I don't know how anyone can possibly play EvE without a girlfriend/wife. They provide valuable support during fleet ops.

Who else is going to run hot pockets and cheetos down the cellar stairs. Not to mention emptying out the refilled mountain dew bottles.

Clearly I am. We met on an online game about 15 years ago. She and I play WoW together and I play this.

Except this isn't quite true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2hsqEvPGWQ
CCP basically confirmed during the economics presentation that the plex price increase is due to speculation/hoarding rather than user demand. It's not other "poors" you are competing with, but rather with people who have too much isk who can't find anything better to do with it than buy plex, since this is considered a relatively safe investment.

Those get even richer, and everyone who relies on grinding for x plex every month either get poorer, have to grind even more or quit/unsub a couple alts. Capitalism simulator operating as intended.

What is this 'end game?' I didn't realize that every player in EVE was being funneled toward the same goals.

....You're complaining about having to pay $540 a year?
Seriously?
As someone has pointed out, that works out to $1.48 a day...If you can't afford to play, maybe you should get a higher paying job?

Heck even in my country macdonalds pays $5 an hour.

I don't know how anyone can possibly play EvE without a girlfriend/wife. They provide valuable support during fleet ops.

Who else is going to run hot pockets and cheetos down the cellar stairs. Not to mention emptying out the refilled mountain dew bottles.

Still trying to figure out the $540 figure, as a subscription is only $131.40 per year.

Sigh... I mentioned the metrics in my first post of what I used in the estimate those fitures.

$15 * 12 (Months in a year) = $180

Take 180 and multiply it by 3 (Three toons) = $540

Boy... you'll need to go back to grade school if you need help with this.

I too would like to own 3 accounts. But I don't because I cannot afford them.

So, what's the moral of the story?

I too would like to own 3 accounts. But I don't because I cannot afford them.

So, what's the moral of the story?

Isn't a year long sub cheaper?

Sigh... I mentioned the metrics in my first post of what I used in the estimate of that figure.

$15 * 12 (Months in a year) = $180

Take 180 and multiply it by 3 (Three toons) = $540

Boy... you'll need to go back to grade school if you need help with this.

[quote=THCS][quote=Tau Cabalander][quote=Yishna Strone]

No wonder you're poor.

Says the guy who paid for eve all these years with real cash. Apparently I'm a couple hundred richer than you because I subbed with plexs I earned...

... An average pilot makes roughly 60-100 mil/hr from ratting. To earn a plex, it takes 7-12 hrs to plex one account....

Oh, I understand now why you said that wife > Eve. WoW players are sensitive and you have to be gentle around them. I know I would do anything only to avoid tears and whine IRL.

:)

Says the guy who paid for eve all these years with real cash. Apparently I'm a couple hundred richer than you because I subbed with plexs I earned...

Says the guy who paid for eve all these years with real cash. Apparently I'm a couple hundred richer than you because I subbed with plexs I earned...

A couple hundred dollars? Color me impressed.
I've been plexing for a while, by the way.

Man I don't understand you...What you're position on the matter then... I guess this guy only end-game is to irritate people online.

Congrats dude. You successful done what you've set out to do...

High plex prices make it harder for you to play without paying $s for subs - which was something achievable for a semi-casual player who plays 10 hrs a week.

Sup all,

I want to start a discussion on Eve endgame and the cost of eve in terms of plex, time and RL $...

The inflated plexs price is putting a serious clamp on people's budget and I feel it kind of alienating the old veterans who are trying to enjoy end-game content and have loads of high-value capitals at risk. As a semi-casual player and full-time worker that doesn't want to play $540/ year or 480 hrs of my time just to keep a float in eve, its pretty hard to keep up with and enjoy eve content.

Playing eve has gotten pretty expensive for a 100+ mil SP /super/ and cap toon and doesn't seem to be slowing down.

Lets face it: Owning capitals capitals requires support toons. Players who don't want to shell out $15-20 a month need to buy plexs in game to support their capitals and accounts. With the increased cost of plexs recently, I don't think Capital pilots can sustain their accounts for long without eating into their ISK or RL savings or taking out a loads of time out of RL to put toward grinding for isk.

Lets do the math shall we? An average player plays 10-20 hrs a week and owns 2-3 accounts in eve; at current plex sell and buy order bids, that's 2.2 bil isk a month to keep them active. An average pilot makes roughly 60-100 mil/hr from ratting. To earn a plex, it takes 7-12 hrs to plex one account. That's on average 36 hrs of play time to pay off just the plex for subscription and also does not include operating costs and risk of ship loss.

My rough estimate is that it takes 40 hrs of grinding to pay off one's sub for 3 accounts. That's 3 weeks of free continuously effort we have to put towards eve!!

Idk, I kinda want eve developers to bring price of plexs down because this inflation trend is really putty a strain on my RL time and In-game budget. Do any of you Eve Vets share the same sentiment?

You sound as if you have/would marry someone who makes you unhappy. Why? I found someone whose hobbies parallel my own. That's what everyone should do, but they're all too eager to be married to wait to meet the right one.