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Posted - 2003.09.29 07:54:00 - [1]

Edited by: Dukath on 29/09/2003 07:57:39
There are 2 things that happened there.

1) evolution was camping the entry point from VOL-MI into HLW-HP. The jump in point is located pretty much in the center of the grid. Meaning that you can fly a circle of about 100km around the point and remain in the grid.

CA tried to get us out there with, as i see it a good tactic. They warped in on all sides of the evolution forces, using several prepared bookmarks. However they didn't seem to prepare the bookmarks too well since some were too far away and outside the grid. And also because they were using different bookmarks and didn't warp at the exact same time they arrived slightly separated.

Simple to say they got massacred. Then local exploded with accusations of cheating.

GM appears and tries to figure out what happened. He checks our location, to see where we were in the grid and flies around us in a wide circle and even states in local that he could fly around us in a wide circle and that there might be a bug but is definitely no exploit used.

2) after a while we decide to attack VOL-MI and leave the spawn point. However the gate to VOL-MI lies next to a grid-border. As result our forces got split up, half of us could not jump while the rest went through. The players on the other side launched an attack at a gate at the same time that the CA came to the VOL-MI gate inside HLW-HP. Having out forces split up in 3 groups, 2 groups at the vol mi gate trying to get through and 1 groupt at the hlw-hp gate inside vol-mi there was a slight confusion and we lost 2 pilots at the vol-mi gate. The attack inside vol-mi itself was aborted and then re-engaged later after the confusion cleared up a bit.

2b) CA stayed at the gate, playing around with the GM a bit. At one point Stain alliance warped in and encountered the frig, since they are still at war of course they killed him. There was no mention at all from the GM to stop fighting. All he said that was even remotely close to a cease fire was the statement that if they think it is bugged then they should avoid fighting there. I don't see how this means a cease fire at all:/ Evolution on their side made it perfectly clear that enemy ships would be killed when encountered.

This is how i saw the events yesterday, i do not claim that they were correct because i am not in CA and do not know their attack plan, but this is how it appeared to me.
They lost ships, we lost ships. It happens. Build new ships, report the problem and take it into account to prepare better next time. At least thats what we will do next time we get split up like this due to a bug.


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Posted - 2003.09.29 07:54:00 - [2]

Edited by: Dukath on 29/09/2003 07:57:39
There are 2 things that happened there.

1) evolution was camping the entry point from VOL-MI into HLW-HP. The jump in point is located pretty much in the center of the grid. Meaning that you can fly a circle of about 100km around the point and remain in the grid.

CA tried to get us out there with, as i see it a good tactic. They warped in on all sides of the evolution forces, using several prepared bookmarks. However they didn't seem to prepare the bookmarks too well since some were too far away and outside the grid. And also because they were using different bookmarks and didn't warp at the exact same time they arrived slightly separated.

Simple to say they got massacred. Then local exploded with accusations of cheating.

GM appears and tries to figure out what happened. He checks our location, to see where we were in the grid and flies around us in a wide circle and even states in local that he could fly around us in a wide circle and that there might be a bug but is definitely no exploit used.

2) after a while we decide to attack VOL-MI and leave the spawn point. However the gate to VOL-MI lies next to a grid-border. As result our forces got split up, half of us could not jump while the rest went through. The players on the other side launched an attack at a gate at the same time that the CA came to the VOL-MI gate inside HLW-HP. Having out forces split up in 3 groups, 2 groups at the vol mi gate trying to get through and 1 groupt at the hlw-hp gate inside vol-mi there was a slight confusion and we lost 2 pilots at the vol-mi gate. The attack inside vol-mi itself was aborted and then re-engaged later after the confusion cleared up a bit.

2b) CA stayed at the gate, playing around with the GM a bit. At one point Stain alliance warped in and encountered the frig, since they are still at war of course they killed him. There was no mention at all from the GM to stop fighting. All he said that was even remotely close to a cease fire was the statement that if they think it is bugged then they should avoid fighting there. I don't see how this means a cease fire at all:/ Evolution on their side made it perfectly clear that enemy ships would be killed when encountered.

This is how i saw the events yesterday, i do not claim that they were correct because i am not in CA and do not know their attack plan, but this is how it appeared to me.
They lost ships, we lost ships. It happens. Build new ships, report the problem and take it into account to prepare better next time. At least thats what we will do next time we get split up like this due to a bug.


   
 
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