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Admentus Cor'vion	Posted - 2006.06.26 00:17:00 - [1] So, sitting at a fair distance away from the station in V2-VC2. Currently it's named (insert some nobody's name here) for huzzah president. Why you ask? Hans Roaming, or as I like to call him, "The Architect", ergo, without further adieu, for better or for worse, informed me that he was stepping DOWN!?!?@#@!@ GL on your future endevours, wherever. Oh, and Admentus Cor'vion for huzzah president! _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.06.26 00:22:00 - [2] Indeed I am, will do an official announcement about things tomorrow as that is the presidential candidate cutoff date and thx for the kind words, we might shoot each other in space but always have some good chats. President Huzzah Federation Play EVE on the hard setting, join us.
Admentus Cor'vion	Posted - 2006.06.26 00:24:00 - [3] Originally by: Hans Roaming Indeed I am, will do an official announcement about things tomorrow as that is the presidential candidate cutoff date and thx for the kind words, we might shoot each other in space but always have some good chats. Lets hope the next canidate can fill them big old shoes, you hound! _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Lig Vieta	Posted - 2006.06.26 00:29:00 - [4] You two lovebirds need to get a room.
Nick Curso	Posted - 2006.06.26 00:31:00 - [5] Edited by: Nick Curso on 26/06/2006 00:30:49 This thred is sweter than a suger factory made of candy canes! get down to som good ol' smackin lol
Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.06.26 00:34:00 - [6] Your leadership has earned Huzzah alot of respect Hans, hopefully the next person to step up keeps flying the course you set (except maybe your choice in friends). Requisite smack included
Sae Marr	Posted - 2006.06.26 01:50:00 - [7] You did a great job, Hans. I'm not sure HF is going to find a suitable replacement, the way you managed and directed the horde of newbie players (GSY excluded) was masterful :) Good luck. -
Sacul	Posted - 2006.06.26 01:58:00 - [8] ow noes, i see another alliance going down the drain..... gl and u still gonna continue playing hans?
Tadis	Posted - 2006.06.26 02:02:00 - [9] Indeed. I'll wait for Hans official announcement to answer any questions I might have. ___________________________________ NRG Recruiting
Zrevak Ashek	Posted - 2006.06.26 02:40:00 - [10] Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 26/06/2006 02:41:08 Sorry, couldnt resist If u ever thought huzzah was an aggressive entity, u've seen nothing yet Huzzah Federation
Beringe	Posted - 2006.06.26 02:54:00 - [11] Speaking as a complete outsider, I feel that Hans Roaming has given Huzzah an impeccable outwards image that has given them a lot of diplomatic currency (esp when compared to entities in a similar situation with, erm, worse representation). Here's hoping that the successor will maintain that reputation. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Admentus Cor'vion	Posted - 2006.06.26 03:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 26/06/2006 02:41:08 Sorry, couldnt resist If u ever thought huzzah was an aggressive entity, u've seen nothing yet Lockbait. Secondly, while Hans has assembled a bunch of people, I will only say that 90% of Huzzah is cannon fodder. RE : Undocking in nothing but cruisers for a quasi fleet battle. Plus, it seems like when someone springs a trap there's more panic and hiding then, "omg where my guns lets go". _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Backdoor Bandit	Posted - 2006.06.26 09:43:00 - [13] I await your application to the MGRL, Hans. -------------
Ifni	Posted - 2006.06.26 11:07:00 - [14] Sorry to see you step down, Hans. I doubt HF will ever be the same. It's your turn to die.
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2006.06.26 11:12:00 - [15] will b hard to find a follower who can compete with hans. and btw, nice one backdoor ;) - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
OzaLoni	Posted - 2006.06.26 11:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Hans Roaming Indeed I am, will do an official announcement about things tomorrow as that is the presidential candidate cutoff date and thx for the kind words, we might shoot each other in space but always have some good chats. This is a shock! Well well... All the best Hans, it was a pleasure flying with you. You are a great guy and fantastic diplomat! GL in your future endeavors. Have Fun!
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.06.26 12:00:00 - [17] Well, it is hard even for stronger corps to supstitute CEO as Hans is, can imagine how hard for Huzzah will be then. Good luck Hans wherever you decide to go....btw, you staying in your corp or moving somewhere else on fishing holidays or something? DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.06.26 12:41:00 - [18] Thanks for the nice words, am just standing down as President and will be diplomat for Huzzah, we got some good candiates and it's election time in Huzzah \o/. So am still CEO and out in fleets getting everyone killed like normal . President Huzzah Federation Play EVE on the hard setting, join us.
Tessa Vaako	Posted - 2006.06.26 15:01:00 - [19] As noted above Ars Caelestis is proud to put forward Dameon Drake as our candidate in the Huzzah Elections. That is one of our many campain posters and I really didn't expect to see it here. :) Quote: Secondly, while Hans has assembled a bunch of people, I will only say that 90% of Huzzah is cannon fodder. RE : Undocking in nothing but cruisers for a quasi fleet battle. If this is in reference to the saturday night/sunday morning battle in and near V2-VC2 I'd like to take a moment to point out that while we engaged a superior force, we chose to engage despite knowing the odds. We could have all docked and logged, or cowered in our POSs but chose not to. Instead we had much more fun in our attempts to zerg the hostile forces and trade cruisers for battleships. Furthermore, if we're going to be slinging mud, what about the FIX gang that safe spotted and logged near FAT Monday morning rather then engage us? -- The Future is Exciting.
Avon	Posted - 2006.06.26 16:40:00 - [20] Here's your chance Hans, come fly with me in BNC. We can make sweet explosions together :) Actually, scratch that. Hans and his crew are my absolute favoritist enemies in all of the Eveverse. I hope this move serves to make your gametime even more enjoyable. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Babs Johnson	Posted - 2006.06.26 17:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Tessa Vaako If this is in reference to the saturday night/sunday morning battle in and near V2-VC2 I'd like to take a moment to point out that while we engaged a superior force, we chose to engage despite knowing the odds. We could have all docked and logged, or cowered in our POSs but chose not to. Instead we had much more fun in our attempts to zerg the hostile forces and trade cruisers for battleships. My admiration goes out to my new comrades. We knew we were outnumbered and outgunned and yet I never heard the first suggestion that we back down from that fight. Good fun. And good alliance. May the new leader of Huzzah carry forth this same spirit of fun and determination.
Imaweepony	Posted - 2006.06.26 17:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Babs Johnson Originally by: Tessa Vaako If this is in reference to the saturday night/sunday morning battle in and near V2-VC2 I'd like to take a moment to point out that while we engaged a superior force, we chose to engage despite knowing the odds. We could have all docked and logged, or cowered in our POSs but chose not to. Instead we had much more fun in our attempts to zerg the hostile forces and trade cruisers for battleships. My admiration goes out to my new comrades. We knew we were outnumbered and outgunned and yet I never heard the first suggestion that we back down from that fight. Good fun. And good alliance. May the new leader of Huzzah carry forth this same spirit of fun and determination. Funny how things turn around in such a short period of time!
Avernus	Posted - 2006.06.26 17:36:00 - [23] I have to admit a little confusion... I don't see why people are stating that HF was outnumbered and outgunned during those 3 engagements. We were in V2 ofc, a home system where I would expect the majority of HF pilots would have a stock of ships at hand. FIX gang numbers topped at about 22 pilots, while local was about 60 in total. Now not all those in local were engaged obviously, but we were most certainly equal in numbers, the logs from the battles tell the story very throughly. Plus, we lost a couple of ships each engagement, it adds up. As for outgunned.... it's your system, you choose what ships you want to fly. That said, we had an amazing amount of fun, by the end of it, a fair number of pilots logged in nearby systems because people were so tired. (We can fight outnumbered, but when the odds begin to climb above 5:1, and you have no support, or covert ops to help balance the odds, then you're just committing suicide; that is why some pilots logged out last night from safespots). Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.06.26 18:07:00 - [24] Edited by: Crucifier on 26/06/2006 18:08:18
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.06.26 18:07:00 - [25] yay
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.06.26 19:26:00 - [26] Originally by: Avon Here's your chance Hans, come fly with me in BNC. We can make sweet explosions together :) Actually, scratch that. Hans and his crew are my absolute favoritist enemies in all of the Eveverse. I hope this move serves to make your gametime even more enjoyable. You don't know how tempting that is my firend and yes have gone from 8th to 5th in alliance ranking since lightening up on admin so much more fun. To the other posters can we relax about who safed or who won or did what? Does it matter, you win some and loose some, meh. President Huzzah Federation Play EVE on the hard setting, join us.
Cadiz	Posted - 2006.06.27 03:42:00 - [27] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Avon Here's your chance Hans, come fly with me in BNC. We can make sweet explosions together :) Actually, scratch that. Hans and his crew are my absolute favoritist enemies in all of the Eveverse. I hope this move serves to make your gametime even more enjoyable. You don't know how tempting that is my firend and yes have gone from 8th to 5th in alliance ranking since lightening up on admin so much more fun. No! Bad Hans! BAD! No entertaining thoughts of going over to the Dark Side! You don't want to make us all cry, do you? D: ------ Director, Blood Moon Horde "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Avon	Posted - 2006.06.27 08:05:00 - [28] Originally by: Cadiz Originally by: Hans Roaming You don't know how tempting that is my firend and yes have gone from 8th to 5th in alliance ranking since lightening up on admin so much more fun. No! Bad Hans! BAD! No entertaining thoughts of going over to the Dark Side! You don't want to make us all cry, do you? D: Hang on, WE are the good guys. Aren't we? Um... The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.27 11:12:00 - [29] FIX has 22 men to put into a gang.... I thought FIX were Dead Seriously what rock were you bunch hiding under during the FIX/Huzzah war On Topic As many gave said those are Big shoes that will ahve be filled and Hans is a hard act to follow... Bla...bla...bla... You have definatly earned the respect of many including F-OFF. Will be interesting to see you sitting on the sidelines as a spectator. Whatever may come Good luck to Huzzah. There is power in numbers, no matter that everone else plays with bigger numbers. ---------
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.06.27 11:30:00 - [30] Originally by: Zhon FIX has 22 men to put into a gang.... I thought FIX were Dead Seriously what rock were you bunch hiding under during the FIX/Huzzah war On Topic As many gave said those are Big shoes that will ahve be filled and Hans is a hard act to follow... Bla...bla...bla... You have definatly earned the respect of many including F-OFF. Will be interesting to see you sitting on the sidelines as a spectator. Whatever may come Good luck to Huzzah. There is power in numbers, no matter that everone else plays with bigger numbers. See u guys switched home again,, did Hans get to salty or was it sweet?. Or was the good minerals out, or did u just feel that huzza was dying so u had to run?.. Either way,, shyyy dont speak loud when u have as a bad reputation as u guys do. Tho Hans have done alot off good for a alliance as huzza, Gl in the future.
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.06.27 12:42:00 - [31] ewww its teh crAzy swede !!! -
Xrak	Posted - 2006.06.27 13:01:00 - [32] Thats a bad loss for HF. GL HF and Hans.
Cadiz	Posted - 2006.06.27 13:34:00 - [33] Edited by: Cadiz on 27/06/2006 13:35:24 Originally by: Avon Hang on, WE are the good guys. Aren't we? Um... I believe the appropriate quote in BoB's case is "Good, bad, we're the guys with the guns". ------ Director, Blood Moon Horde "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Tessa Vaako	Posted - 2006.06.27 14:20:00 - [34] Edited by: Tessa Vaako on 27/06/2006 14:21:05 Originally by: Avon Originally by: Cadiz Hang on, WE are the good guys. Aren't we? Um... Well, y'all drop faction loot if nothing else. That makes you "good" in my books. Not quite as good the T2 BPOs that Ars Caelestis has been known to drop, but it's close. That said, please don't come again for a few days ok? The Ars Caelestis gang commander from that is STILL so freakin' pumped about that fight that we're not going to be able to get him down from the rafters for DAYS. Oh gawd he's started SINGING! -- The Future is Exciting.
Tecam Hund	Posted - 2006.06.27 18:54:00 - [35] A nice kill, but if you check our kb for stats against BoB for last month; it pretty much says we have a lot to work on
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.27 18:59:00 - [36] Edited by: Zhon on 27/06/2006 19:00:28 Edited by: Zhon on 27/06/2006 19:00:02 Originally by: Mindlles Originally by: Zhon FIX has 22 men to put into a gang.... I thought FIX were Dead Seriously what rock were you bunch hiding under during the FIX/Huzzah war On Topic As many gave said those are Big shoes that will ahve be filled and Hans is a hard act to follow... Bla...bla...bla... You have definatly earned the respect of many including F-OFF. Will be interesting to see you sitting on the sidelines as a spectator. Whatever may come Good luck to Huzzah. There is power in numbers, no matter that everone else plays with bigger numbers. See u guys switched home again,, did Hans get to salty or was it sweet?. Or was the good minerals out, or did u just feel that huzza was dying so u had to run?.. Either way,, shyyy dont speak loud when u have as a bad reputation as u guys do. Tho Hans have done alot off good for a alliance as huzza, Gl in the future. For those of you who were huddled together under the rock during the Huzzah/FIX war here is a News Flash. News Flash Hince why we left Huzzah... We may not have the alliance logo in our bio anymore, but Hans can always call on us if he needs help. As for our reputation... By the way are you referring to the one where we retained the best Kills/Loss ratio in every alliance we have been in or the one where we had more than doubled the number of combat pilots than anyone else in alliance fleets? Hard to get keep track of these things... I guess knowing you guys you are referring to us leaving alliances that tend to backstab and leave their members out to dry. Oh well life goes on. Zhon puts his tech 2 Flame proof suit on and grabs a beer ---------
Avernus	Posted - 2006.06.27 21:07:00 - [37] Zhon, no offense but it's kinda hard to get to know a corp that doesn't like to fly with other alliance members. Your corpmates didn't like flying with FIX, and you didn't really like flying with HF either (before you say otherwise, we both know where the vast majority of FOFF pilots were for the duration of the fighting, and they were by themselves 95% of the time). It's hard to build up emotion towards a corp that you never get to know from flying next to them. I imagine it's pretty easy to find alliances letting you down when they don't live up to your expectations, but what were you expecting when you operate on such exclusive principals? Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.27 21:30:00 - [38] Originally by: Avernus Zhon, no offense but it's kinda hard to get to know a corp that doesn't like to fly with other alliance members. Your corpmates didn't like flying with FIX, and you didn't really like flying with HF either (before you say otherwise, we both know where the vast majority of FOFF pilots were for the duration of the fighting, and they were by themselves 95% of the time). It's hard to build up emotion towards a corp that you never get to know from flying next to them. I imagine it's pretty easy to find alliances letting you down when they don't live up to your expectations, but what were you expecting when you operate on such exclusive principals? No arguments there We do have high expectation of those that we fly with, but they are no diffrent than what we expect of ourselves. It is easy to determine what someone is capable of and whether or not they are living up to that. We were asked by Hans to be the border patrol in empire. That didnt stop us from Jump cloning down to FAT/V-2/5-N to kill people though. Same goes for FIX, we were asking to defend FAT. We did. I expect they we earn respect from our enemies easier than our allies ---------
Avernus	Posted - 2006.06.27 21:56:00 - [39] Zhon, it shouldn't be a secret that FOFF earned the respect from FIX it should have due to your corps actions. Your ability to translate that respect into a way to work with us rather than apart from us was what was lacking. A corporation that loneguns it the distance instead of seeking to strengthen the entity as a whole with your contribution can result in a corporation that is more of a detriment to the good of an alliance rather than a benefit. Failing to work with us was what seperated you from FIX... ditching at the worst possible moment doesn't leave a good taste behind... nor does switching sides shortly after. You expect a lot from yourselves, and push hard to attain the standards to which you measure things; good things to have in a corporation, but not to push upon others if you expect any sort of harmony in an alliance. Credit to Hans for using FOFF in what I'd perceive to be the correct manner to make the most of your corp in HF. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Silinary	Posted - 2006.06.28 01:30:00 - [40] Originally by: Avernus I have to admit a little confusion... I don't see why people are stating that HF was outnumbered and outgunned during those 3 engagements. We were in V2 ofc, a home system where I would expect the majority of HF pilots would have a stock of ships at hand. FIX gang numbers topped at about 22 pilots, while local was about 60 in total. Now not all those in local were engaged obviously, but we were most certainly equal in numbers, the logs from the battles tell the story very throughly. Plus, we lost a couple of ships each engagement, it adds up. As for outgunned.... it's your system, you choose what ships you want to fly. That said, we had an amazing amount of fun, by the end of it, a fair number of pilots logged in nearby systems because people were so tired. (We can fight outnumbered, but when the odds begin to climb above 5:1, and you have no support, or covert ops to help balance the odds, then you're just committing suicide; that is why some pilots logged out last night from safespots). Or Av, she's talking abotu the night after where we had about an 8 man raid. Once we hit CNC we were chaced down by an interdictor followed by a 21 man Huzzah gang. We looked at various options, but in the end, it was a scramble to SS. After quite a bit of time and no sign of letting up, some of us logged. I for one had to sleep, it was something like midnight and had work the next morn hehe. shrug, Ya win some, ya lose some, and sometimes, you jsut gotta wait it out or fall asleep trying. No matter how fast you turn your head, you'll never even catch a glimpse of what is going on around you...
Death Rayy	Posted - 2006.06.28 04:45:00 - [41] Hey WoW! What cool replies from enemies of huzzah wow, i hopE TBB have cool diplomatic relation's with our hidden behind MC enemies. What good sports u all are Fight strong fly well all. Dearth Rayy ... TBB
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.06.28 06:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Zhon Edited by: Zhon on 27/06/2006 19:00:28 Edited by: Zhon on 27/06/2006 19:00:02 For those of you who were huddled together under the rock during the Huzzah/FIX war here is a News Flash. News Flash Hince why we left Huzzah... We may not have the alliance logo in our bio anymore, but Hans can always call on us if he needs help. As for our reputation... By the way are you referring to the one where we retained the best Kills/Loss ratio in every alliance we have been in or the one where we had more than doubled the number of combat pilots than anyone else in alliance fleets? Hard to get keep track of these things... I guess knowing you guys you are referring to us leaving alliances that tend to backstab and leave their members out to dry. Oh well life goes on. Zhon puts his tech 2 Flame proof suit on and grabs a beer Ur stats was good?, Perhaps so, tho when u left fix i remmber how u guys screamd on the forums that ba destroyed ur last iskys, and everybody was mean to u guys :P.. Sry i could never take a corp serious that atleast follow some kind off codex exept then run when it get hot.. Sry but we can take this convo over some tea and blasters or just a plain chatt, no point to dissuse this in eve:o on a post that is there to give credit to Hans for doing a good job, as he have.
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.28 06:55:00 - [43] Edited by: Zhon on 28/06/2006 06:55:55 Originally by: Mindlles Ur stats was good?, Perhaps so, tho when u left fix i remmber how u guys screamd on the forums that ba destroyed ur last iskys, and everybody was mean to u guys :P.. Sry i could never take a corp serious that atleast follow some kind off codex exept then run when it get hot.. Sry but we can take this convo over some tea and blasters or just a plain chatt, no point to dissuse this in eve:o on a post that is there to give credit to Hans for doing a good job, as he have. Done, you bring the tea and we will remove you from your ship and take your blasters Anyways, seriously if you want to talk I wouldn't have any problem correcting you in your misconception of what actually happen. Either way it doesnt matter to me we have taken our blood and and will gladly let it die with that. ---------
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.06.28 07:03:00 - [44] Originally by: Zhon Edited by: Zhon on 28/06/2006 06:55:55 Originally by: Mindlles Ur stats was good?, Perhaps so, tho when u left fix i remmber how u guys screamd on the forums that ba destroyed ur last iskys, and everybody was mean to u guys :P.. Sry i could never take a corp serious that atleast follow some kind off codex exept then run when it get hot.. Sry but we can take this convo over some tea and blasters or just a plain chatt, no point to dissuse this in eve:o on a post that is there to give credit to Hans for doing a good job, as he have. Done, you bring the tea and we will remove you from your ship and take your blasters Anyways, seriously if you want to talk I wouldn't have any problem correcting you in your misconception of what actually happen. Either way it doesnt matter to me we have taken our blood and and will gladly let it die with that. My misconceptions?.. How could their be anny dear?. U guys run away from everything, U guys whined like a 10 year old minni girl that someone stole a lollipop from, when a merc corp attacked u. My point is, tell other ppl that they are hiding and such when u are the master off it.. Well dont feel right so i said something =)
Entilzah Valen	Posted - 2006.06.28 07:28:00 - [45] Originally by: Droewa As far as FoFF leaving in the middle of this war. It had nothing to do with a lack of effort on FIX part. in fact we went against our instincts to keep Foff happy and lost billions in ship doing it, why? because FAT was Foffs home. so even though it was a pos war which we had more of. the station was under no immediate threat and we had the entire region of Querious to tap into. We kept on throwing ships into FAT for one corp that refused to fall back to querious. AND THEN ONCE WE COULD DO IT NO MORE THEY LEFT!! So lets not judge FIX based on the view of one EX FIX corporation. Circa February 2006 ____________________________ A Haiku by Heraklitus Nomidzon Outbreak Guns Glowing Pod Fluid Turning Yellow The Gate is Too Far
Vlip	Posted - 2006.06.28 08:01:00 - [46] Originally by: Death Rayy Hey WoW! What cool replies from enemies of huzzah wow, i hopE TBB have cool diplomatic relation's with our hidden behind MC enemies. What good sports u all are Fight strong fly well all. Dearth Rayy ... TBB Heh, I love flying against FIX, really. They are mostly great guys. Last night a relatively big FIX gang came to FAT to do whatever FIX does in FAT. HF's gang engaged them a few occasions and the FIX gang decided to move back into Querious but the HF gang beat them to the RR gate in 25S and we started camping it. After a dozen minute stand-off, the FIX gang leader screamed "Leeroy Jenkins" in local and the FIX gang instaed on the gate and jumped through. We followed and managed to tackle and kill a few ships while the rest of the fleet warped away. I had a hard time finding the "jump" button so hard was I laughing.
Admentus Cor'vion	Posted - 2006.06.28 08:33:00 - [47] That was me. You will find me engaging 20 / 1 odds in Fat, tanked with my wits and delusions of invulnerability. Right now? I am Checking the belts in fat for good rats. _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.28 11:51:00 - [48] Originally by: Mindlles Originally by: Zhon Edited by: Zhon on 28/06/2006 06:55:55 Originally by: Mindlles Ur stats was good?, Perhaps so, tho when u left fix i remmber how u guys screamd on the forums that ba destroyed ur last iskys, and everybody was mean to u guys :P.. Sry i could never take a corp serious that atleast follow some kind off codex exept then run when it get hot.. Sry but we can take this convo over some tea and blasters or just a plain chatt, no point to dissuse this in eve:o on a post that is there to give credit to Hans for doing a good job, as he have. Done, you bring the tea and we will remove you from your ship and take your blasters Anyways, seriously if you want to talk I wouldn't have any problem correcting you in your misconception of what actually happen. Either way it doesnt matter to me we have taken our blood and and will gladly let it die with that. My misconceptions?.. How could their be anny dear?. U guys run away from everything, U guys whined like a 10 year old minni girl that someone stole a lollipop from, when a merc corp attacked u. My point is, tell other ppl that they are hiding and such when u are the master off it.. Well dont feel right so i said something =) Thought you were going to convo me...... ---------
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.06.28 12:24:00 - [49] Originally by: Zhon Thought you were going to convo me...... LOL and you are indeed delusional. I love how people read a sentence and asume they know how they story ended. Buy a clue or you can convo me for free one. So the posts that where made by foff that u guys where dieing and it was so bad that ba was shooting u was wrong?. That u left fat when living there when coaltion controlled it and fix attacked. Then got back in when the nap was set. Then when mass came back, u gave the station to fix and joined fix, then when fix got hot around their ears u left fix. And joined huzza.... Now u left huzza again and are suppose to be mercs,, .) So all does facts are wrong?.... And when u say i have misconception in public i respond to that. As said ealier. If u want to straight out ur name towards me convo me if u want. I have no intrest haveing this disscusion in public with u. Maybe i schouldnt even respond on ur first post. But as i feel so sick when i see players post against other players, when at the same time, they have sinked so low u can do as a podpilot in the new eden. I just have to respond
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.28 13:03:00 - [50] Edited by: Zhon on 28/06/2006 13:06:01 Originally by: Mindlles Originally by: Zhon Thought you were going to convo me...... LOL and you are indeed delusional. I love how people read a sentence and asume they know how they story ended. Buy a clue or you can convo me for free one. So the posts that where made by foff that u guys where dieing and it was so bad that ba was shooting u was wrong?. That u left fat when living there when coaltion controlled it and fix attacked. Then got back in when the nap was set. Then when mass came back, u gave the station to fix and joined fix, then when fix got hot around their ears u left fix. And joined huzza.... Now u left huzza again and are suppose to be mercs,, .) So all does facts are wrong?.... And when u say i have misconception in public i respond to that. As said ealier. If u want to straight out ur name towards me convo me if u want. I have no intrest haveing this disscusion in public with u. Maybe i schouldnt even respond on ur first post. But as i feel so sick when i see players post against other players, when at the same time, they have sinked so low u can do as a podpilot in the new eden. I just have to respond Lol I havnt said anything. Best to let people talk to themselves when they are clueless, makes them feel important BTW im still awaiting this convo since you didn't want to disrupt this thread with off topic banter. For someone who didoesnt have any interest of discussing it in public you sure talk alot of uninformed BS. ---------
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.06.28 13:31:00 - [51] Originally by: Zhon Lol I havnt said anything. Best to let people talk to themselves when they are clueless, makes them feel important BTW im still awaiting this convo since you didn't want to disrupt this thread with off topic banter. For someone who didoesnt have any interest of discussing it in public you sure talk alot of uninformed BS. I never said i would convo u. Read my post, i said u could convo me if u wanted to protect ur name. U attacked the little luber boy avernus. About hiding, And i just wonderd how u can speak about hiding with ur history off running away and bending over. Then u call me uninfomred. Sry where in my post am i wrong about the facts about u?. Nowhere. So go play merc now insteed!,, and see how long untill u need to run away from that =)
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.06.28 17:51:00 - [52] Originally by: Zhon Best to let people talk to themselves when they are clueless, makes them feel important Your corp switched at least 4 alliances. Now you are calling your opponent clueless for pointing that fact ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
meoff	Posted - 2006.06.28 18:32:00 - [53] Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Zhon Best to let people talk to themselves when they are clueless, makes them feel important Your corp switched at least 4 alliances. Now you are calling your opponent clueless for pointing that fact the opponents are, for not seeing them for what they are sooner
Admentus Cor'vion	Posted - 2006.06.28 19:44:00 - [54] Originally by: meoff Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Zhon Best to let people talk to themselves when they are clueless, makes them feel important Your corp switched at least 4 alliances. Now you are calling your opponent clueless for pointing that fact the opponents are, for not seeing them for what they are sooner You could say that, but then again in this game sometimes people hope that all are acting / speaking with the best of intentions. My personal opinion is that Riven has a major case of ants in the pants. _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Yodaron Ballsithor	Posted - 2006.06.28 20:36:00 - [55] Nothing has really changed for FoFF. Before there was a FIX we had to run them out of Q for causing problems. Trigger assisted in that particular endeavor. As for Hans, respect for talking a good game. No respect for ending a nap within a few seconds of putting up a cyno field. Actions speak louder than words, and your actions belie your outward appearance to Eve. In the end, however, respect for what you have accomplished with Huzzah and I wish you the best in game.
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.29 02:53:00 - [56] Originally by: Mindlles Originally by: Zhon Lol I havnt said anything. Best to let people talk to themselves when they are clueless, makes them feel important BTW im still awaiting this convo since you didn't want to disrupt this thread with off topic banter. For someone who didoesnt have any interest of discussing it in public you sure talk alot of uninformed BS. I never said i would convo u. Read my post, i said u could convo me if u wanted to protect ur name. U attacked the little luber boy avernus. About hiding, And i just wonderd how u can speak about hiding with ur history off running away and bending over. Then u call me uninfomred. Sry where in my post am i wrong about the facts about u?. Nowhere. So go play merc now insteed!,, and see how long untill u need to run away from that =) LOL I have know need to explain my self or our actions to you. You wern't envolved. You are a clueless by stander going off what a bunch of whining backstabing carebears have said because they couldn't sit and mine during a war anymore. In ever endevor envolving FAT said alliance has left us defending its space almost completly alone. In all cases when help was asked for it didnt come. FIX was no exception. When you have a 40 man gang and 20-30 of them are one corp that says something about an alliance. When one corporation has more capital ships than the rest of the entire alliance that says something aswell. So continue on thinking your little missguided delusional thoughts. For the record the only time we complained about your little Merc Wardecing was after we found out it was our allies in FIX who hired you. We actualy thought it was ISS and were content with ignoring you. It being FIX was a low blow and will not be forgiven anytime in the near future and least as far as I am concerned. That shows who the true cowards are and entire alliance afraid to openly attack one corporation. ---------
Sae Marr	Posted - 2006.06.29 03:33:00 - [57] If you feel you don't have to explain yourself, don't. This thread isn't about you or FoFF, it's about Hans. -
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.29 04:06:00 - [58] Tell that to Mindlles... I actually posted something relevant to the Original Poster. Instead of draging up the past.... and such a colorful misguided one at that. Anyways would like to see this thread back on topic so I won't post anymore to your comments. If you have any farther comemnts use you guns instead of your mouth. ---------
Avernus	Posted - 2006.06.29 06:18:00 - [59] Originally by: Zhon LOL I have know need to explain my self or our actions to you. You wern't envolved. You are a clueless by stander going off what a bunch of whining backstabing carebears have said because they couldn't sit and mine for personal profit during a war anymore. In ever endevor envolving FAT said alliance has left us defending its space almost completly alone. In all cases when help was asked for it didnt come. FIX was no exception. When you have a 40 man gang and 20-30 of them are one corp that says something about an alliance. When one corporation has more capital ships than the rest of the entire alliance that says something aswell. So continue on thinking your little missguided delusional thoughts. For the record the only time we complained about your little Merc Wardecing was after we found out it was our allies in FIX who hired you. We actualy thought it was ISS and were content with ignoring you. It being FIX was a low blow and will not be forgiven anytime in the near future and least as far as I am concerned. That shows who the true cowards are and entire alliance afraid to openly attack one corporation. LOL? So much for conversing with you while showing even a modicum of respect if that is what is returned in kind. I'll address the most concerning part first, the Battle Angels war dec on FOFF. To this day, I don't know who put the contract out, what I do know is that it was put out by an individual or small group of individuals. The contract wasn't put out by FIX, nor was it was put out by a FIX corporation either to the best of my knowledge. Whoever put out the contract never stepped forward. Do you honestly think that FIX as an entity would hesitate to go after FOFF out of fear? Misguided delusional thoughts indeed. You seem to like newsflashes Zhon, here is one for you: FAT was never supposed to be anything more than a buffer zone for FIX. 85% of FIX couldn't give a flying ** about that system when we held it, and nobody gives a ** about it now. Your pity case of a corporation was so damn attached to it though you felt the need to drag the rest of FIX into defending some backwater hole where noone had any invested emotion. Your corporation refused to pull back to Querious where FIX is at it's strongest, you refused to work with us, and you weakened the position of all FIX for it. Of course, you wouldn't realise that anyways, because you never cared to 'join' FIX, you were there to use FIX for your own goals. How easily you slight those few who did have an investment in FAT, and did put everything they had into it's defense. Dragons United, due to a misguided decision by others towards populating FAT, had moved there in full, and there is where they fought with all they had. Was JHENR not there, was OA not there? Odd how I can look back at the killboard records and see their involvement. Was I there? Hell no. FAT got turned into the bridge too far because of FOFF and your complete inability to function towards higher alliance goals. FAT is a buffer, and should have always remained so. Your divisive attitudes and superiority complex is the only lasting impression you've left upon us, along with a frank lesson on the nature of traitorous scum. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.06.29 06:26:00 - [60] Edited by: Mindlles on 29/06/2006 06:27:19 U have a way to scream misguided, and so on and so forth. But u cant say im wrong, so plz be quite now and play merc. Ps. U jumped on a topic and flamed our dear Av so sry, i had to respond to that, And u keep answering with misguided all the time.. I guess that all u can do, as u know im right =) Now for the last press on the post replay button in this topic. Zhon if u have some selfrespect as a fellow pod pilot, just be quite, so so so quite. And if u need to open ur mouth dont lie, my dear caldari mother told me it was bad to lie, so i dont. And for a other part. Hans, u done a great job for huzza, put the alliance where it is atm,
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.29 12:31:00 - [61] Originally by: Avernus LOL..... Ehh screw it so much for back on topic. Srry Hans, but im sure you enjoy reading this stuff more Puts his Flame suit on and grab a gun Firstly BA's Wardec was from FIX members and not just one person, but a group of persons. The response to it from FIX was a general state of satisfaction. You are responsible for your members action so shut up and take responsibility. As for FIX not going after F-OFF out fear you hit the nail on the head. You were not fighting Huzzah in Empire you were Fighting FoFF. That is the way we wanted it and how Hans played it. We were the only corp station there to fight you and you got your butts handed to you on a silver platter. Not just with ganking either you brought 20-30 man BS fleets on a number of occasions to our home station and ended up running back to Badi with your tails tucked firmly between your legs. Thank you for providing the exact statement from FIX I needed to show why we never merged with your pathetic alliance: "FAT was never supposed to be anything more than a buffer zone for FIX. 85% of FIX couldn't give a flying * about that system when we held it, and nobody gives a ** about it now."* Never mind that our corporation along with 3-4 other ones had everything invested in it. Us alone having over 10 billion isk worth of corporate asset in the station. FIX high command told us to defend FAT...Bla bla bla... and 85% of the alliance didn't give a **** to help. General statement to FIX not to those corporation that actually fought So you get upset when we drop you on your lazy good for nothing butts, because you donÆt want to help out your own alliance mates? What delusional world are you leaving in? We were never... I repeat NEVER told to pull back to Querious. The standing order up until the second we left was to DEFEND FAT AT ALL COST. Who used who, Majority of FIX used the corporation that were stationed in FAT as cannon fodder while they mined to build and Outpost and fill their wallets. As for our "slighting" the corporation that fought along side us we have done nothing of the sort. That fact of the matter is that it is easier to address FIX as a whole because of how few of you were actually fighting in FAT. When time came for Those Corporation to leave FAT when Huzzah took it Riven made sure they were given reprieve and spared their POS's and assets. SA would have just torched them and their assets. Unlike some people we do have honor. Before you ask we didn't join Huzzah to fight you either. We were just as surprised when Han's dropped that Cyno field in FAT as you. You werenÆt there..Oh really... what shocker... another clueless lamb. So I can asume that everything you have stated is a lie as you were not even envoled to know from personal experience. Talk about putting you foot in your mouth. As for Lieing Midlles you guys seem to be the only ones being deceatful and untruthful. ---------
Avernus	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:28:00 - [62] Zhon, I'll call you ignorant, delusional and craven, and cast accusations in your face; you can do likewise towards me. It's painfully obvious we'll never see eye to eye, we'll never agree on what happened, but I know we can agree to kill each other on sight. Anything else is an exercise in wasted forum space. Nuff said. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:35:00 - [63] Not unless I get paid too ---------
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.06.29 19:14:00 - [64] Originally by: Zhon Not unless I get paid too Yeah i was neither in fix, or huzza during the time, i mostly shoot at u all during the time.. Tho am i wrong FOFF always run away/swop sides. Im not, Im i wrong one off ur members cryed on a alliance forum that u where dieing and how evil everybody was against u. No. Where am i lying in my posts?. No u cant say, so plz now before u make ur self look even more stuipd,, sry,, nvm.. with ur its impossible.. nvm
Zhon	Posted - 2006.06.29 20:19:00 - [65] Originally by: Mindlles Edited by: Mindlles on 29/06/2006 19:50:21 ahh nvm cant be arsed talk more with a run and hide then brag about it person Well seeing how I got the pleasure of reading what you really wrote before you edited it I will answer it. The only hint of truth you have said thus far is that People were getting **ed at FIX and arguing on their forums to such a degree that pretty much everyone is Banned from the FIX forums now. There a big diffrence between crying and whining and yelling and cussing at someone for being a back stabing *. If you want to call us for for that then yeah we were ed. Just like FIX was **ed at us for killing them in empire in empire repeatedly day after day. As for BA kicking our ass that happens when all of your ships are in one place, your men in another, and all the resources scatter over 23 jumps. We were in no condition to be fighting a merc corporation at the time and I can easily admit that. We finally just ignored you since we couldnt get anything done. I like to see you try it now. Somehow I think that if 2 Merc corps and FIX couldnt beat us, then a snowball would have a better chance in hel than you. As for Running away and hidding and then braggin about that seem to be Outbreaks/FIX's forte and not ours. We never Ran away and then bragged about it to someone, because frankly why would you? You are making your self sound more and more clueless with every post. You have repeated the same thing 3-4 times now and frankly it is old. If that is really all you have on us then you should consider wihdrawling from this debate since your rebuttal is weak. Im done with this converstations as you don't really have any farther grounds to type on Now sit down shut up and use your guns to fight instead of you mouth. ---------
Admentus Cor'vion	Posted - 2006.06.29 21:07:00 - [66] If the mods can lock this thread please, Zhon has sufficently made an ass of himself and the thread is completely derailed. _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.06.29 21:28:00 - [67] Thanks for the kind words though when it was on topic. President Huzzah Federation Play EVE on the hard setting, join us.
Avernus	Posted - 2006.06.29 21:52:00 - [68] My apologies for my contribution towards the derailment of this thread. Av. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.06.29 22:14:00 - [69] Yeah sry for chaning topic. And yeah zhon.....
HuDDy	Posted - 2006.06.29 22:35:00 - [70] Zhon u really have a baised view not suprisin really but i just have 1 thing to say 2 u Dragons United based in FAT same as FOFF fought just as hard as FOFF for FAT but stayed the course with FIX and was willing to do just about anything for FIX unlike FOFF so get off ya high horse will ya u guys jumped ship end off.... ps sorry Hans
Randay	Posted - 2006.06.29 23:02:00 - [71] I would love to bash on foff but looks like I missed the party, but I still have to add this little gem from FIX forums: Quote: I always though that "foff" took their name from the sound of a windsock when it starts pointing in a new dircetion ------------------------------------------- Apparently the Swedish language is against the rules of the forums.

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.06.29 23:10:00 - [72] Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion If the mods can lock this thread please, Zhon has sufficently made an ass of himself and the thread is completely derailed. My pleasure. ___

Marko Debreault	Posted - 2006.06.29 23:14:00 - [73] Originally by: Zhon As for Running away and hidding and then braggin about that seem to be Outbreaks/FIX's forte and not ours. This sort of posturing can't end well for you, Zhon. Let's make something clear. Outbreak enjoys nursing some old animosities based on past conflicts. We love to hate them, if you know what I mean. In most cases its the sort of enmity that is the flip side of the coin from respect; a good enemy deserves respect. Some of us hold this attitude towards HF and FoFF. Clearly with yourself and Mindlles there is less of the respect and more the hatred. Thats between the two of you and I don't care about it. But when you insult my entire corporation, my 'friendly' desire to destroy your ships is transformed. Every time I read the above quote I get a little angrier. Outbreak has some plans, but they can wait a few weeks. If you want a repeat of the Battle Angels contract on your warp core stabbed mission running asses just keep spouting off. You can come up with excuses until it makes you feel better about how hard Battle Angels owned you, but the only real truth is that we are much, much better than you. And now that Battle Angels has merged with the Triad to form Outbreak, we are much, much bigger than you.

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