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Guns2Low
Caldari Deep Space Ventures
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.27 05:42:00 -
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cloaks are part of the game and should not be removed from the game, but afk cloaky campers are the skum of eve. cloaking devices should be nerfed to using some type of fuel or as in sci fi a cloaking ship or structure has a flaw that can be discovered some how some way. |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.06.27 05:52:00 -
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the flaw is called local
Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
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Posted - 2014.06.27 06:37:00 -
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Guns2Low wrote:cloaks are part of the game and should not be removed from the game, but afk cloaky campers are the skum of eve.
Thank you, good sir, for recognizing my efforts. 
Feel free to take a look at my killboard. You'll notice that as someone who uses a cloak a lot, and goes AFK a lot, and doesn't care where he does so or who notices, that it is quite devoid of any of your mining barges or the mining barges of your fellow nullbear cohorts.
You will notice that I don't seem to lose disposable ships by lighting cynos, that I don't craftily gank your hauler alts as they putter around to the customs offices or refueling your POS's for your delicious moon goo, or anything of the sort.
My KB is actually, sadly, quite empty. This is an unfortunate consequence of me combining the AFK scheme with my incredibly cloaky tactical approach to Eve. I've learned after many long hours of experience with this method of gameplay that it's supremely difficult to actually cause anyone harm while doing this.
If you insist on burning away the night sitting in the POS because you believe local to be 100% reliable but can't even be bothered to check my profile though, feel free to let everyone know that you decided to hide from nothing because of something you didn't bother to confirm yet again on the forums, so that the ISD's can roll their eyes as they lock yet another AFK cloaker thread for redundancy.
Thank you for wasting your time when I couldn't be bothered to waste my time with you.
Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help. |
Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole
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Posted - 2014.06.27 06:39:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:the flaw is called local
This^
Also see Schrodinger's Hot Dropper.
By the way you topic/post, OP, breaks rule 16 of the forums. #inb4lock
Edit:
Bohneik Itohn wrote:-snip-
Best response. ^
Schrodinger's Hot Dropper - The Fate of Forum Alts - Click me! Click me! |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.06.27 07:29:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote: ...snipped....
Yeah, this chap's response is good.
Whatever you propose regarding AFK campers, it will affect other, valid, gameplay as well. This subject has been argued to death and whilst I do agree with you that afk cloaked ships have the potential to cause problems it's only via force projection. The ships themselves are generally pretty useless, it's the threat of the cyno that's the problem.
The only suggestion I've read that seemed like a good idea on the subject is to stop cloaked ships having a cyno fitted with the exception of cov ops cloaked ships still being able to fit cov ops cynos. Even this, balancing as it is, would get a hefty opposition from the community that actively uses afk cloaky ships for the occasional hot drop cyno point which is a hefty chunk of nullsec.
Until some sort of unified approach that doesn't divide the community down the middle CCP aren't going to do anything as by doing nothing they risk nothing. By changing cloaking, it being a bone of contention and all, they risk losing account subs.
oh, and seriously, search. This has been discussed ad nauseam. |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
Black Marker
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Posted - 2014.06.27 07:59:00 -
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Locators running and afk alts moving.
And to add some value to this post:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4374522#post4374522
Edit: Apparently that link has already been posted above. Well then.. Can I have your stuff? |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.27 08:09:00 -
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Guns2Low wrote:cloaks are part of the game and should not be removed from the game, but afk cloaky campers are the skum of eve. cloaking devices should be nerfed to using some type of fuel or as in sci fi a cloaking ship or structure has a flaw that can be discovered some how some way.
If they're afk they actually can't do anything at all so what does it matter if they're cloaked?
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
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Posted - 2014.06.27 08:34:00 -
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Basically this!
Still think you are going to be heard, because you are different Think again!
Our Rules:
5) Before posting an idea, please check the Commonly Proposed Ideas Thread to see if there's already a topic running for it. Reposts will be locked and routed to the active thread.
The Rules
16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.
And for actively and knowingly trying to circumvent the rules by misspelling an existing thread, you should be banned for a few days at least.
Reported Btw.
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Doreen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.06.27 09:44:00 -
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Guns2Low wrote:cloaks are part of the game and should not be removed from the game, but afk cloaky campers are the skum of eve. cloaking devices should be nerfed to using some type of fuel or as in sci fi a cloaking ship or structure has a flaw that can be discovered some how some way.
What's wrong with it? Does itmake it hard for you to gank them? HTFU!!
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Doreen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.06.27 09:45:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Basically this!Still think you are going to be heard, because you are different Think again!Our Rules: 5) B efore posting an idea, please check the Commonly Proposed Ideas Thread to see if there's already a topic running for it. Reposts will be locked and routed to the active thread.
The Rules 16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked. As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. And for actively and knowingly trying to circumvent the rules by misspelling an existing thread, you should be banned for a few days at least. Reported Btw.
Dude...you are getting annoying. Go traffic cop some other forum or post somthing constructive you wannabe ISD reject. 
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Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:43:00 -
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Doreen Kaundur wrote:Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Basically this!Still think you are going to be heard, because you are different Think again!Our Rules: 5) B efore posting an idea, please check the Commonly Proposed Ideas Thread to see if there's already a topic running for it. Reposts will be locked and routed to the active thread.
The Rules 16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked. As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. And for actively and knowingly trying to circumvent the rules by misspelling an existing thread, you should be banned for a few days at least. Reported Btw. Dude...you and your boyfriend Kaerakh, are getting annoying. Go traffic cop some other forum or post somthing constructive you wannabe ISD reject. I find posters that repost redundant ideas threads, extremely annoying. If they stopped breaking the rules and actually put some effort into seeing if their bad idea has been discussed to death first, then maybe other posters wouldn't need to point out the obvious.
Just saying.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.06.27 11:50:00 -
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quick before its locked...
ahhhhh
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.06.27 12:44:00 -
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Doreen Kaundur wrote:What's wrong with it? Does itmake it hard for you to gank them? HTFU!!
Yes, of course it does. They're cloaked up somewhere and you can't find them. Your post is redundant.
Doreen Kaundur wrote:Dude...you and your boyfriend Kaerakh, are getting annoying. Go traffic cop some other forum or post somthing constructive you wannabe ISD reject.
Throwing random insults around, especially about someone's sexuality, gives people a decent idea of what sort of person you are. Neither of your posts in this thread have added anything to it.
Might I suggest you have a good hard look at yourself and try to figure out why you're so negative? It could be as simple as having sand caught up in your genitals or perhaps some deep seated psychological issue about your parents? Whatever it is, there's no need to take it out on others, especially others who are making valid points.
Please try to post constructively for the benefit of everyone on the forum. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.06.27 12:45:00 -
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Reported.
Don't post duplicate threads, there are already about a hundred of these.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:16:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Reported.
Don't post duplicate threads, there are already about a hundred of these.
Thousand you mean?
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:20:00 -
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15th!!!! Darn thing beat me
Seriously, though.... people asking to have the game shifted because they can't deal with it is not balancing, it is rather unbalancing.
If you want the other player to have a harder time, you must first accept that this will cost in the form of YOU having a harder time as well.
I happen to approve of more effort all around, as it really drops the odds of a stalemate. The chances two sides with so many possible outcomes matching that well is not likely.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence
What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked... |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies
The Unthinkables
2390
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:29:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Reported.
Don't post duplicate threads, there are already about a hundred of these. Thousand you mean?
Well, at least one a week for the six years I have been playing equates to 312 minimum.
GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players.
Schr+¦dinger's Hotdropper |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:35:00 -
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The solution to cloaky camper threads is to go cloaky camp some random system for a bit to punish some stranger and restore the cosmic balance. Just like squishing miners in response to the "I'm a miner and I got ganked and it's not faaaair" threads. It's quite theraputic.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
167
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:35:00 -
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Aehm guys, the OP hasn't replied since the first post, maybe its time to stop this, probably just a new forum alt to have a laugh.
Lets not give 'them' more incentive to see us dance.
And to stay on topic: No - for the various xxxx reasons mentioned in the xxxx linked threads (see above).
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Doreen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:37:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Reported.
Don't post duplicate threads, there are already about a hundred of these.
Reported for posting redundant replies.
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:46:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:maybe its time to stop this
The sarcasm, bad-posting and derailing will continue until posting improves!
Or a mod comes in and beats us up. Just blame Doreen and run away.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Tabris Katz
The Ecstatic Cult of Dionysus
Almost Awesome.
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:48:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:the flaw is called local
Local is not the issue, and if they did then everywhere would be like WH space.
As stated before, if they are truely afk then they pose no threat and are there just to passivly harvest tears. By the number of threads I see on this topic, I'd say they are doing a pretty good job at it.
The real issue is how you respond to cloakers in null sec, assuming we are talking about null. If they are not afk then they are looking for juicy targets and testing defense of such said alliance. This is what happened to me while I live in Oasa. My response was to continue about my buisness in a cheap bait-fit procuror. This way I continue to bring in minerals for my alliance if I was ignored (which I was). The other more risky option to spring such said trap and bait them.
If neither of these ideas agree with you, then remember this. LOCAL IS YOUR FRIEND!!! If you are out in a potential target with an cloaky camper in system then watch local like a hawk! If you see local spike with people that aren't blue then chances are a covert cyno has just been lit and you should run to the nearest station or POS. |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
396
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Posted - 2014.06.27 13:51:00 -
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Nah, OP is legit. Black Core Alliance owns 8 rather nice systems out in Kalevala, and they do a lot of ratting.
Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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elitatwo
Congregatio
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Posted - 2014.06.27 14:33:00 -
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I still don't get what the fuzz is all about.
The other day I was sitting cloaked in Amarr, doing maket inqueries and nobody of the 897 minus myself people in local seemed to care about me, afk or semi-afk cloaking there for over an hour.
Maybe I should go out to nullsec again, I can cause so much more grief there, its simply amazing.
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BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury
Tactical Narcotics Team
431
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:16:00 -
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Guns2Low wrote:cloaks are part of the game and should not be removed from the game, but afk cloaky campers are the skum of eve. cloaking devices should be nerfed to using some type of fuel or as in sci fi a cloaking ship or structure has a flaw that can be discovered some how some way.
Please explain the following before I approve your idea:
1) how do you KNOW someone is AFK, as opposed to incredibly patient?
2) How is a ship without an active pilot a threat?
I would like to see this... you cloak, you disappear from local chat.
Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.27 15:26:00 -
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Sigh.....
I have said it before and will say it again: If you find a thread or post to be breaking the forum rules, please do report it. It is however not necessary to post in the same thread that you did so, as by doing so you are breaking said rules yourself by posting off topic. I can assure you each and every report we get gets looked at and acted upon by CCL.
Also, quoting the rules yourself is a bit daft as each and every poster on the forum should know them themselves.....
That said, on to business: As there already are and have been multiple threads on the same topic, this one gets a lock.
16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.
ISD Ezwal
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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