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Garresh Team Chicken and Waffles 310	Posted - 2014.07.02 09:33:00 - [91] - Quote Ayara Itris wrote: WH's require a lot of SP, which is unfortunate because it seems like it'd be really fun to get into. This is patently untrue. I launched a solo c2 operation 6 months after I started eve, with a month or so of training wasted on learning skills and interceptors. Maybe more. Ran it for a long time too. Anyways as to why I dont live in w-space, it was honestly kind of lonely. Nobody to shoot in the lower classes, and not much contact with your neighbors. Maybe Id be better suited to c5 and c6 but I enjoy my current lifestyle as a lowsec roamer. It just feels right. This Space Intentionally Left Blank
Louis Catcher J-Space BrotherHood Zombie Pony Express 8	Posted - 2014.07.02 10:17:00 - [92] - Quote Clearly people talking about logistics being a pain in the ass has not lived in a wormhole. Sure you can't move **** right away all the time but many times you will get that HS/LS that is close to amarr and Jita. TBH it is many times easier then Null logistics. Also the "no local" makes for me the whole wormhole experience so much more thrilling, to be able to sneak up on a fleet or someone without them even knowing you are in the system is priceless.
Phoenix Jones POS Party Try Rerolling 474	Posted - 2014.07.02 10:21:00 - [93] - Quote Lived in wormholes for about a year and a half, left, now returning. Why I left. 1) pos code 2) logistics (can't build pos modules inside wh, can't assemble built t3,'s, no dedicated fuel hauler)) 3) no unique "loot" (people in low and null on occasion get a cool bpo, a cool module, etc). Wormhole space? Nope. It's kill sleepers, vacuum up their carapace. Why I came back? 1) smaller groups are more social 2) people have a viable job in wh space 3) cyno's don't work here 4) they fixed some of the hauling issues 5) ore and ice compression Things I would like to see to get people more interested? 1) actual rare drops from sleepers (something viable for that person to do/grab when they are mapping wormholes) 2) sleeper based ship equipment (wormhole version of t2 equipment) 3) a viable fix to pos code (update permissions, equipment, storage, personal sma, etc) 4) ability to assemble t3's in wormholes without needing a station 5) ice spawns intermixed with gravimetric belts ( as now compression of ice is viable, it can become another export from wh space) 6) ability to build pos modules inside of a pos. Stabbers are totally broken http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
Aeo Kai Mobility HQ 12	Posted - 2014.07.04 13:05:00 - [94] - Quote So, lots of debate, are wormholes viable for low SP pilots or not?
Gaellia Bonaventure Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 2409	Posted - 2014.07.04 22:55:00 - [95] - Quote I don't like worms. Bring your possibles.
Kellie Dusette Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin 74	Posted - 2014.07.04 23:16:00 - [96] - Quote Ayara Itris wrote: WH's require a lot of SP, which is unfortunate because it seems like it'd be really fun to get into. Aeo Kai wrote: So, lots of debate, are wormholes viable for low SP pilots or not? It really doesn't take much SP, least not to get yourself into a low-class hole (C1-3). You need to be able to scan confidently and salvage efficiently, use cloaking devices, and fly/fit a Battlecruiser effectively to be able to farm the sleepers. If you want to day trip into wormholes then that's it ... no big deal really. You want to live in one then you'll need a few more skills to maintain your POS, but it won't take very long at all.
Proclus Diadochu Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance 1811	Posted - 2014.07.05 03:55:00 - [97] - Quote You lost me at... WASPY69 wrote: Be Mature - Be respectful to others, and don't ** up local or cause unnecessary drama. Real talk, though. For all the experiences I have had in wormholes, wormholin', creating drama/content, starting fights, and overall stirring up fun for my friends and I in the past, it dawns on me that even though some folks are familiar with the dynamic of wormholes, the culture, people, mechanics, tips and tricks, and methods that can lead to successfully playing in that area of gameplay, many aren't as familiar or see it as one of two things: :effort: :unknown: Get past both and you will succeed in wormholes. Unknown will fade over time, and then you will constantly battle effort until you leave wormholes and join another community, or quit the game. Irrelevant-á\| Twitter: @autoritare \| [email protected] My Blog: http://diogenes-club.blogspot.com/ \| The Diogenes Club
Erica Dusette Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin 11572	Posted - 2014.07.05 04:15:00 - [98] - Quote Deebo Singleton wrote: Dhaq wrote: Deebo Singleton wrote: Can't find a corp that speicalizes in evictions, which are the most arousing thing about wormholes and I hate the fact so many "pvp," wh group avoid it. So until then, me and my scout are stickin to nullsex for easier pew. Because simply going after evictions is extremely short sighted. It's like wanting to be a part of a hunting group that specializes in hunting species to extinction. You say that like everyone who has been evicted from a hole bailed on w-space permanently. Eviction does break the paradigm and you'll get blobbed and evicted for it soon enough, but that ain't bcause ~short sighted. It's because "muh shekels," and "the blue **** must flow." Now, I don't think there's anything wrong about that. To each his own, but we all know the narrative about cultivating pvp is hilariously easy to see through. No disrespect for my w-space bros tho. Yall are just doing your thing. Evictions sound tantalizing, superficially. But in reality it's a lot more about PVS (player versus structure) than any meaningful or exciting PVP. The typical wormhole eviction will 90% of the time entail: Moving into the system, watching the locals scatter, maybe ganking a few of them in the process Spending several hours (or potential much, much longer) reinforcing the resident towers Bubbling the towers and exits and maintaining sleep-depriving, pee-in-a-bottle 24h hole-control for upwards or two days while you wait for the tower's to come out of reinforce. Maybe ganking one or two more locals during this period as they desperately attempt to move out or self-destruct everything. Spending hours destroying the towers and their modules after they come out of reinforce, scooping any loot left over. Op success Maybe 10% of the time will the eviction target be ready and capable to defend against the invader, providing somewhat of a good fight. Similarly only 10% of the time will they invest in a mercenary to come defend them. Evictions are very time-consuming and mind-numbingly boring for the most part. There are many other things much more exciting to spend your time doing in WH space! Having said that, I still enjoy a good invasion or eviction. Simply because the novelty for me hasn't worn off yet, but ask 90% of the pilots I've flown with and they'll echo pretty much the sentiments I wrote above - Sieges are boring. But if they're what you want to do then go join any WH merc corp and you'll likely find yourself doing evictions semi-regularly. If you and your scout want excitement then start wandering through W-space. Hunting people you come across and perhaps even finding a system with vulnerable bear inhabitants worth camping and terrorizing for a week or two, leaving only after they pay a ransom or bring someone in to kill you = good times! Gÿá Part-time wormhole pirate \| GÖí Full-time super model WH Blog \| #420roloswag \| Bio
Gefen Orion Orion Star Ltd. 20	Posted - 2014.07.05 04:17:00 - [99] - Quote I don't like how the sun shines inside wormholes...
Conrad Makbure Division One Security 73	Posted - 2014.07.05 04:27:00 - [100] - Quote Getting stuck out there would suck. If they would introduce a ship like the Orca, but more of a mobile space station that can deploy and lockout other pilots with a forcefield and PW access, I'd think about it. Also: http://wormholes.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/hilownullwh.jpg

Mr Epeen It's All About Me 5382	Posted - 2014.07.05 04:31:00 - [101] - Quote Wormholes are interesting in that they are the one place in New Eden that you actually don't spam warp when you are running out of structure. And it'll stay that way until CCP allows probe launchers in pods. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 10586	Posted - 2014.07.05 04:44:00 - [102] - Quote The corp I've grown accustomed to and enjoy doesn't operate in wormhole space. I suppose I could join GSF's holesquad but I don't know how active they actually are. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh.
Elmonky Titans of The Short Bus Universal Consortium 70	Posted - 2014.07.05 18:04:00 - [103] - Quote Confirming that W Space does indeed rock the casbah. It needs some work... but being the industry supply within our alliance and Crius and it's impending sexiness we are mostly having all of the fun. And most of my corp mates are the most pvp averse gamers ever... they are slowly coming to terms with ''I will kill that bastard!'' and knowing that in W Space... noone can hear you scream... unless everyone is on comms
Aeligos Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.07.05 19:56:00 - [104] - Quote I started EVE a year ago, started out as a high sec miner and I remain so to this day. I haven't ventured out to wh mainly due to not having proper combat skills. I also don't know much about WH but I will actively look into this as I do want to make the transition from miner to fighter. If I had a more up-to-date PC I'd have more than one character, a fighter on one client and miner on the other.
Gorinia Sanford Big n Large 60	Posted - 2014.07.05 20:32:00 - [105] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: This thread reminds me of the time I said WHs were camped by skeletons in German WWII uniforms and this German guy went completely mental at me. I guess he had a bit of a nationality complex lol. Now that's just funny. Sounds like he just needs to pull the stick out.
Vortexo VonBrenner Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1433	Posted - 2014.07.06 00:35:00 - [106] - Quote Because I don't want to become like this poor guy - which is what happens when you spend too much time in wormholes. I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming.
Titania Hrothgar Nemesis Retribution No Excuse. 78	Posted - 2014.07.06 02:08:00 - [107] - Quote Dhaq wrote: There's a pretty good discussion thread going on about why null does or doesn't interest them. So I'd like to start up one on the reasons you have for living, or not living, in W-space. For me is the more dynamic nature of life there. Changing connections, no local, no stations. For me it just gives EVE a much different feeling, where High/Low/Null all feel stagnate and dull. No wormhole corps accepted my applications because I refused to become a member of their favorite website.. Pure and simple. I'm in Null Sec simply because the corp I'm in gave me a home. All the world's a stage and all the men and women are the players.
Marcus Alvin Tivianne Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.07.06 03:56:00 - [108] - Quote Titania Hrothgar wrote: Dhaq wrote: There's a pretty good discussion thread going on about why null does or doesn't interest them. So I'd like to start up one on the reasons you have for living, or not living, in W-space. For me is the more dynamic nature of life there. Changing connections, no local, no stations. For me it just gives EVE a much different feeling, where High/Low/Null all feel stagnate and dull. No wormhole corps accepted my applications because I refused to become a member of their favorite website.. Pure and simple. I'm in Null Sec simply because the corp I'm in gave me a home. Wat?
James Nikolas Tesla Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 120	Posted - 2014.07.06 04:42:00 - [109] - Quote Anslo wrote: I'm a filthy casual. Same Knight in battered armor
PantrashMoFo Bruggen Raiders 26	Posted - 2014.07.06 05:42:00 - [110] - Quote Vortexo VonBrenner wrote: Because I don't want to become like this poor guy - which is what happens when you spend too much time in wormholes. That was without doubt the most disturbing thing i have ever seen on the internet. I am going to have nightmares now.

Titania Hrothgar Nemesis Retribution No Excuse. 78	Posted - 2014.07.06 05:58:00 - [111] - Quote Marcus Alvin Tivianne wrote: Titania Hrothgar wrote: Dhaq wrote: There's a pretty good discussion thread going on about why null does or doesn't interest them. So I'd like to start up one on the reasons you have for living, or not living, in W-space. For me is the more dynamic nature of life there. Changing connections, no local, no stations. For me it just gives EVE a much different feeling, where High/Low/Null all feel stagnate and dull. No wormhole corps accepted my applications because I refused to become a member of their favorite website.. Pure and simple. I'm in Null Sec simply because the corp I'm in gave me a home. Wat? TEST requires that you be a member of REDDIT for at least 3 months. They denied my app because I wasn't. GOON requires that you be member of Something Awful for at least 3 months. I'm sure there are more. It's the silliest recruitment scheme I've ever seen. I refuse to jump on a website forum and pretend to care just to get into a corp. All the world's a stage and all the men and women are the players.
Harrylon Atild Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.07.06 06:28:00 - [112] - Quote Titania Hrothgar wrote: Marcus Alvin Tivianne wrote: Titania Hrothgar wrote: Dhaq wrote: There's a pretty good discussion thread going on about why null does or doesn't interest them. So I'd like to start up one on the reasons you have for living, or not living, in W-space. For me is the more dynamic nature of life there. Changing connections, no local, no stations. For me it just gives EVE a much different feeling, where High/Low/Null all feel stagnate and dull. No wormhole corps accepted my applications because I refused to become a member of their favorite website.. Pure and simple. I'm in Null Sec simply because the corp I'm in gave me a home. Wat? TEST requires that you be a member of REDDIT for at least 3 months. They denied my app because I wasn't. GOON requires that you be member of Something Awful for at least 3 months. I'm sure there are more. It's the silliest recruitment scheme I've ever seen. I refuse to jump on a website forum and pretend to care just to get into a corp. Except Goonswarm and TEST are both nullsec alliances, not wh corps, so your post doesn't make any sense.
Erica Dusette Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin 11663	Posted - 2014.07.06 06:46:00 - [113] - Quote PantrashMoFo wrote: Vortexo VonBrenner wrote: Because I don't want to become like this poor guy - which is what happens when you spend too much time in wormholes. That was without doubt the most disturbing thing i have ever seen on the internet. I am going to have nightmares now. ******* nullsec. Gÿá Part-time wormhole pirate \| GÖí Full-time super model WH Blog \| #420roloswag \| Bio
Serene Repose 1424	Posted - 2014.07.07 07:00:00 - [114] - Quote I'm already playing null sec, low sec, high sec, factional, Incursions...now wormholes? I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
Mithandra Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep 64	Posted - 2014.07.07 08:55:00 - [115] - Quote WASPY69 wrote: I see a lot similar reasons being expressed in this thread. Basically, to enjoy living in a wormhole your interests gotta match the following: Hunter mentality - You enjoy the hunt and favor PVP over PVE. Isk per hour is irrelevant to you. Scanning, and more scanning - If you hate scanning you will hate wormholes. Period. Content creator - Some people sit in a POS or station expecting to e spoonfed content. In a wormhole it's up to you to take the initiative. Be Social and contribute to your corp - No one likes the silent, selfish type in wormholes. Skills - Skills as in knowing game mechanics, and being a confident and skilled solo pilot. (Applies in fleets too). Skillpoints - While not mandatory to enjoy wormhole life, know that most wormhole entities rarely fly Tech 1 ships. Be Online - Be active and be logged in as much as you can and have time to. Wormholes are no place to play 'skillque online'. Be Mature - Be respectful to others, and don't ** up local or cause unnecessary drama. Environment - You gotta enjoy the dynamic environment and constantly changing wormhole exits. Tinfoil Hats** - Always carry extra tinfoil hats. You know the moment you stop hitting Dscan you will miss those combat probes. And just because local is "empty" doesn't mean no one is cloaked 10km away from you, watching you, getting a warpin for the fleet behind that newly spawned K162. That's the basics that I can think of right now, I most likely forgot something but meh, it's 3am as I write this. This pretty much sums up the requirements for a successful WH pilot
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 1409	Posted - 2014.07.07 10:30:00 - [116] - Quote Dhaq wrote: There's a pretty good discussion thread going on about why null does or doesn't interest them. So I'd like to start up one on the reasons you have for living, or not living, in W-space. For me is the more dynamic nature of life there. Changing connections, no local, no stations. For me it just gives EVE a much different feeling, where High/Low/Null all feel stagnate and dull. Real life make likely that I can spend liek 4-8 days without login into the game. Wormhoel is too volatile for me to risk that. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!"


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