There's an easy solution here: declare war on corps that are able and willing to fight back.

Yeah, I know, it's scary.

Cannibal Kane does Solo wardecs.

My corp only has two people and we wardec.

I'm still having a hard time bridging the logical disjunction between "Being able to wardec anyone in hisec on a whim is sound use of game mechanics" and "people with nothing to defend dodging wardecs is abuse of game mechanics".

I'm down for wardecs being meaningful but they shouldn't just be a mechanism for hisec content generators to punish people for leaving NPC corps.

I'm of the camp that if a conflict-generation mechanic is going to exist at all, it should be meaningful and not full of holes.

In its current form I see the ability to drop corp and immediately shed a wardec as nothing short of an exploit and a negative impact on wars being meaningful. I also question the ability for a character to remain in an NPC corp forever, or do so with no substantive premium in tax rates.

I think its a perfectly reasonable request for individuals dropping a corp under wardec to carry that war with them as an individual until its expiry (or one week elapses).

I would further increase NPC corp taxes greatly, to incentivize people into player corps. Another alternative would be to allow NPC corporations to be wardecced.

As further incentive to conflict, I would put wardec fees into a bucket claimable by the defender based on agressor assets killed.

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Okay you're missing the point of a wardec. Wardec is about one corporation wardecing another corporation. Not you wardecing a corporation. Eve isn't a single player game and if you can't even kill a single helpless miner how do you expect to cause any damage?

Most carebears don't jump corp because someone wardeced them. Many are oblivious to even what a wardec means. If wardecs were so ineffective why does Mermite have so many kills?

If all you want to do is gank miners just get in a destroyer and join a gank fleet. No wardec needed.

Hi. Just wanna know what is the point of war deccing a corp.
You dec them and the next day they create a new corp and all join it.
Shouldn't be allowed to drop corp for at least 2 or 3 days if the corp gets decced.

I am just n new guy learning to gank. Have had a few success's and losses

I plan to gank them just gotta train up some skills as I cant bring down the macks solo

Any ways ty for reading my whine.

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Well I wouldn't say I am a hard core ganker. This is my second dec and only 2 ganks. I have less than 3 mil skillpoints but still enjoying the game. What more is there to do in hi sec ?? ohhh wait ya mean go mine or grind mishs all day or the clicky clicky PI stuff ?? no thanks. I wanna play to have fun lol If ya want more tears I can whine about all the probs in the game but I haven't got all year and I sure you don't either lol

There's an easy solution here: declare war on corps that are able and willing to fight back.

Yeah, I know, it's scary.

Well I wouldn't say I am a hard core ganker. This is my second dec and only 2 ganks. I have less than 3 mil skillpoints but still enjoying the game. What more is there to do in hi sec ?? ohhh wait ya mean go mine or grind mishs all day or the clicky clicky PI stuff ?? no thanks. I wanna play to have fun lol If ya want more tears I can whine about all the probs in the game but I haven't got all year and I sure you don't either lol

War decs are broken and have been for as long as I have played eve. If folk want to avoid a dec they will - even if they couldnt leave their corp - all they will do is dock up for the duration and play their alts or not log in at all. To fix war decs, ccp has to give them a purpose - there must be something important/valuable that is at stake beyond just the pvp - unless the defending players feel that they have something to lose then they have no stake in the dec and will rightly come to the conclusion that why should they engage you merely to give you entertainment. Edit: I should add that the addition of POCOs was a small step in the direction of meaningful decs.

There are many players, myself included, who prefer to go for fights that result in the most win for me and the most loss for my enemy. I'd much prefer to hit my enemy in a way that presents as little risk for me as is possible.

This is due to playing a character who could care less about lofty and silly e-bushido and internet-spaceship honor and really only cares about winning.

Also, if you look at this from a RL standpoint - what military commander would really have a meeting with his generals that went something like this:

"Well, men - after our scouts and intel gathering units did their job, we see two possible ways to attack our enemy."

"The first is to take advantage of our enemy during a situation where they are mostly defenseless and will present little risk or loss of units to us, and has a nearly 100% chance to resulting in serious damage to the enemy."

"The second is to attack our enemy during a time that they are 100% combat ready, probably aware of our intentions, and will result in heavy losses on both sides. However, it will be a very honorable fight!"

I'd go with the first and also posit that any military force that really felt the second was the best move is really bad at what they do :)

And what you mean to say is ''Some people are alll about fapping over a k/d ratio and too scared to loose a ship because of that k/d ratio or because they generally truly SUCK at using their brain in a way to learn how to make easy isk without much effort.But if you enjoy that playstyle then by all means do so , allthough to me that sounds even less fun then mining and MAN mining is SO utterly boring.


Glad i could be of assistance ....

I love it when people comment on the mentality and decision making process of New Order members without any genuine conception of what actually motivates us or how we think. DJ is spot on with his statements. I too look to maximize my chance of victory using the mechanics provided. I'm not against taking risks, but I make sure that they are calculated risks. I'm not against loosing ships, but I try to avoid needlessly loosing ships. If loosing some ships is required for victory, so be it.