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Volkon
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:20:00 -
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Hi Guys,
Just a thread here to ask your opinions on on weather you think Blasterthrons are overpowerd.
Me personally dont think they are, you have to train for months and months to be any good in one, i agree with the fact that Tech II drones do deal a little to much damage with good skills so basically your useing 12 Guns, but overall the Blasterthron is only as good as its pilot what with skills ect.
What do you guys think?
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Terminus Shade
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:23:00 -
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NO. They are not overpowered.
End of story.
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never2be
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: never2be on 26/06/2006 11:23:26
i think it is overpowred, can do dammage in the region of 1.2K dps, anything at close range will just die to it.
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:23:00 -
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It isn't overpowered, it just does what it does better than anyone...well cept the Raven... 
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Skva
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:24:00 -
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Training for a long time to be good at using a ship is a poor excuse for the ship to be overpowered. Also, T2 drones don't deal THAT much damage. Certainly not the 1 drone = 1 gun you mentioned.
Anyway, that said, agreed it's not overpowered.
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Nastro Azzura
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:24:00 -
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Just to let you know, you will be flamed to kingdom come, for even suggesting that it MIGHT be overpowered.
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Phelan Lore
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:24:00 -
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Blasterthrons might be overpowered, but only projectiles can be overpowdered.
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:25:00 -
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 Originally by: never2be
Edited by: never2be on 26/06/2006 11:23:26
i think it is overpowred, can do dammage in the region of 1.2K dps, anything at close range will just die to it.
Just post a setup that deals 1.2 k damage/s and can kill off a raven
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Logi3
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:25:00 -
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Yup, needs a good investment in skills to make it worth it. Its also a high risk setup. Unlike a Tempest sitting 70km firing off Tech II Artilery, your up close and in there face risking being webbed, scrambled etc
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munchy
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:25:00 -
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tbh i think it is slightly, a good blasterthron pilot will usually beat a pilot of equal skill in their chosen battleship. but the blasterthron can be difficult to fly without experience, theres alot of things to watch i.e. transversal, cap, cap boosters left, when to turn your mwd on/off. they can be a b*tch to fit sometimes too.
a good t2 torp raven or a good autopest will take a blasterthron without too much trouble, but it all depends on the pilot tbh.
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Hoshi Takasu
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: never2be
Edited by: never2be on 26/06/2006 11:23:26
i think it is overpowred, can do dammage in the region of 1.2K dps, anything at close range will just die to it.
Just post a setup that deals 1.2 k damage/s and can kill off a raven
lol theres no way a mega can do 1.2k dps...
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Volkon
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Volkon on 26/06/2006 11:27:25
Originally by: Skva
Training for a long time to be good at using a ship is a poor excuse for the ship to be overpowered. Also, T2 drones don't deal THAT much damage. Certainly not the 1 drone = 1 gun you mentioned.
Anyway, that said, agreed it's not overpowered.
Im sorry mate, but they are pretty insane on damage, i know a guy who has 4 plus mill SP in drones, he gets wrecks on cruisers of 400... And i started this thread purely because of the fact that all my mates think it is overpowered, so im asking for opinions as i dont think they are.
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Kael D'mende
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:29:00 -
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imho they are kinda crasy, dont know if i would "gong" the imba bell, but had a test with one, and i could'nt tank him in a raven with 2 amps and a full crystal set, thats pretty crasy :O)
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DarKDruG
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:31:00 -
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The blasterthron is (when used with t2 drones) the highest dps ship in EVE that i know of. As a tradeoff: you have to actually get close enough to your target, which is not always a pic-nic.
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FawKa
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:32:00 -
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Anyone that think its overpowered havent been able to fly one.
Tracking, range, not much ew, etc..
Lots of dmg yes, lots of skills required yes, and as Munchy said, you cant just fly one in pvp like any other BS. end.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:33:00 -
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If you let me inside 10km with my Blasterthron, you will die, unless you too are using a Blasterthron with superior skills/setup/dash of luck than I have. You will also beat me if you fly an Autotempest with a modicum of skill and stay beyond web range. You will beat me if you have 2mil SP and fly a Torpedo ECM Raven. You will beat me if you use any sort of Electronic trickery whatsoever.
I am not overpowered. Or Overpowdered, as the case may be.
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: never2be
Edited by: never2be on 26/06/2006 11:23:26
i think it is overpowred, can do dammage in the region of 1.2K dps, anything at close range will just die to it.
Just post a setup that deals 1.2 k damage/s and can kill off a raven
I know of one 
Although if you don't start in Blaster-range then you lose
Either way, I think the Blasterthron is about right. it does do insane damage but when fitted like that, it has little/no tank. It also has big cap issues still (although they aren't as cippling as they were, they certainly don't help). Currently though, until the Raven is fixed (i.e. nerfed a bit), no other BS can be (comparitively) classed as overpowered.
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman
If you let me inside 10km with my Blasterthron, you will die, unless you too are using a Blasterthron with superior skills/setup/dash of luck than I have. You will also beat me if you fly an Autotempest with a modicum of skill and stay beyond web range. You will beat me if you have 2mil SP and fly a Torpedo ECM Raven. You will beat me if you use any sort of Electronic trickery whatsoever.
I am not overpowered. Or Overpowdered, as the case may be.
Yarr.
Yeh a good armageddon pilot will easily kill off a megathron. If some ammar disagrees i have my answer ready
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:41:00 -
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They're only overpowered in the eyes of fools that can't look past "oh lotsa damage" and see what it takes to get that damage and do that damage, and the huge number of things that will completely shut you down in seconds....
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FFGR
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:45:00 -
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Blasterthron overpowered ? hardly
They have problems going up close, need high skill setups and experience to use one properly.
Drones aren't that big and bad also.
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: FFGR
Drones aren't that big and bad also.
Got to agree. People who complain that Megathron gets it's drones AS WELL as it's high-damage guns often forget that the Armageddon has the same 5x heavy drone carrying abilities as the megathron
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: FFGR
Drones aren't that big and bad also.
Got to agree. People who complain that Megathron gets it's drones AS WELL as it's high-damage guns often forget that the Armageddon has the same 5x heavy drone carrying abilities as the megathron
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Laboratus
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
They're only overpowered in the eyes of fools that can't look past "oh lotsa damage" and see what it takes to get that damage and do that damage, and the huge number of things that will completely shut you down in seconds....
So true. A single t1 tracking distruptor will kill the tracking and the range on that thing so bad it makes you want to cry. Not to mention ECM, as it has no spare mid slots to counter, as it desperatly needs MWD, Cap booster, sensor booster and tracking comp to actually play ball.
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Spaced Skunk
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:50:00 -
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Your looking it from a megathron pilot point of view. Look at gallente and thier basic advatages over disadvantages;
Drones;
Advantages
Choice of damage type
45KM with scout drone 5 range, fly to target
Insane DPS for what they are
Seperate Targets
For there size, I beleive there HP is a bit much
Even on a non-drone boat ship, like the mega, they do enough damage to be used as primary weapon.
Disadvantages
Can shoot em down
AI is still poor, but thats just a meh.. disadvantage
Hybrids;
Advantages
Close and long range dps is very high
Fit well, I mean, I need fittiing modules on a tempest to fit a full rack of 1400s...but mega with 7 X 425MM...yup fits..
Blasters are true close range, Amarr and minny arent too effective at 500ms, therefore easier to fly.
Hybrids...longest optimal
Caldari also use hybrids...2 options there.
Disadvantages
Use a bit of cap..meh
Tracking can be a problem...but thats guns in general..
Gallente ships in general have decent highs meds and lows, a sizable drone bay, nice tankers, nice fitting..
Everything like jamming, tracking disrupting, cap neut/nos, that affects every race..
Situations like...ahhh crap hes out of blaster range...wait I can warp away...Get in 20KM drones do the damage while you get up close...cap neut...affects every race...
OK Megathron is SP intensive...I dont care...if it tanks well and does more dps than any other non-gallente, its overpowered....or other races are underpowered...peronally gallente has been boosted in every main patch since I have played.
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Laboratus
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: R31D
Got to agree. People who complain that Megathron gets it's drones AS WELL as it's high-damage guns often forget that the Armageddon has the same 5x heavy drone carrying abilities as the megathron
As well as the Typhoon.
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:52:00 -
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Its like, every ******* has learned a new word today and they want to use it in a sentance.
Let CCP figure out what has more power.
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Spaced Skunk
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
Its like, every ******* has learned a new word today and they want to use it in a sentance.
Let CCP figure out what has more power.
It took them like 2 years to nerf the thorax...
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Laboratus
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Spaced Skunk
Your looking it from a megathron pilot point of view. Look at gallente and thier basic advatages over disadvantages;
Drones;
Advantages
Choice of damage type
45KM with scout drone 5 range, fly to target
Insane DPS for what they are
Seperate Targets
For there size, I beleive there HP is a bit much
Even on a non-drone boat ship, like the mega, they do enough damage to be used as primary weapon.
Disadvantages
Can shoot em down
AI is still poor, but thats just a meh.. disadvantage
Take 10 to 120s to reach target and actually do any damage, so it kinda negates the dps. And you can only have 1 "reload" of large drones with you, so you really can only do 1 damage type at once.
Hybrids;
Advantages
Close and long range dps is very high
Fit well, I mean, I need fittiing modules on a tempest to fit a full rack of 1400s...but mega with 7 X 425MM...yup fits..
If you haven't noticed they suffer from CPU fitting problems. The Gallantean ships have **** for CPU
Blasters are true close range, Amarr and minny arent too effective at 500ms, therefore easier to fly.
Too close range, with max skills they do better average dps then the torps at only 6-7km range, as such mega pulses or torps are better as close range weapons by a huge margin.
Hybrids...longest optimal
Caldari also use hybrids...2 options there.
Disadvantages
Use a bit of cap..meh
Tracking can be a problem...but thats guns in general..
Gallente ships in general have decent highs meds and lows, a sizable drone bay, nice tankers, nice fitting..
Yea, you can actually have a good tank and fittings or have the cap mods needed to run those mods. You can't do both. If the enemy is not dead in 2 minutes, you are out of cap and out of luck.
Everything like jamming, tracking disrupting, cap neut/nos, that affects every race..
Situations like...ahhh crap hes out of blaster range...wait I can warp away...Get in 20KM drones do the damage while you get up close...cap neut...affects every race...
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Dog Food
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Spaced Skunk
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
Its like, every ******* has learned a new word today and they want to use it in a sentance.
Let CCP figure out what has more power.
It took them like 2 years to nerf the thorax...
Took them 3 years to boost blasters, your point?
Blasters didnt need a boost.
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:21:00 -
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I think the mega is rather balanced. The cap use along with the MWD penalty is still an issue somewhat, but otherwise I think it fares well where it's supposed to: up close, while other battleships not specialized in as close a range will best it if they are sufficiently more skilled, and vice versa a skilled mega stands better a chance at longer starting distances.
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