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Yukfoo
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Yukfoo on 19/06/2006 20:35:24
Edited by: Yukfoo on 19/06/2006 20:33:32
Hey, just a heads up.
Bought a battleship on Escrow, and it was in zero space. I went to go pick it up, and it was at a player owned station. Long story short, I didn't have access to the station because it is restricted. The guild says "Tough Sheeeot". After it was reported to the CCP, they said "Tough Sheeeot, you should be more careful!"
Are you flippin kiddin me? Cmon CCP, this is a total bug, and yet they will do NOTHING about it. So, I will never EVER use escrow again. I know that there are bugs in any game, but I just spent 130mil isk for NOTHING! And they will not raise a hand to help out!
They cannot even police their own game. I'm VERY disappointed!
So, I've decided I'm going to go blow that station sky high to get some "satisfaction". 
I'm not a whiner, just sending out a warning to any and all. Buyer beware. Seller? Well.. PODS taste like chicken!
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SGXiphias
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:39:00 -
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CCP wont reimburse you because it has nothing to do on there end, The escrow shows wich station/system that it is it. You can easily search and find out if its a player owned station. On top of that, mabye if you ask nicely, they will let you dock and get it, otherwise just put it back up on escrow for the same price from another station.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:42:00 -
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No sympathy on these forums I'm afraid. You bought a ship for other the odds in someone else's owned station, intended to be sold for their use.
Your stupidity is not a bug, and CCP have no obligation to fix that.
You are whining, no matter if you say "I'm not a whiner" at the end.
As for destroying the station, I'm sure you'll have fun trying.
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W1rst23n2r
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:42:00 -
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Dunno where this outpost is, but you should be
having much more luck, if you contact the ceo of that seller and explain the situation.
He might be forcing that player at least to giving you the ISK back.
It's worse a try ??!!
http://eve.battleclinic.com/kill_sigs/signature_display.php?string=Dr%20Pinghttp
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Minsc
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:43:00 -
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This is in no way a bug. You could have easily saw that it was located at a player owned station and not bought that escrow. You got scammed, live and learn.
Oh, and why were you buying a BS off of escrow for 130 mill in the first place? It's very possible that you could have gotten a better deal buying off the market.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:43:00 -
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you can put the BS back on escrow, maybe a little bit cheaper and if someon buys it you get your money back.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:44:00 -
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You can put it back on escrow (for a small loss if necessary) but yes - it's up to you to make sure you can get hold of the stuff you just bought. Sympathy, perhaps, for making a mistake due to inexperience, but no reimbursement. EVE's a tough learning school.
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Yukfoo
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:46:00 -
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Hippo,
Screw U. I'm not asking for sympathy. I'm not even asking for your opinion. I was just merely warning people. Big difference. I'll get mine from them, one way or another.
And, actually guys, I did ask the CEO and was laughed at. I was very nice about things, thinking that there was a mistake. Anyways, I'm not new to this game, just never ran across this yet.
Thanks for the help guys. Except you Hippo..
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Dust Angel
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:48:00 -
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you paied 130m for abattle ship? they sell for like around 110 on the market at most. you got double ripped m8
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Yukfoo
Hippo,
Screw U. I'm not asking for sympathy. I'm not even asking for your opinion. I was just merely warning people. Big difference. I'll get mine from them, one way or another.
And, actually guys, I did ask the CEO and was laughed at. I was very nice about things, thinking that there was a mistake. Anyways, I'm not new to this game, just never ran across this yet.
Thanks for the help guys. Except you Hippo..
<3 you too.
Next time you get hit by something, I hope you take it better.
As for me, you may soon learn that in Eve, if someone screws you over or does something you don't like, its almost always possible to shoot them.
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Yukfoo
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Angel
you paied 130m for abattle ship? they sell for like around 110 on the market at most. you got double ripped m8
Fully equipped. Ready to roll. Sorry, should have explained that.
Like I said Hippo, I was just looking to inform people, not get any kind of sympathy. I never really used the escrow before, and now I know why.
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:56:00 -
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! Buyer beware !
When you buy an Apocalypse, you also need skills for energy thingies to shoot at other thingies. It doesn't say so in the Apocalypse skill requirements.
Are you flippin kiddin me? Cmon CCP, this is a total bug, and yet they will do NOTHING about it.
AT LEAST PUT THINGS LIKE THESE ON THE BACK OF THE BOX
I will cancel all my 1 accounts now!
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.19 20:57:00 -
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Had you just come to warn people, you would have encountered no animosity from me.
Lets just recap some salient points of the OP, shall we?
Originally by: Yukfoo
Are you flippin kiddin me? Cmon CCP, this is a total bug, and yet they will do NOTHING about it. So, I will never EVER use escrow again. I know that there are bugs in any game, but I just spent 130mil isk for NOTHING! And they will not raise a hand to help out!
They cannot even police their own game. I'm VERY disappointed!
There is no bug, and CCP have no reason to help you. Live with it. You bought something which was exactly where it said it was. What were you expecting, a magic teleport out?
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Dinique
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:00:00 -
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Ha ha dumbass
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There's so many different worlds
So many different suns
And we have just one world
But we live in different ones
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Yukfoo
Originally by: Dust Angel
you paied 130m for abattle ship? they sell for like around 110 on the market at most. you got double ripped m8
Fully equipped. Ready to roll.
Apparently not.
Location, location and location are important...
Since everyone else is pointing fingers and laughing I'll try to help. Why not speak to someone from the alliance and ask for standings so you dont get blown up and can dock at the stn?
Think of it as an opportunity
Or you could accuse CCP of being stupid because you did not check you could get to the location...
Who owns the stn by the way?
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Yukfoo
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:11:00 -
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Listen Hippo.. screw u. I really don't care what you, or anyone, think. I was merely making a public statement to try to save some people some heartache. I have money to burn, although I don't like to. I'm taking my lumps, but you my friend are just being spiteful and pretty much a ****.
Yes, I got screwed. I'm not denying that. I'm trying to save people from the same thing. It's called public service. I should get a flippin medal! 
Anyways, people, just check the station before you buy from escrow. Don't buy from player owned stations.
Hippo, I'm gunna put you on my "FRIENDS" list in game....
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:16:00 -
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Congrats, you're learning, bit by bit.
If you hate me for the rest of your life, I'll be glad you learnt the lesson you learned today.
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Thoth Athena
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:20:00 -
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what you should get is a dose of valium. You start off the thread accusing CCP of there being a bug, there is no such bug, nor was there any fault in the trade. You, the buyer, did not fully inspect what you were purchasing, this is no different to many things on escrow. Just to even suggest that CCP should reimburse you or assist you at all is absurd.
I feel I've made my point, so I'll end on that note, no doubt to get further flaming from yourself.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Yukfoo
Hippo, I'm gunna put you on my "FRIENDS" list in game....
He's no doubt putting you on his "can't quite manage to purchase and board a big ship so isn't a threat" list
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Yukfoo
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:23:00 -
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I'm done talking to you guys..
Please, just BUYER BEWARE! Make sure that you check the station that you are buying from.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Yukfoo
Listen Hippo.. screw u.
hey hippo, theres a guy named yukfoowho wants to screw you 
and yukfoo, your name seems to be an attempt to circumvent the language filter.
Originally by: F'nog
This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Yukfoo
Listen Hippo.. screw u.
hey hippo, theres a guy named yukfoowho wants to screw you
I'd huk fim anyday
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Splagada
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Splagada on 19/06/2006 21:29:17
edit : ahhh you said escrow buyer beware
then it's a good call
i thought "eve buyer beware"
but it's not a bug
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Yukfoo
I'm done talking to you guys..
What a loss.
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:29:00 -
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You are a whiner and you are whining right now. Crying bacause you didn't look where the bs was in the first place.
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:38:00 -
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Savvy Customer Tip #453
"Don't buy a car that has to be picked up in an active warzone. Public transportation rarely functions there, and running through a hail of bullets might offset the benefit of buying the cheaper car due to risk of death."
Savvy Customer Tip #454
"Don't buy land on the moon. Craters are worthless real estate."
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Freada
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:42:00 -
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Give him a break. He is a product of todays society where if you do something stupid its not your fault and the law or the government or someone should fix it.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.06.19 21:48:00 -
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Just enter the ship right back into escrow at a small markdown and your loss isn't too bad if someone buys it.
What's way worse is that if someone buys an escrow the people who sell it can't see who claimed it, so they can't contact their buyers with an offer to buy the item back if it's not reachable...
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Antaris Xenal
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Posted - 2006.06.19 22:01:00 -
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lol, this guy is definetly on my KoS list for being a moron XD
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Waragha
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Posted - 2006.06.19 22:01:00 -
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Buyers beware in EVE, if you can't handle it - please leave..
This is not a game for you....
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.06.19 22:05:00 -
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i bought a super cheap dread gurista shield boost amp for like 40mil once in a station i had no docking rights at so i just put it back up for 60mil and it sold 2 days later >_>
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LCIceo
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Posted - 2006.06.19 22:06:00 -
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Why are you so desperate to *snip* hippoking? Whats so especial about him?
Please remain courteous - thx Pirlouit
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.06.19 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: LCIceo
Why are you so desperate to screw hippoking? Whats so especial about him?
he could have a thing for caldari forum spammers
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Yukfoo
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Posted - 2006.06.19 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Antaris Xenal
lol, this guy is definetly on my KoS list for being a moron XD
You need to bring that mess BEEOTCH!
You wanna man up?
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SGXiphias
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Posted - 2006.06.19 22:30:00 -
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lol.. this whole thread should go on omgrawr.net
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Southern Kros
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Posted - 2006.06.19 22:45:00 -
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I need a laugh, thank god I found this post.
Yukfoo, you made a mistake.
Solution 1.
Join the corp/alliance who own the Outpost and collect your BS.
Solution 2.
Create a new escrow and sell the BS. BS in 0.0 space are in demand and some folks will pay over the odds.
It is not a scam or exploite, just a simple mistake on your part. Live and learn.
Good Luck
PS
As for offering sexual favors to Hippo and others its not a good idea, you just don't know where they been.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2006.06.19 22:47:00 -
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Yukfoo, you made a mistake, live with it.
It's not ccp's fault, its not the seller fault, its your own.
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Belgariad I
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:14:00 -
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Hippo King is going to beat Dark Shakira for most posts, i think.
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Oktain
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:19:00 -
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Will you be coming after Hippo before or after you blow up that station...? lol
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Inertia Foryu
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Inertia Foryu on 19/06/2006 23:30:22
I almost made a similar mistake. When I checked to see where the ship + modules were located (a player owned station), I just didn't buy it.
Which brings me to ask that player owned stations also be identified by thier location. I ended up going on eve search forums to try and determine what sys it actually resides in.
Anyway, be smart. Fly safe.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:33:00 -
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This situation is much like going to a cafe wanting a salad. Instead you order french fries, then complain about it... And to make it more simular, the waiter would have to come out with a big sign saying...
You are about to order french fries! Are you sure that you want to order French fries?
The funny thing is, I'm not at all surprised, this happens all the time. I once worked in a resterant, and yes, people are that dumb... Like the people who are alergic to shell-fish and order the Surf and Turf. Or the constant stream of people who don't like onions, then order Liver and Onions.
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Oscar Clay
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:38:00 -
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Stories like these make me wonder if whoever designed the "escrow" system in EVE actually knows what an escrow service in real life is. AS it stands now, it's basically just a second market window with a little added potential for scamming shenanigans. There is no impartial third party escrow agent involved.
Here, CCP; you might find this article helpful.
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:46:00 -
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i once bought a cyclone for 18m at a bob station, i put it back up on escrow for 22m and it sold like, 20 hours later 
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Originally by: Wrangler
Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote.. 
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.06.19 23:52:00 -
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Somewhere in the game menu is a clicky button to turn "Noobishness" off. That should help...
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Vikram Bedi
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Posted - 2006.06.20 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Oscar Clay
Stories like these make me wonder if whoever designed the "escrow" system in EVE actually knows what an escrow service in real life is. AS it stands now, it's basically just a second market window with a little added potential for scamming shenanigans. There is no impartial third party escrow agent involved.
Here, CCP; you might find this article helpful.
qft... the fact that you can escrow an item, then shoot the person who comes to pick it up, *and the playerbase blames the buyer* really reinforces the point.
But then, anyone who's buying a BS should know that, so it really comes down to semantics.
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Sieges
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Posted - 2006.06.20 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Oscar Clay
Stories like these make me wonder if whoever designed the "escrow" system in EVE actually knows what an escrow service in real life is. AS it stands now, it's basically just a second market window with a little added potential for scamming shenanigans. There is no impartial third party escrow agent involved.
Here, CCP; you might find this article helpful.
Good article. It would be better if they called it the "gray market" or something. Escrow implies some sort of saftey.
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.06.20 05:07:00 -
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Perhaps you should stay away from "Public Service Announcements" moving forward..
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.20 05:08:00 -
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i designate today the day of the whingers they have certaily come out of the woodwork thats for sure
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Sadist
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Posted - 2006.06.20 05:54:00 -
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I dont see why the op couldnt just escrow it back on the station at a discount and come out with like 5 mil loss which is peanuts. 
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Burr
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Posted - 2006.06.20 05:57:00 -
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No comment.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.20 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: LCIceo
Why are you so desperate to *snip* hippoking? Whats so especial about him?
I am teh sex
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Glassback
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Posted - 2006.06.20 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Yukfoo
Edited by: Yukfoo on 19/06/2006 20:35:24
Edited by: Yukfoo on 19/06/2006 20:33:32
Hey, just a heads up.
Bought a battleship on Escrow, and it was in zero space. I went to go pick it up, and it was at a player owned station. Long story short, I didn't have access to the station because it is restricted. The guild says "Tough Sheeeot". After it was reported to the CCP, they said "Tough Sheeeot, you should be more careful!"
Are you flippin kiddin me? Cmon CCP, this is a total bug, and yet they will do NOTHING about it. So, I will never EVER use escrow again. I know that there are bugs in any game, but I just spent 130mil isk for NOTHING! And they will not raise a hand to help out!
They cannot even police their own game. I'm VERY disappointed!
So, I've decided I'm going to go blow that station sky high to get some "satisfaction".
I'm not a whiner, just sending out a warning to any and all. Buyer beware. Seller? Well.. PODS taste like chicken!
So just how were you planning to get a BS out from 0.0 with no standings?
G.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2006.06.20 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
There is no bug, and CCP have no reason to help you. Live with it. You bought something which was exactly where it said it was. What were you expecting, a magic teleport out?
Bug or not, it is a lame way to make money. Agents warn you when you need to go to low sec, the market warns you when you pay too much ... so whay not a warning when you buy something in low sec? If you check the little box "don't show me this again" ... well, then the user is at fault.
Inconsistent user interface behavior is a bug, the developer chooising to accept this or not is something else. Should CPP give this guy back his money? No. One should check these things before you buy anything because we all know Eve has inconsistent UI behaviors, bugs. Anyone with 130 mil isk to toss on a BS should have been playing long enough to know better.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2006.06.20 08:03:00 -
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I bought a palace from some guy in the Internet, it cost me all my savings.
Now it turns out there's a war in that country, and I can't go live in my palace.
Are you flippin kiddin me? Cmon UN, this is a total bug, and yet they will do NOTHING about it. So, I will never EVER use eBay again. I know that there are problems in any country, but I just spent all my savings for NOTHING! And they will not raise a hand to help out!
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.20 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: HippoKing
There is no bug, and CCP have no reason to help you. Live with it. You bought something which was exactly where it said it was. What were you expecting, a magic teleport out?
Bug or not, it is a lame way to make money. Agents warn you when you need to go to low sec, the market warns you when you pay too much ... so whay not a warning when you buy something in low sec? If you check the little box "don't show me this again" ... well, then the user is at fault.
A lame way to make money? You think this guy was selling it as a scam? He was trying to sell it to allies who have docking rights, so it benefits him and his allies. I severely doubt he expected a non-friendly to buy it.
As for the warning, doesn't the "You are buying an escrow which contains ____ for ____. It expires in ____ and is located in _____" where the location is the name of a station which is clearly player owned let you in on the secret?
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.06.20 10:02:00 -
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Edited by: Rells on 20/06/2006 10:02:49
Originally by: Yukfoo
Hey, just a heads up.
Bought a battleship on Escrow, and it was in zero space. I went to go pick it up, and it was at a player owned station. Long story short....
I'm not a whiner, just sending out a warning to any and all. Buyer beware. Seller? Well.. PODS taste like chicken!
Although this was a mistake on your part, I wont flame you like others did -- there are a lot of jerks on this forum apparently. I would be interested to know what corp it was so I dont engage in any business with them.
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2006.06.20 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 20/06/2006 11:16:47
CCP is right. It's your job to check, if you can get it from there or not or if you have a friend who can bring it.
Btw. once I saw a cheap domination warp disruptor on escrow and claimed it. It was about 40-50 mil below usual price. Immediately after I'had bought it, I noticed that it was on a station of our enemy. Anyway, I tried to resell it on escrow for more, but didn't work.
Many weeks later I helped to take a station and after I docked there, I saw that item in my hangar. I had it already forgotten. Was somehow funny.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2006.06.20 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
A lame way to make money? You think this guy was selling it as a scam? He was trying to sell it to allies who have docking rights, so it benefits him and his allies. I severely doubt he expected a non-friendly to buy it.
The OP author states that he tried to speak with the seller, but was shut out, he also states he spoke with the CEO and was laughed at. Pretty strong evidence of a scam, at best, rude. If you have evidence other than what is in this thread, you can't blame me for not knowing it. :) I have no idea who these people are, it's all anonymous to me. If someone else in this thread says it was me or him or frank or sally-sue, well good. I don't read everything post in a thread either.
Originally by: HippoKing
As for the warning, doesn't the "You are buying an escrow which contains ____ for ____. It expires in ____ and is located in _____" where the location is the name of a station which is clearly player owned let you in on the secret?
Apparently, for this guy (the OP author), no. Every escrow purchase does what you describe. Just like every market order has a basic, unwarned dialog box, and yet another dialog box if there is a warning. Every mission page shows the basic mission whyto and howfor verbage, but special note is called out on low sec. The UI is not consistent in its behavior.
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Eilene Fernite
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Posted - 2006.06.20 18:14:00 -
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The UI used to be consistent in it's behaviour. There were no low sec warnings in missions, or warnings when you were about to buy something extremely overpriced.
Eve has been 'dumbed down' a lot already, let's not make it worse. If you don't pay attention to what you're doing, something bad might just happen.
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