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Dhaq
Anonymous Posters
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Posted - 2014.06.30 18:49:00 -
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There's a pretty good discussion thread going on about why null does or doesn't interest them. So I'd like to start up one on the reasons you have for living, or not living, in W-space.
For me is the more dynamic nature of life there. Changing connections, no local, no stations. For me it just gives EVE a much different feeling, where High/Low/Null all feel stagnate and dull. |
Anslo
Scope Works
5591
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Posted - 2014.06.30 18:51:00 -
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I'm a filthy casual.
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Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
259
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Posted - 2014.06.30 18:58:00 -
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Logistics. Its a pain in the ass to live there. As far as day tripping - never seem to find anyone home.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
853
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:09:00 -
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My understanding is that most of the PVP is hunter/prey, while I prefer the in-your-face fighting of Faction Warfare / lowsec in general.
Also, I can't fly T3s / T2 logi yet. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6958
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:13:00 -
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Dhaq wrote:There's a pretty good discussion thread going on about why null does or doesn't interest them. So I'd like to start up one on the reasons you have for living, or not living, in W-space.
For me is the more dynamic nature of life there. Changing connections, no local, no stations. For me it just gives EVE a much different feeling, where High/Low/Null all feel stagnate and dull.
Wormholes are great. I've ventured into a few of them on occasion. One of the most memorable things I remember happening was how shortly after wormholes we introduced, my corp CEO at the time decided we should try to make some isk in one of them. We went into a C5 with a gang of remote repping Domis and were QUICKLY introduced to wormholes escalation mechanics lol. On second, phalanx of Domis, next second, Phalanx of Pods 
From a PVE perspective they are fun but it's a lot of side work to do them solo and I haven't felt the urge to join a 'big' wormhole corp like the ones who live in c6s and such. I'm planning on going the full time wormhole route one day though (probably to coincide with when the last of our kids graduate from high school in 10 months, 3 weeks and 2 days.....not like I'm counting or anything).
EDII: also, I HATE scanning with probes even if it is way easier now than in the past. |
MicDeath Titan
Titans Guild
Solitude Coalition
60
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:31:00 -
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My main reason: Some 'holes just are not big enough, and (from what I understand it) inconsistent ore spawns.
If WH had say ice, and decent ore spawn similar to sov/null (in the case of WH's, the bigger the class the better the sites), then I would have zero problem looking to get in on the action. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
12170
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:40:00 -
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My love for megathrons does not mix well with wormholes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6202
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:42:00 -
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MicDeath Titan wrote:My main reason: Some 'holes just are not big enough, and (from what I understand it) inconsistent ore spawns.
If WH had say ice, and decent ore spawn similar to sov/null (in the case of WH's, the bigger the class the better the sites), then I would have zero problem looking to get in on the action.
Sounds like you want a nice system with a somewhat upgraded (I'd say level 4 works) Mining upgraded IHUB. Maybe an ice belt, though the previous will let you mine ore forever.
You know, there are still systems open in the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere, a growing nullsec presence, spanning several regions.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4099
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:45:00 -
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I like visiting. But never found the inclination to stay there for long. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1400
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:52:00 -
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Same thing as null for me, lack of consistent play time making any 'burnable' zone extremely difficult to live in. |
Dave Stark
6453
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Posted - 2014.06.30 19:59:00 -
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because the logistics of living there is too much effort. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1221
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:10:00 -
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Timezone and PvP centric attitudes
For the former I seen to have issues finding one active in my TZ, for the latter, I have no issue with PvP, especially defensive PvP, but no matter where I go I'm not going to make it the core of my activities which seems to be what several WH corps/alliances want. |
Qalix
Four Pillars
Brothers of Tangra
288
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:23:00 -
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it's a gigantic pain in the ass |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
2025
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:33:00 -
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When I was very young, maybe a week or two, I probed wh and entered it. On d-scan I saw few ships and I wanted them to know I have peaceful intentions so I said "Hi boys" on local. Ships disappeared from d-scan and I felt sad so I warped back to wh entrance. There was a ship already waiting for me apparently, bubbling wh and locking me the moment I landed. He managed to land gracing shot on my probe stripping my armor almost to none before I jumped back to hisec.
No wonder those people are hiding in holes, who would like to play with such rude individuals!
I am not my skills but...
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor
Black Core Alliance
1510
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:47:00 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Logistics. Its a pain in the ass to live there. As far as day tripping - never seem to find anyone home.
This is a main reason. You can't really take much of a break.
Also, there is a distinct lack of content for a well functioning corp over 10 active members. You can clear all the pve stuff pretty quickly and then you spend days waiting for new respawns. If you don't want to pvp 23/7 it can get boring quickly.
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Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
247
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Posted - 2014.06.30 20:47:00 -
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I don't have the time to dedicate or worry about my own corp ganking me on alts
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Arec Bardwin
1454
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:11:00 -
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Laughable POS security options for corp members. |
Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
11259
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:25:00 -
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Wormhole life is great. But it's certainly not for everyone. I've lived in higher class and lower class holes and also had a small alt corp living in Class 2 systems for some years that we've always shared with others. I've lost count of the amount of highsec corps with 'wormhole dreams' that've moved in and been unable to even handle a C2 WH and left within weeks/months. A lot of folks don't understand that you get out what you put in with WH life.
I love wormholes because:
- No local - it gives a certain atmosphere that you cannot find anywhere else in eve. Never knowing who's there with you, watching you, or what kind of monsters may jump out from the closet and murder you at any given moment.
- Like a box of chocolates - every day brings something new, with new connections, new neighbors, new dangers. It's a true frontier.
- The money is good. Or at least so I'm told as I've never really farmed in WH space much. I just live there to murder folks.
- Different mechanics, no station games, no gate camps (well sorta, holes still get camped sometimes) and entries/exits you can control yourself with mass.
- A feeling of owning your very own system, even though it's technically not yours, carving out your very own legacy.
- Privacy, peace (selectively) - Being able to keep Empire and all the HS/LS/Null politics and plebs at a comfortable arms' length, while also being somewhat invisible yourself and very difficult to find.
- Idiots, there's less of them in WH space, although we do tend to have our own unique brand.
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Netan MalDoran
Yumping Amok
Circle-Of-Two
29
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Posted - 2014.06.30 21:48:00 -
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Reasons I'm not in a WH:
I can't afford a POS (As I like to play mostly solo)
No ice for fuel
I can't pop a sleeper even with all launchers on my Drake on a single one before I pop 
In the future I may consider a small corp there, but not in the near future.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
Marsha Mallow
1193
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Posted - 2014.06.30 22:04:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote: The money is good. Or at least so I'm told as I've never really farmed in WH space much. I just live there to murder folks.
Tyberius remarked it's a bit too PVP-centric but I'd really only be interested in killing stuff too. Not all that keen on PVE farming for ISK generation, so there's probably a lot of content in them I'd ignore.
I keep considering putting an alt in one just to try it out, but don't really have time atm as I've alts in various other places. The logistics sound a bit fiddly early on getting stuff in, but I'd imagine a decent group would help new members and it's not as though I don't have logistics alts. I wouldn't do it solo or in a tiny group as I can't be bothered monitoring a POS every day anymore.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
7554
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Posted - 2014.06.30 22:24:00 -
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I live in one now, I just suck at it. 
But from my limited experience with a low class hole, it's an enormous pain in the ass to live even here, and we have a static highsec to make logistics easier.
The POS mechanics desperately need a full rework, and that's the larger part of it. How this has gone ignored for so long I shall never know.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
410
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Posted - 2014.06.30 22:25:00 -
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Lack of RL time to play EVE.
Anyway, not to say that W-Space is perfect. Far from it. It has it own serious problems that should be looked at by CCP (POS-es for example, assembling tech 3 ships and other stuff) but otherwise, it's more fun than nullsec. Having no local is not really an advantage of the space for me, but rather a manageable annoyance... but hey... nothing's perfect.
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Saraki Ishikela
Deep Space Adventure Time
40
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Posted - 2014.06.30 22:42:00 -
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As the person who created the Null Thread, I support this post :)
I've heavily considered looking for a Worm Hole Corp. I am big fan of exploration as it is and WH's seem like a natural extension of that life style.
My biggest concerns are trusting others with my assets in the POS
Logistics of getting loot out and ammo/ships in
and while I'd want to join a c5 or c6 group to maximize my income potential I feel that doing so would leave me at the mercy of my corp for content. I want to be in a location I can still solo if I want.
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
174
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Posted - 2014.06.30 22:43:00 -
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To lazy and they are scary, but I logged in the other day so I've got that going for me which is nice. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
434
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Posted - 2014.06.30 22:50:00 -
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wormholes for the win.
best place to live in eve.
positives
1) no local.
2) constant and varied exits to null to hunt
3) periodic t3 brawls with other wh denizens
4) isk is great if you know how to earn it, and if you put 5bn of hardware on the line to get to it :)
5) ability to control entrances / exits
negatives
1) asset security. corp theft is an issue.
2) no cloning station
3) logistics can be difficult at times |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1886
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Posted - 2014.06.30 23:10:00 -
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Moved into a WH alliance a month after I started playing eve, right when apocrypha was released. Lived in WH space for six months. Was fun. Overall though, there's more pvp to be had in low/null IMO. Not saying WH's don't have pvp, I just encounter fights in non-WH space with greater frequency, so these days I live in low-null. |
Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
11271
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Posted - 2014.06.30 23:13:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Moved into a WH alliance a month after I started playing eve, right when apocrypha was released. Lived in WH space for six months. Was fun. Overall though, there's more pvp to be had in low/null IMO. Not saying WH's don't have pvp, I just encounter fights in non-WH space with greater frequency, so these days I live in low-null.
That's true ^^
If you want to undock and get a fight at a minute's notice then lowsec or null are for you.
Fights and ganks in WH often seem to take a little more time and effort to find. Although in saying that you will often find the value of targets is greater than what you might come across in Empire regions. Looking at many WH pvp'ers killboards you'll notice they often have half the kills a lowsec pilot might have, yet double the ISK destroyed (for a rough example).
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
887
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Posted - 2014.06.30 23:15:00 -
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Friend of mine found a fleet of Tengu (4 or 5 I think) floating silent and empty in a WH once.
Hard to see how a fleet that size could lose all probes but that seems the only real explanation of why they were abandoned there. |
Radelix Cisko
The Price Of Freedom
Wreckless.
194
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Posted - 2014.07.01 00:38:00 -
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I was in a WH's a few times. Left to corp burnout, complaining, and to a lost POS cause a member made a foolish mistake of leaving shinies out as pos trash.
Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2014.07.01 02:46:00 -
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Religious reasons -- my God is a jealous god -- as apparently Bob is. |
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