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Lord Spidey
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Posted - 2006.06.21 16:18:00 -
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A long time ago I lived deep in Paragon Soul well pretty much no such thing as small scale PvP existed, rather just gank fleets or ebil sansha rats. I eventually ended up making the move from there to the far more interesting Curse/Cac region where the pvp and exotic dancers were a plenty. In the past many of my greatest wins and greatest losses happened in the area of the HED pipe but I know it was always fun win or lose.
IÆve lost a Cerb while solo camping SV5 with just a medium bubble to a 30 man bob fleet. IÆve engaged in numerous small scale cruiser battles. IÆve chased an insta-ing blockade runner 12 jumps with my 7 man int gang cursing on Vent as were unable to ever catch it. IÆve looted overseer belongings from noob ships and IÆve run into FedorÆs anti frig geddon(I think) numerous times.
IÆve always had fun in the pipe, its like a lil mini syndicate where you can always go to find a lil bit of solo or small gang pvp action, whether its engaging a camp or fighting roving gangs. Lately though ive noticed a disturbing trend by some alliances to fly around with 50 man gangs and try to set gank traps. In my opinion this just isnÆt FUNàthis isnÆt what the pipe was meant to be. Obviously your choke points are going to be camped all the timeàbut by flying around in blobs that big youÆre pretty much guaranteeing you wont get a fight. Last night flying around in the pipe in a solo caracal I tried to engage another caracal and 2 ints just for ****s and giggles! Well wouldnÆt you know everyone runs away from me after exchanging a few blows and I warp off just as a 20 man gank fleet jumps in. IÆm not complaining as if thatÆs how you want to play thatÆs your deal but please donÆt complain about how you get no fights and then smack. I almost cried last night when I saw 2 domis eager to face down a tempest and domi (who ran as fast as they could despite being in a pvp op) have to safe when the not fun blob comes along without even firing a shot.
This is a little bit of a rant I suppose but I miss the good old days when I could just fly up and down the pipe and find some good fun action. So I plea to you in the areaàbring out your small gangs and kill me! Leave your large gank fleets at home one night this week and take a spin out solo or with just a few buds and a few beers! DonÆt worryàIll be waiting.
p.s. flame or not post your good pipe stories or not. Eve-O forums always amuse me @ work

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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2006.06.21 16:23:00 -
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Does anyone really give a flying **** about a crap piece of space where every turd in the universe goes to gank randoms?
Didnt think so 
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2006.06.21 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow Does anyone really give a flying **** about a crap piece of space where every turd in the universe goes to gank randoms?
Didnt think so 
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.06.21 16:26:00 -
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I had many a good time in the HED pipe
*remembers gutting a BB in OHST then escaping from 4 atuk cruisers back when i was a newb 2mil sp thorax pilot* -----
Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
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dghdfgh
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Posted - 2006.06.21 16:55:00 -
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I find it a bit ironic that you would complain about people bringing too-large gangs in the same post as you talk about chasing a defenseless blockade runner with 8 interceptors.
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FaTA1
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Posted - 2006.06.21 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: FaTA1 on 21/06/2006 17:13:23 i forgot i couldnt post. im sorry ER gods... _________________________ I came, I saw, I posted Cartiff > Welcome to E-R, if you feel something jam you in the back, its ok, thats ment to happen
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commander tycho
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Posted - 2006.06.21 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: commander tycho on 21/06/2006 17:27:26 Urm, i think you will find that alliances fly around HED in big fleets for the purpose of clearing it of people like you.
I believe you miss the point entirely of their fleets, not all are there to gank people for fun, the HED pipe is a strategic place for many people and alliances will fly around to make way for their assets or whatever.
Think they will let you sit there and gank their alliance mates and industrialists? Of course not, so they send out large fleets to clear it. If you dont like it, go somewhere else. Im sure there are other places to do your pirating. Welcome to Blob Warfare.
Fly safe
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Soros
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Posted - 2006.06.21 17:32:00 -
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Good times good times 
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2006.06.21 17:36:00 -
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Umm why is this labeled the good old days, your story took place yesterday pretty much. Good old days= ca v xf/sa, and there were no such things as hac's in the good old days.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2006.06.21 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow Does anyone really give a flying **** about a crap piece of space where every turd in the universe goes to gank randoms?
Didnt think so 
As the Eve galaxy was severed famously from the rest of the universe, it is impossible for "every turd in the universe" to gank randoms in EVE, therefore your statement is 100% incorrect. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.21 18:02:00 -
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Wise man says, if see you a lone Huzzah ship idling at a gate, he shant be lonely for much longer should you aggress 
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Marnix
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Posted - 2006.06.21 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow Does anyone really give a flying **** about a crap piece of space where every turd in the universe goes to gank randoms?
Didnt think so 
I care. You appear to care, otherwise why post?
And yea, it is a pity. The pipe used to be like Syndicate. You could always get a fight. Nowadays, meh. Its the safest way in and out of southern 0.0. Boooooring.
Stay the fck away from my sig, thx.
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2006.06.21 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 21/06/2006 18:19:01 I couldn't agree more, getting a decent fight these days is a hard thing to do. We are all guilty of using bait tactics, even myself.
It makes me sad. 
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.06.21 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul Wise man says, if see you a lone Huzzah ship idling at a gate, he shant be lonely for much longer should you aggress 
It's amazing how often you can solo up and down the pipe due to this misconception or am I decieving you now?  
I just have to say that not every large gang that goes up and down the pipe is for the people safed when they pass through.
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Jonis Sinmaker
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Posted - 2006.06.21 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 21/06/2006 18:19:01 I couldn't agree more, getting a decent fight these days is a hard thing to do. We are all guilty of using bait tactics, even myself.
It makes me sad. 
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I blame BoB....why....it's the cool thing to do these days I guess.
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Lord Spidey
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Posted - 2006.06.21 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow Does anyone really give a flying **** about a crap piece of space where every turd in the universe goes to gank randoms? Didnt think so 
No idea, ask dear fowl play chicken whose lovely MC fleet tried to gank my crow there not to long ago. I assume since MC was there you guys must have cared though
Originally by: Uggs386 Umm why is this labeled the good old days, your story took place yesterday pretty much. Good old days= ca v xf/sa, and there were no such things as hac's in the good old days.
Originally by: Lord Spidey IÆve lost a Cerb while solo camping SV5 with just a medium bubble to a 30 man bob fleet. IÆve engaged in numerous small scale cruiser battles. IÆve chased an insta-ing blockade runner 12 jumps with my 7 man int gang cursing on Vent as were unable to ever catch it. IÆve looted overseer belongings from noob ships and IÆve run into FedorÆs anti frig geddon(I think) numerous times.
Either I am the most provocative pvp'er ever...or this didnt all happen yesterday...not to mention my "good old days" may not be the same as yours?
Anyway I have nothing against blob camps as I said its part of the game. I just wish there was more "omg small gang vs small gang lets engage instead of safing and waiting for the 50 man MC fleet we hired to show up!"
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2006.06.21 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Spidey
Originally by: Eyeshadow Does anyone really give a flying **** about a crap piece of space where every turd in the universe goes to gank randoms? Didnt think so 
No idea, ask dear fowl play chicken whose lovely MC fleet tried to gank my crow there not to long ago. I assume since MC was there you guys must have cared though
Originally by: Uggs386 Umm why is this labeled the good old days, your story took place yesterday pretty much. Good old days= ca v xf/sa, and there were no such things as hac's in the good old days.
Originally by: Lord Spidey IÆve lost a Cerb while solo camping SV5 with just a medium bubble to a 30 man bob fleet. IÆve engaged in numerous small scale cruiser battles. IÆve chased an insta-ing blockade runner 12 jumps with my 7 man int gang cursing on Vent as were unable to ever catch it. IÆve looted overseer belongings from noob ships and IÆve run into FedorÆs anti frig geddon(I think) numerous times.
Either I am the most provocative pvp'er ever...or this didnt all happen yesterday...not to mention my "good old days" may not be the same as yours?
Anyway I have nothing against blob camps as I said its part of the game. I just wish there was more "omg small gang vs small gang lets engage instead of safing and waiting for the 50 man MC fleet we hired to show up!"
kk there is this really cool thing that people use every now and then, its called sarcasm. I didn't actually mean yesterday just saying when you refer to good old days in hed most would refer to ca/xf/sa etc.
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viceman
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Posted - 2006.06.21 19:05:00 -
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I remember chasing hmmzor.'s gang of 7 with me drunk and kyle and you all had afs and cruiser we had a maller af and ceptor  --------------------- They see me rollin They hatin Patrolling they tryin to catch me ridin dirty |

Entilzah Valen
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Posted - 2006.06.21 19:17:00 -
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Lately every time I go to HED or the area I end up getting (rather blatantly) baited by some tard with loads of WCS or theres a Blob of 18~ BS on the other side of the gate. (hi FoFF)
I really don't consider those tactics fun (at least on that scale), just good for ISK really. ____________________________
A Haiku by Heraklitus Nomidzon
Outbreak Guns Glowing Pod Fluid Turning Yellow The Gate is Too Far |

Max Teranous
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Posted - 2006.06.21 19:26:00 -
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I still fly up and the down the pipe plenty, either solo or with a small gang going somewhere. Just 2 hours ago I had a 1 v 1 against a Huzzah ceptor pilot.
Then again, a 15 man RAT flet flew through there a few minutes later with bait hanging around, so it's all happening I suppose !
Max 
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.06.21 20:35:00 -
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As you can see it tends to be a trend that people are seeing blobs so blob up themselves although a lot of the time small group vs small group happens. This morning logged on and had a nice couple of skirmishes with FIX in v2-vc2, both sides lost some ships, both sides killed some ships, was most fun, all small group stuff.
President Huzzah Federation
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2006.06.21 20:41:00 -
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HED and U-Q pwhooooar, shame their not as active as they were.
Oh and to the moron saying noone cares about hed, you will prolly find a lot of people who were in the xetic, ca, sa war have a bit of a soft spot for it. But you was prolly mining veldspar then so i'm sure we'll forigve your ignorance.
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.06.21 21:13:00 -
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Rarely got good fights in HED but a few I do remember, once against a Hmmmzor rupture and 1 against Ephermeron.
Usually off peak time tho just before or after downtime.
Otherwise there wasnt a hope in hell of getting a decent fight :p
Happy days nonetheless ___________________________________
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Kujin
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Posted - 2006.06.21 21:29:00 -
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remembering good times and good fights in HED and south, but got bored after half a year coz of too many blobz, wcs *****s, or just no targets at all like 4-5h b4 DT....
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Backdoor Bandit
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Posted - 2006.06.21 22:17:00 -
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The HED pipe is certainly a lot calmer now that those bloody triad-types packed up and joined mining corps. -------------
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Bezelbub
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Posted - 2006.06.21 23:22:00 -
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I would like to thank the ISS Navy. You guys allow us to train our newer pilots to train on pvp, safely. You allow us to train our newer pilots on how to escape your 50 man gate camps, safely. Also, I dont want the ISSN to think I'm talkin about just my corp, but just about anyone who kills ISS. Thanks again though, you guys make me proud.
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Baihuigau
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Posted - 2006.06.21 23:30:00 -
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U welcome bezell
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Lord Spidey
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Posted - 2006.06.22 00:40:00 -
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This is a sweet example of the fun taht can be had in Hed with just small gangs or 1 v 1's!
2006.05.22 18:11
Victim: ????? Alliance: None Corp: Rage and Terror Destroyed: Huginn System: HED-GP Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Cerberal (laid the final blow) Security: 0.3 Alliance: None Corp: Hmmzor. Ship: Osprey Weapon: Bloodclaw Light Missile
Destroyed items:
Pneumatic Stabilization Actuator I 720mm Gallium I Cannon Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 5 (Cargo) 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I Phased Plasma M, Qty: 300 (Cargo) Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 41 Fusion M, Qty: 13 Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 40
See y'all tonight 
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.06.22 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Spidey This is a sweet example of the fun taht can be had in Hed with just small gangs or 1 v 1's!
2006.05.22 18:11
Victim: ????? Alliance: None Corp: Rage and Terror Destroyed: Huginn System: HED-GP Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Cerberal (laid the final blow) Security: 0.3 Alliance: None Corp: Hmmzor. Ship: Osprey Weapon: Bloodclaw Light Missile
Destroyed items:
Pneumatic Stabilization Actuator I 720mm Gallium I Cannon Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 5 (Cargo) 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I Phased Plasma M, Qty: 300 (Cargo) Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 41 Fusion M, Qty: 13 Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 40
See y'all tonight 
Osprey FTW Well at least you killed a RAT, um are you sure you didn't doctor that killmail, cuz I think you did. --------------------------
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Cerberal
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Posted - 2006.06.22 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Originally by: Lord Spidey This is a sweet example of the fun taht can be had in Hed with just small gangs or 1 v 1's!
2006.05.22 18:11
Victim: ????? Alliance: None Corp: Rage and Terror Destroyed: Huginn System: HED-GP Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Cerberal (laid the final blow) Security: 0.3 Alliance: None Corp: Hmmzor. Ship: Osprey Weapon: Bloodclaw Light Missile
Destroyed items:
Pneumatic Stabilization Actuator I 720mm Gallium I Cannon Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 5 (Cargo) 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I 'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I Phased Plasma M, Qty: 300 (Cargo) Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 41 Fusion M, Qty: 13 Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 40
See y'all tonight 
Osprey FTW Well at least you killed a RAT, um are you sure you didn't doctor that killmail, cuz I think you did.
Nah he didnt. I encountered the huginn + a taranis 13 km from me in my osprey after uncloaking from a jump. using 1600mm plate and 280mm arties + assault launcher, i engaged the huginn with explosive ammo + drones. After his shields fell, he went down fairly quick.
I killed him just as he got outta my scram range and began to warp. Was more luck than anything, and yes...he happened to be fully t1 fitted.
About 20 minutes later, i was killed by a crow using missiles just out of my arty range, it took about 4 minutes, and he was another member of RAT. The taranis i engaged earlier with the huginn retreated after the huginn popped and i sent my drones + missile at him.
Was a fun fight, and one of those odd encounters.
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