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Baalic
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Posted - 2006.06.24 02:39:00 -
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My vote is for drone interfacing. A single skill that doubles the effect of an entire class of weapons? Yes please. Now if only there was Projectiles interfacing...
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Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.06.24 02:50:00 -
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Drones are weak without drone interfacing though.
Personally, I think Energy Emission Systems are crazy, train it up and you have a guaranteed win button for any ship smaller then yours that gets too close.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Baalic
My vote is for drone interfacing. A single skill that doubles the effect of an entire class of weapons? Yes please. Now if only there was Projectiles interfacing...
if it'd make you feel better I'd be very happy to have my drone interfacing skill reverted to its old +1 drone control bonus(that is, +1 to how many drones you can have in space) and the drone bays on my drone ships adjusted accordingly.
but I bet you don't like that idea either....
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Celedris
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:33:00 -
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Electronic Warfare: 500 sp invested in it, and you can shutdown someone with 50 million sp.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.06.24 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaus
Drones are weak without drone interfacing though.
Personally, I think Energy Emission Systems are crazy, train it up and you have a guaranteed win button for any ship smaller then yours that gets too close.
He was asking about the skills right, cause then it's the weakest since it doesn't actually give a bonus. ;-)
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Andreask14
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Posted - 2006.06.24 10:54:00 -
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EvE is perfectly balanced and working as intended.
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Gatiep
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Posted - 2006.06.24 12:04:00 -
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surgical strike is top skill among gunners...
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:06:00 -
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Depends how you define "overpowered".
Biggest skill effect: learning skills. Compare someone with learning skilsl and without after a year.
Allows use of modules with the biggest effect with the least amount of necessary training: Electronic Warfare.
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Femme X
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:29:00 -
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Day Trading, it's a lvl 1 skill, quick to train, massive effect.
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Wheya
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Posted - 2006.06.24 14:03:00 -
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ethnic relations
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Namarus
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Posted - 2006.06.24 14:03:00 -
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Mining.
A totally sick and overpowered skill.
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Mike Yagon
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Posted - 2006.06.24 14:54:00 -
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Advanced Spaceship Command, it stacks with Spaceship Command and Evasive Maneuvring, making those Freighters just too damn agile!
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.24 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Gatiep
surgical strike is top skill among gunners...
only for those who havent trained rapid fire yet 
Originally by: Oveur
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Turiya Flesharrower
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Posted - 2006.06.24 18:37:00 -
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Engineering
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.06.24 20:31:00 -
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How can a particular skill be "overpowered" when all skills are open to everyone?
The answer is its not possible.
In EVE equipment can be over powered because it can be compared relative to other equipment for which the use of one excludes the other. But a skill cant be over powered.
Now you could say a line of skills is over powered relative to another line, but only in the cases of lines which exclude other lines. For instance you could say "Gallente ships and hybrid weapons are over powered relative to Amar ships and lasers"(I dont believe that its just an example.)
Anyway - stupid topic.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Deitre Cibrus
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Posted - 2006.06.24 23:29:00 -
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Caldari Battleship.
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Arcadia1701
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Posted - 2006.06.25 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Celedris
Electronic Warfare: 500 sp invested in it, and you can shutdown someone with 50 million sp.
lol omg u have no idea how true that is
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Death Mate
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Posted - 2006.06.26 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaus
Personally, I think Energy Emission Systems are crazy, train it up and you have a guaranteed win button for any ship smaller then yours that gets too close.
Could you explain in detail what you mean by this, please?
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Waenn Ironstaff
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:38:00 -
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Simply put: lager nosferatu modules.
On a frigate, it can drain only so much and affect very little the bigger ships as they have more cap to contend with
But on battleships (and to an extent cruiser-class), the difference is huge. It's 24km range and can near instantly drain the entire cap of a frigate, disabling weapons and tanking abilities alike.
Hence why nos = death to smaller ships.
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:02:00 -
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I would think that several of the missile skills have a tremendous effect, but with missiles being missiles they are not as uber powerful as one would hope.
The most bang for your buck you get from: "Drone Interfacing" as there is as far as I am aware not a single other skill that gives you a 100% more damage when trained to lvl5 (20% at each level)
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Auron Shadowbane
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:15:00 -
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most overpored skill?
hmm: Drones I-V it increases drone damage by 100%/skill level over the first level ....
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Waenn Ironstaff
Simply put: lager nosferatu modules.
On a frigate, it can drain only so much and affect very little the bigger ships as they have more cap to contend with
But on battleships (and to an extent cruiser-class), the difference is huge. It's 24km range and can near instantly drain the entire cap of a frigate, disabling weapons and tanking abilities alike.
Hence why nos = death to smaller ships.
I think they should give us capital nos, 1000 cap drained every 24 seconds with a range of 48k would rock, and give you guys something to really complain about.
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Galk
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:07:00 -
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Gallente dreadnaught.
Im pushing it to 5 right now purely because it's 50% more ummmphh
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PVP'er
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:20:00 -
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Gunnery 5, allows you to use all those evil large turrets |
Uggs386
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Posted - 2006.06.27 02:49:00 -
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I second the electronic warfare skill.
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Ricka Bronzar
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Posted - 2006.06.27 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ricka Bronzar on 27/06/2006 11:26:59
Originally by: Baalic
My vote is for drone interfacing. A single skill that doubles the effect of an entire class of weapons? Yes please. Now if only there was Projectiles interfacing...
drone bays were 1/2 on all ships with rmr and the drone interfacing changed to a damage bonus. This was to reduce lag with the amount of drones.
Its not an overpowered skill, its a compensation skill for having 1/2 drones we use to be able to have.
if you want that skill for projectiles I see no problem with that if you follow the same rules... 1/2 turrent slots...
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Taketa De
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Posted - 2006.06.27 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ralitge boyter
The most bang for your buck you get from: "Drone Interfacing" as there is as far as I am aware not a single other skill that gives you a 100% more damage when trained to lvl5 (20% at each level)
Look at the Fighters skill...
I'm with the EW skill as the most overpowered.
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.06.28 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Taketa De
Originally by: Ralitge boyter
The most bang for your buck you get from: "Drone Interfacing" as there is as far as I am aware not a single other skill that gives you a 100% more damage when trained to lvl5 (20% at each level)
Look at the Fighters skill...
I'm with the EW skill as the most overpowered.
If you guys are talking about increment.. look @ the leadership specialist skills.
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Mrs Crow
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Posted - 2006.06.28 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
If you guys are talking about increment.. look @ the leadership specialist skills.
leadership spec at level 5 (without a dedicated command ship) makes the link have a 10% effect
look at the context of the bonus, not just the number
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Calina Nerrin
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Posted - 2006.06.28 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Calina Nerrin on 28/06/2006 23:34:33
Originally by: Celedris
Electronic Warfare: 500 sp invested in it, and you can shutdown someone with 50 million sp.
Propulsion Jamming: 500 sp invested in it, and you can shutdown someone with 50 million sp.
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Arcadia1701
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Posted - 2006.06.28 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Calina Nerrin
Edited by: Calina Nerrin on 28/06/2006 23:34:33
Originally by: Celedris
Electronic Warfare: 500 sp invested in it, and you can shutdown someone with 50 million sp.
Propulsion Jamming: 500 sp invested in it, and you can shutdown someone with 50 million sp.
Same thing, different circumstances.
AT least then u can actually shoot bak 
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Natalia Sidhu
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Posted - 2006.06.29 07:37:00 -
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Edited by: Natalia Sidhu on 29/06/2006 07:38:00
Originally by: Baalic
My vote is for drone interfacing. A single skill that doubles the effect of an entire class of weapons? Yes please. Now if only there was Projectiles interfacing...
Umm, that was done to reduce the stress on the servers caused by drones. It used to be that you get an extra drone per level. Now you get almost the same thing w/ the 20% bonus per level and there arent so many drones running around.
Not to mention its cheaper to loose 5 drones doing double damage instead of 10 drones doing regular damage.
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BrerLapin
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Arcadia1701
Originally by: Calina Nerrin
Edited by: Calina Nerrin on 28/06/2006 23:34:33
Originally by: Celedris
Electronic Warfare: 500 sp invested in it, and you can shutdown someone with 50 million sp.
Propulsion Jamming: 500 sp invested in it, and you can shutdown someone with 50 million sp.
Same thing, different circumstances.
AT least then u can actually shoot bak
Theres these missiles called FOF's & these things that circle your ships called drones. Their awesome.
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CaptainSeafort
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Posted - 2006.06.30 17:36:00 -
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but not everyone has them - so dont act so smug -^
(btw, i use a dominix, so dont whine at me =P)
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Kai Jyokoroi
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Baalic
My vote is for drone interfacing. A single skill that doubles the effect of an entire class of weapons? Yes please. Now if only there was Projectiles interfacing...
I have a clue to sell. Would you like to buy it? 
CCP halved the drone bay size of ships, and doubled the damage of the drones by changing this skill from +1 drones controlled to +20% damage per level in RMR, to reduce lag in fleets. This means that with comparable (3-4m SP) skillpoints invested in drones (i.e. heavy drones 5, drone interfacing 5, drone spec 4) you do similar damage over time to someone with 3-4mil SP in gunnery.
It's exactly the same as it was before pre-RMR. The skill ain't overpowered, there's no such thing, because everyone has access to them.
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Prestis
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:28:00 -
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Gotta agree with Drone Interfacing.
What annoying is, because every ship over frigate size has a drone bay, you need it at level 5 to really compete in ANY Cruiser or larger ship.
You could be in a totally non-drone boat ship like a Vagabond and you'll get your ass kicked by a Vaga with 5 light drones and drone interfacing 5 more than you would if you were missing any other skill.
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TotensBurntCorpse
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:27:00 -
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My vote would go to cybernetics
this skill is the controlling skill for all implants and hardwirings
which are arguably the single biggestest investment that 100% goes poof when u die
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Bubba Zenetti
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Bubba Zenetti on 01/07/2006 16:21:30
Originally by: Baalic
My vote is for drone interfacing. A single skill that doubles the effect of an entire class of weapons? Yes please. Now if only there was Projectiles interfacing...
Well, we can also run 1/3 as many drones as we used to, so I'd say it equals out partner 8) The damage is also very flaky since large and medium drones take forever to get to target, have limited range, and sometimes don't attack even after telling them to 8 times.
Let's be fair... drones suck for anything but limited short range situations, with some luck thrown in. Plus you lose them a lot if you need to get out in a hurry since they never come back into drone bay unless you are flying towards them.
Edit: forget about using them in a lagfest
My vote on most overpowered skill is target jamming. A noob can neutralize a HAC, unless they fit an ECCM, with nearly 100% certainty with 2 Initiated multispecs and a sensor booster. That's why my alt packs them 8)
HAC training = FOREVER
ECM + Sensor booster, under a week.
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2006.07.01 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Prestis
Gotta agree with Drone Interfacing.
What annoying is, because every ship over frigate size has a drone bay, you need it at level 5 to really compete in ANY Cruiser or larger ship.
You could be in a totally non-drone boat ship like a Vagabond and you'll get your ass kicked by a Vaga with 5 light drones and drone interfacing 5 more than you would if you were missing any other skill.
You mean that someone who invested 30 days in training a skill to lvl 5 has an advantage over you? A base canard!
Anyawy, its obvious that Surgical Strike is the most overpowered skill in the game, ccp needs to nerf or change it.
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Inc MuadDib
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Posted - 2006.07.02 13:13:00 -
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Learning tree, especially Learning V bonus (+1 point for 10 points, per attribute).
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lou rhodes
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Posted - 2006.07.03 21:27:00 -
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empathy ;]
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Exavier Macbeth
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:42:00 -
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My vote is for Mobile Refinery Operation...
Its so uber that CCP has decided not to release anything that actually requires this skill. I swear i have had it on my skill list for 2+ years now :P
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Heritor
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Posted - 2006.07.03 23:15:00 -
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The skill at using your brain......unfortunately you cannot buy this in game or out for that matter
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Eris Davion
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Posted - 2006.07.04 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi
It's exactly the same as it was before pre-RMR. The skill ain't overpowered, there's no such thing, because everyone has access to them.
I won't argue the specific points, but experience with TCGs has taught me that general attitude is wrong.
If a skill is not a basic utility skill (ie learning, spaceship command,) but has an effect great enough that you either MUST have that skill or MUST fit specifically to counter it in order to have even odds against it, that skill is overpowered. Regardless of whether or not it's available to everyone.
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Eris Davion
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Posted - 2006.07.04 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Originally by: Prestis
You could be in a totally non-drone boat ship like a Vagabond and you'll get your ass kicked by a Vaga with 5 light drones and drone interfacing 5 more than you would if you were missing any other skill.
You mean that someone who invested 30 days in training a skill to lvl 5 has an advantage over you? A base canard!
If he means "someone who invested 30 days in this skill has an advantage over someone who has invested the same 30 days in any other skill," he'd have a point.
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Glaive Assasin
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Posted - 2006.07.05 16:27:00 -
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Seems like it really depends on Race and set-up. I mean you use certain skills to your advantage. Those that work for you the best.
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Daetlus Marconia
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
How can a particular skill be "overpowered" when all skills are open to everyone?
The answer is its not possible.
In EVE equipment can be over powered because it can be compared relative to other equipment for which the use of one excludes the other. But a skill cant be over powered.
Now you could say a line of skills is over powered relative to another line, but only in the cases of lines which exclude other lines. For instance you could say "Gallente ships and hybrid weapons are over powered relative to Amar ships and lasers"(I dont believe that its just an example.)
Anyway - stupid topic.
You can't be serious...You've just come up to the answer for your own opening question during your attempt to insult the OP. If you'd like we can modify it for you since you seem to be rude and slow.
"What skill do you consider to be overpowered when compared to every other skill"
I thought what he meant was quite easy to understand..but.../shrug
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JoeT
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Gatiep
surgical strike is top skill among gunners...
only for those who havent trained rapid fire yet
You get them both to lvl 5 =) and the rest of them to lvl 5. No less...
Ew is pretty bad though. For small battles, it seems to be who ever can fit the most nos, ew, and drones
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Pudoris
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Posted - 2006.07.09 01:01:00 -
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are you all on something?
btw for the person saying that everything over frig size has a dronebay... zealot? omen? maller? and probably more... to lasy to think on my nightshift.
most overpowered skill is to much to think about, well I guess I should just not have posted :)
But my pick would be no skill, since everyone can train all of them, eventually, and nobody said for noobs or for any certain limited situation.
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Zeros Omega
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Posted - 2006.07.09 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
Originally by: Baalic
My vote is for drone interfacing. A single skill that doubles the effect of an entire class of weapons? Yes please. Now if only there was Projectiles interfacing...
if it'd make you feel better I'd be very happy to have my drone interfacing skill reverted to its old +1 drone control bonus(that is, +1 to how many drones you can have in space) and the drone bays on my drone ships adjusted accordingly.
but I bet you don't like that idea either....
so having 2x as many drones... compared to 2x damage? WAIT...
10 drones = 5 drones with 2x dmg!!!!! OMGWTFLOLBBQ pls read why dev's did what they did
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