t2 ship BPOs has so much ISK, that they don't know what to do with it. The only resource that they are ever looking for is pilots - good ones, pref. but noobs will do. That's why they keep telling you how great 0.0 is and piling on, every time missions get screwed over and people legitimately complain.
They also pile on to threads like this, because GTCs allow them to run 10 alt accounts and super-specialize all of their characters. Oh yeah, and those 15 characters researching mechanical engineering would have to go bye-bye, if they had to start paying $15/month like most of the poor *******s that they are always telling to "adapt".
QFT this "roleplay" game claims to have 20k users. I bet if ccp was honest about the connected IP's you would find probably 5k to 7k play this game. Every other thread some yahoo talks about his "cloaked alt" or "hauler alt". Eve is becomming a house of cards. At some point you folks will wake up to find you are playing the game with 7 other people all who have 100 chars and eve will be dead.
In EQ people used to "2box" also seems some people just cant handle not having an edge.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.06.22 05:31:00 -
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I think I have said this before but when I played certain midsized MUD eons ago, there was a possibility to donate cash for new server and whatnot. When you donated you gained so called PDFs (Permament Divine Favors (sp?)). By these PDFs you could make your life easier but still not overboost yourself compared to others.
Sadly, this isn't an option in EVE 
Unnerf Amarr!
"Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
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Maximillian Pele
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Posted - 2006.06.22 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
I think I have said this before but when I played certain midsized MUD eons ago, there was a possibility to donate cash for new server and whatnot. When you donated you gained so called PDFs (Permament Divine Favors (sp?)). By these PDFs you could make your life easier but still not overboost yourself compared to others.
Sadly, this isn't an option in EVE
Yes it is????
You just send Vodka to the Devs and join BoB. Didn't you read the memo???
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2006.06.22 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Cell Satimo
Edited by: Cell Satimo on 19/06/2006 18:17:53
GTC is great.
- CCP Get a bite of the RL Trade.
- ISK Rich, $ poor people can continue to play.
- The most boring activities (Ice Mining and Low mineral mining) is outsourced to 3rd world countries, who lets face it, need the money.
- $Rich/ISK poor people don't get any power in EvE anyway, because ISK won't get you success in EvE, just a loong reserve till you lose it all.
- It saved me >$800 on Account subscriptions in 2006, which basically gets me a free EON subscription and free Card Game.
Long live GTC!
Edit: .. On a seperate Sell order forums and pls. make the game codes exchangable for credit on the Eve-Store directly.
Being rich in eve due to having lots of RL cash is simply unfair, the whole point of an rpg mmo is that you immerse yourself in a new world not inheritly link it to your current payroll. Your CEO with billions of isk could be on the doll in RL, ild hate to see an eve where RL wealth is effecting ingame isk :(.
Also the risk of a noob having brough billions of isk because hes rich then just buy up a bunch of bpos and start hoarding isk that way is equally screwed up. Also when you consider the possible option for macro miners in buying mining accounts using an initally your own money from GTC's and then being able to start a massive mining op the next day. Its bad enough with t2 bpo owners getting easy isk, thats a lottery at least. The whole fact that you work for isk and that the isk matters to you is what makes pvp in this game so interesting.
GTC unbalance everything and remove the immersion this game is so good at.
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.06.22 08:07:00 -
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Edited by: mazzilliu on 22/06/2006 08:12:55
Originally by: Kay Brack
QFT this "roleplay" game claims to have 20k users. I bet if ccp was honest about the connected IP's you would find probably 5k to 7k play this game. Every other thread some yahoo talks about his "cloaked alt" or "hauler alt". Eve is becomming a house of cards. At some point you folks will wake up to find you are playing the game with 7 other people all who have 100 chars and eve will be dead.
In EQ people used to "2box" also seems some people just cant handle not having an edge.
we are all BoB alts, fighting wars and ganking other BoB alts, because all our BoB mains are bored while bombing regions with titans or whatever they do in the north.
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.06.22 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn666
Being rich in eve due to having lots of RL cash is simply unfair, the whole point of an rpg mmo is that you immerse yourself in a new world not inheritly link it to your current payroll. Your CEO with billions of isk could be on the doll in RL, ild hate to see an eve where RL wealth is effecting ingame isk :(.
Also the risk of a noob having brough billions of isk because hes rich then just buy up a bunch of bpos and start hoarding isk that way is equally screwed up. Also when you consider the possible option for macro miners in buying mining accounts using an initally your own money from GTC's and then being able to start a massive mining op the next day. Its bad enough with t2 bpo owners getting easy isk, thats a lottery at least. The whole fact that you work for isk and that the isk matters to you is what makes pvp in this game so interesting.
GTC unbalance everything and remove the immersion this game is so good at.
QFT. What's the point of putting effort in game when some rich kiddo with his mommy's platinum visa will outrun you in a single hour.
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