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Biced
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Posted - 2012.01.11 07:50:00 -
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Andrea Roche wrote:i could also quote you similarly but i am too lazy and you are not worht it. the funny thing is that you cant beat this:
if you look around at killboard with black ops, its is clear they are succesful at what they do.
Once you get jumped by black ops, you got 1 minute or less to survive even when you are in a battleship. Its that fast!
Jumping distance and fuel consumption is the only thing that stops from making this type of game op.
I dont mind others saying bops are fine. but you are a mega troll and a coward hiding behind an alt troll toon.
saying a ship is fine cause it can gank mission/sanctum runner w/e in null is idiotic.
apart from that i have never used one. but if people end up fitting cargo expanders on em its pretty bad.
came here to see what the current state of the ship class is and if its worth a try and tbh it does not seem that bad.
just takes alot of logistics and good scouting effort to do it right.
is that correct?
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Biced
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Posted - 2012.01.11 08:07:00 -
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Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:What they really need is for the 3 not the widow to fall in line with it. They should all do Ewar, the fact that there obviously specialized ships for the purpose of fleet projection, and just the Caldari one force multiples is IMHO an over sight that needs to be addressed.
so the other 3 need to fall in line with the caldari one?
and all should do ewar the amarr one will do TE the minmatar one will do TP and dumps for the gallente?
no thank you.
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Biced
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Posted - 2012.01.11 13:17:00 -
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Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:But what about them being just bigger recons? If they could be the recon then couldn't you use your jump portal for lots of SB instead? Don't get me wrong they need bumps all around for shure(10% to one resist thats the lowest of all T2 ships!!!) I have already stated earlyer that I am also for bigger fuel bay/lower fuel use AND further range. Make it a for real T2 with some acule resist and fittings.
So with all that? I think that looks good.
with all what the noneses?
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:No, warp disruptor, newt, web duh. The other races have 2 Ewar types so probably the more relevant one, go look at there force recons.
Don't act like that wouldn't be awesome to have a second BS with newt bonus, or a BS that deckoaks and throws a point 40k, or webbs you to 2 digit number for speed.
Its called a bhaalgorn and it is awesome. most people choose to use it w/o a cloak though.
and someone beat me to the faction bs part.
there is a theme in eve where t2 ships keep thier t1 variants bonus and get another bonus on top of that.
there are some exeptions though. widow "cough"
go check it out.
in fact what they should do is take the ecm bonus the widow gets and give it something useless like the agility for the sin.
trololol.
and no it will not be awesome at all because.
redeemer will be used to neut out caps. we already have a ship that does that read above.
the rest meh.
you know they portal recons right? like they have that ew in fleet already.
and they have low scan res so by the time it will lock you up you have all the time in the world to warp out there will be no point throwing.
fat recons no thank you.
your idea of a buff is make black ops tackle battle ships is terrible. |
Biced
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Posted - 2012.01.11 18:46:00 -
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Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:So what your saying is my widow SHOULD get a range and ecm and ecm burst bounus? ok!
Also lots of the pie ships now have one of there races ewar as a bounus, so what they weren't like that the hole time, they should change back.
they mainly changed the bonus to the weapon systems.
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:Its should be clear to all that the Black Op is still in prenerf form like how lots of stuff usta be release in the olde times of EvE.
The other members of its tree have better resist and higher scan rez than there T1 counter parts.
the first part is new to me if you have a link to a dev saying they release ships in a prenerfed mode i would like to read it.
i can not understand anything for prenerf and on sorry.
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:Also only HAC's, AF's always keep there T1 bonuses, the rest get a change up, that or just my logi in my hanger is missing its sweet mining bonus.
told you go check it out, but no....
launch eve. open market and look at the t2 ships, as i said there are some exceptions.
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:Just because recons can already use it dose not mean more or different types of Ewar in the fleet would be bad, never had my Falcon turned down form a fleet because there was a Lachesis or an other Falcon for that matter.
never had a falcon turned down sure that ship can pretty much fit in any fleet comp. (though i know one fc that turned down a falcon on a frig roam and told the guys to bring kitsune)
but how about a rook? or better yet how about a scorp?
the only bs size ew platform in game is the scorp and lets face it, it is not that great, you would rather be in a falcon then a scorp in most cases. and for that same reason you wouldnt want black ops to replace your ew in gang.
not saying that it will hurt having it there or anything like that. just saying that there are dedicated ships for that, which will outpreform them in most cases while costing way less and requier less training.
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:You are the troll here.
and this combined with everything else you have posted clearly means you did not undestand anything of what i have said. |
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