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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.07.02 14:02:00 -
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its quite sad that when people have been complaining for months that there was too little variety in the offer system that ccp actually reduce the variety even further.
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Paper Pusher
Its been over a WEEK? and still no Response to my Petition about the Rewards System being BROKEN.
If it wasnt "Broke" or was just a "nerf" I feel they would have at least responded to my Petition. That Implies to me there is a Problem and they have NO IDEA on what to do about it.
Do we have to do it as a "Report a Bug"?
I thinks its Strange that we havent herd ANY comment 1 way or the other , from anyone connected to CCP.
as other people have tried to explain to you the LP system for agent offers and the RP system for r&d agents are 2 completely separate entities and work in different ways.
For lps there is a table of offers that u receive random offers from depending on the number of lps u have. there are no limits to the number of people who can receive the same offer.
what people are expressing concern about in this thread is that the number of different types of offer in this table was reduced in the static update last week.
the r&d system works differently. there are a set number of bpos in each research field. when RMR was released last december a batch of new tech2 items were introduced into the game. each bpo is assigned to a research field and these bpos are then randomly allocated via a lottery system to people with rps in the relevant research field. once all the bpos associated with that research field have been allocated then the staus of that research field is changed to show "nothing easily predictable".
all the issue you have petitioned means is that all the tech2 bpos associated with the research fields in question have now been given out.
this is working exactly as intended.
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.07.03 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe
are you the dev alt to say it works exactly as intended?
if it works as intended, then why different people get different SAME TYPE of offers from all of their agents
I could believe that for example each agent has now only 1 offer he ever offers, but then why all the agents give the same offer? At least one of them could have something different from 10 of others. It doesn't seems to be corp-related even as I have agents in different corps and divisions, and they all give ONLY the "gift for things" offers. Same for other character.
try reading my post.
i have agreed that the situation with LP offers is broken.
the person i was answering also seems to suggest that the r&d agents are broken as his research field shows "nothing easily predicted". it is the r&d aspect that i said is working correctly.
to repeat, try reading my post next time.
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:55:00 -
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to paper pusher
no i dont work for CCP but having played the game for over 2 years, spend alot of time on the fourms, read every dev blog, read all the links to dev chats or interviews posted and most importantly follow closely any forum posts related to missions and mission changes i think i have a fairly good idea of how things work.
in a recent response from zrakor he indicated that one of their intentions was to remove alot of the deadwood from the lp offers table. this would focus on the offers that are rarely, if ever, accepted by players. it looks like this was done in the static update 2 weeks ago.
the end result of this has left a lack of variety in the offer table which is meaning people are getting the same type of offers repeated.
as far as your previous rants they seemed wholly focussed on the r&d system and the fact that your research agents were showing "nothing easily predictable" which is completely unrelated to loyalty points.
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.07.04 13:22:00 -
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u might want to check paragraph 5 in the attached post by zrakor.
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.07.04 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe
Originally by: mrg29
u might want to check paragraph 5 in the attached post by zrakor.
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ok .. let's try again.
pre-patch:
I get mining crystal offers and "gift..." offers and some others,
post-patch:
I get ONLY "gift..." offers,
But some other guy gets ONLY mining crystal offers.
Now tell me, if crystal offers weren't removed from the table, why dont' I get them at all? As well as some other good offers still in the table, like ship offers.
If they only removed crap offers we would still get different remaining offers. What we have now could only be caused by a new bug which causes offer system to not show all eligible offers to some (if not all) of people, only giving them one type of offer all the time.
maybe coz its been less than 2 weeks since they changed it and the offers available at the range of lps u currently have dont include other offer types.
dont get me wrong here i am as unhappy about the current situation as u r.
over the last 12 months we have seen the variety of items available through lp offers reduced at almost every patch. alot of the offers previously available were so out of sync with market values that no-one in their right mind would take them.
what we have been left with is a situation where the limited nature of offers left means supply of certain items will increase, the price will drop thus making lps worth less. 120k lps gets u 8 +3 implants, using int implants as an example, a few weeks ago those 8 implants would have got u 250-300 mill on the market. now u r lucky to get 200 mill for them. thats a 20-30% reduction in return for your lps.
what we need is for more variety to be added to the offer table again. faction mods or bpcs for faction mods, faction ammo or more trade goods, POS items etc.
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.07.05 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Paper Pusher
to Mrg29
You are wrong.
1 Simple fact. Rewards AND Reasearch are BOTH broken.
Look at the proof people have posted (and then you flamed them for it).
I Personally Confirm that with a variety of LP's that the offers har Extremly lopsided and ALSO I checked on the Research Agents. It Impossable to belive that "ALL" of them gave out "ALL" of thier BP's at the "SAME TIME"
Stop attacking people that give proof and you do have an attitude as if you were an Employee for CCP. Back up and let the players post FACTS
excuse me.
the only person i have corrected is yourself and that is because you clearly do not understand how t2 bpos are issued by r&d agents as at least one other person in this thread also pointed out to you.
the last time new tech2 bpos were intorduced into the game was RMR which is now 8 months ago.
since that time they have gradually been seeded to players via the lottery system.
the reason all r&d agents are now showing "nothing easily predictable" is that the finite number of bpos available have now been issued. it is probable that ccp updated the research field info and the agent info in the static update they did last week that is why it appears it all happened at the same time.
i even posted a link to a DEV post where they stated that alot of the deadwood was going to be removed from the offer system and that they would only be leaving those offers which people took with any regularity.
now u can choose to believe or disbelieve me but i do not think a single thing i have stated anywhere in this thread is incorrect.
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