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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.06.20 19:11:00 -
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Can the runners please post some of the changes in todays update as they go along? Would be very helpfull.
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Ashraaf
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Posted - 2006.06.20 19:21:00 -
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Drones have a bounty and drop far less minerals
they orbit nearly at 20 km
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Saryn Lightyear
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Posted - 2006.06.20 19:50:00 -
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Ouch'd, and nerfed it is... didnt read it in the patch notes about this, so this is a *stealth nerf*?
Oh well, just about the only 2 mission I still do/did are Worlds Collide and Infiltrated Outposts. This should make me focus on doing R&D agents and log online less often.
Any stealth nerf in worlds collide? :)
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Nocturnal Prince
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Nocturnal Prince on 20/06/2006 20:12:25
Infiltrated outposts lvl 4 is now so bad that its not worth the time to loot. what did I get from a battleship drone? one lustering alloy, thats it WTF? talk about removing the point of doing the damn mission. Now you will be lucky to get 30 zyd from the whole mission. thats less than a 'normal' mission when you refine the junk 
I mean honestly!, I get more minerals when I sneeze now 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 20/06/2006 20:13:37
 Originally by: Ashraaf
Drones have a bounty and drop far less minerals
Seriously? 
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Ashraaf
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:14:00 -
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yes, and not a note in the patch
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Ronwe
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:16:00 -
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sad day in for mission runners....
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Vexoth
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:16:00 -
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Level 4 Brutor tribe Smuggler Interceptor seems to be completely different from how i remember it. I remember it being a normal mission with only a few ships but now it is a very difficult deadspace mission. The LP and ISK rewards also do not seem to be worth the difficulty. Also, "Pirate Invasion" also seems to have been turned into a deadspace mission and no longer lists what you have to kill.
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Emily Spankratchet
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:22:00 -
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I just did lvl3 "The Score" and it was a double area deadspace with gateways rather than acceleration gates. I thought it used to be a single encounter in normal space. Or am I going mad?
And Infiltrated Outposts... Noooooo! Where do I get my Zyd now?
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Dewa
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:26:00 -
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Also, Infiltrated Outposts (lvl4) is MUCH harder than it was. The second stage put out an insane amount of DPS.
My Domi tank, which normally can handle it with some stress at the beginning until I pop the damage dealers was melted twice (two warpouts) before I finally had to fit smart bombs and that barely got the damage down to where my tank could stabilize. Ugly.
That and the ~1 million in minerals I got out. <120m3. ****.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Saryn Lightyear
Ouch'd, and nerfed it is... didnt read it in the patch notes about this, so this is a *stealth nerf*?
What nerf? Instead of getting minerals you can sell for ISK, you get ISK.
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Quutar
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:30:00 -
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for some people... they counted on the minerals to offset mining
and from my understaning the bounties are farr less than the amount of mineral value
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:30:00 -
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Has the LP payout been reduced for some missions?
Now recruiting!
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Inspiration
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Inspiration on 20/06/2006 20:39:44
* Reward in loot: 12 x less (from 1800 m3 loot on average to 150 m3)
* Takes longer due to faster drones
This used to be a great mission with hard hitting supreme drone parasites. Dangerous and good reward. Then they nerfed the drones and it became a very easy mission that everyone could do, and get realy good reward.
Now they made it completely unrewarding as aparently to many people did this mission...DUH. Instead of making peeps fight for a good reward, they simple removed any good reason to do it.....period.
WTF for mindset is that? We don't play the game to do unrewarding things. Now people are even MORE dependent on macrominers and T2 BPO lottery winners.
I better stop ranting now, as things would become severly unpolite!
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Nocturnal Prince
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:33:00 -
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yes granted you get isk, however you get about 10% of the isk that the old drops where worth. Also Im noticing some guristas in feroxes now...
and no more morphite from infiltrated outposts... not a single one
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Ashraaf
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Saryn Lightyear
Ouch'd, and nerfed it is... didnt read it in the patch notes about this, so this is a *stealth nerf*?
What nerf? Instead of getting minerals you can sell for ISK, you get ISK.
Sometimes minerals (High end) are good option when you produce a lot. When you could have some Zyd, Mega and Morph out of market or alliance
I don't mind nerf, but stealth nerf not so good :(
Now i just have to go to the alliance in 0.0 to find my minerals :(
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Inspiration
WTF for mindset is that? We don't play the game to do unrewarding things. Now people are even MORE dependent on macrominers...
Heaven forbid that one of the fundamental career options in EVE should actually be kept useful. We don't want that, do we.
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Irashi
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Irashi on 20/06/2006 20:39:31
FYI, I haven't heard any complaints from 0.0 ratters, except that someone just ran into a 3 x 1.4m BS spawn and needed a hand :)
So have all high sec missions been nerfed or just the really profitable ones? *Gravy train now arriving platform one, change here for low sec and 0.0 ratting.*
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Ronwe
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:38:00 -
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yep thats the way...seems CCP wants me to marry getting a huge family so i can let my 10 kids mine in low sec with frigs...any volunters? :)
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Marcsens Lil'Helper
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Marcsens Lil''Helper on 20/06/2006 20:44:32
Edited by: Marcsens Lil''Helper on 20/06/2006 20:39:56
Some changes are just annoying and of no use at all.
In Unauthorized Military Presence (used to be a normal multi respawn mission), i have to approach the first gateway 34km before actually getting to see any enemies.
Pointless timesink
Finally within the deadspace, the two industrials i need to looot are 100km away from me. MWD's don't work in deadspace, mind you.So it's just a timesink to approach them 100km in a slow bs.
Edit: this is in 0.0
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Ronwe
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:41:00 -
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its not the isk we need its zyd isk i have enough but i dont wanne buy zyd to kepp up missile production ... thats the point ... even i u loot a pirate slaughter u just get around 400 zyd a i.o was around 4000.. :(
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:47:00 -
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If a nerf was needed then fine, but this is a tad overboard don't you think? getting 1 or two alloys from each rat is way too much of a nerf, even if the halved the original value it would have been fine.
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Nocturnal Prince
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Posted - 2006.06.20 20:59:00 -
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I dont mind a nerf tbh, the mission was too good to be true. However the double nerf of making the drones hard as hell (a MWDing drone gets hit for 3.7 damage with a T2 Rage cruise missile? wtf?) and making the whole mission become almost the least profitable level 4 is a little heavy handed imo. I'm not looking forward to checking out the rest of the missions now. Its a shame because at this time I was enjoying the mission running, mining was dull as hell and 0.0 fleet actions where both dull and frustrating (most of the time). I also do manufacture and trading but those are to fund better ships and items, not an end into themselves. I sure hope Kali delivers something worthwhile as Im rapidly getting bored of everything Im interested in getting turned to $%^&.
However, I will be checking other missions... who knows? there may be some good for us mission runners buried deep in this patch. <crosses fingers>
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Ronwe
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Posted - 2006.06.20 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Ronwe on 20/06/2006 21:13:55
Edited by: Ronwe on 20/06/2006 21:11:24
as far as i found out did CCP just change the shorter missions ... which means easy catch ones like THE SCORE...
we DiD
The Score .. old: encounter bs+cruiser New : 3 stages soloable[Hollow Asteroids =? someone knows what it puts out?)
Intercept the saboteurs.... old: some mercs +frighter small stuff
new:2 stages around 5 bs + low bounty frigs+bc+hcs!? soloable!
would be nice if u could write down ur missions and changes :)
Edited by: Ronwe on 20/06/2006 21:11:24
seems they didnt change the time for mission rewards .. 24 min to do a score with 3 stages is a little hard
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Tasugari Hautamari
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Posted - 2006.06.20 21:28:00 -
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As ever they nerf mission "because you carebear are in high sec and earn money".
Meanwhile people makes 10 times the same money macro mining or ratting in the 0.0 their alliance own.
Thanks for the people who dont want to join the big b(l)obs...
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Bodark
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Posted - 2006.06.20 21:29:00 -
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Thanks CCP, finally I have less reason to sit in front of my computer and spend more time with my family, I really appreciate the fact you are actually trying to help me quit.
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Kharo Khann
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Posted - 2006.06.20 21:30:00 -
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I got the Mordus mission:
Agent: lev +18, I have both extra connections skills at lev 4.
Rewards: 300K and 580 lp
Statement of CCP; we're gonna emphasize more on lp than on cash. With this nerf it's gonna take a year to get a navy mega offer. Yeah, well done,....
Unless you are unemployed, retired or damm lucky
Mining trit brings more :(
WTF
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Kharo Khann
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Posted - 2006.06.20 21:31:00 -
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ehh, lev 4 agent
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2006.06.20 21:33:00 -
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I'm collecting mails from fellow agentrunners on which missions that have changed and which have not. I'll update my site as fast as I can when I get the mails.
Right now it seems like the nerf feeling is bigger than the upgrade feeling.
So far:
- infiltrated is nerfed (price for high end minerals will rise again)
- rogue drones is prolly a bit better (bs's in last pocket)
- sabotage the supply line has more ore, but is rumoured to have instalocking respawns
- pirate invasion is angels now and is in deadspace (ain't sad, but angels are pain for armor tankers)
- the score is in three pockets and is sansha only. (why? the score was a meter of the simplest mission ingame goddammit!)
My guess for the next changed mission is: angel surprise will be a 10 respawn mission with a nerfbat at the last respawn  (all your modules will convert to t1 modules permanently). You need a titan "smartie" to survive.
Chepe Nolon
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Liisa
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Posted - 2006.06.20 21:35:00 -
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On the other hand:
I just did "In the midst of deadspace (4 of 5)" and when I warped to the second stage, nothing spawned (other than the 3 sentry guns) and nothing spawned the whole time I was there.
I am not sure if this was simply because I was fast (which I doubt, last time I had half the amarr navy there) or because the time based spawning is broken.
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