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LaVista
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Posted - 2006.06.26 18:39:00 -
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So, basicly i just did, once again, a big mistake.
I bought a retriever for my alt. I set it up on escrow(And yes, i admit it, for 0 isk, and no explicit name, which is VERY stupid by me). Not a SINGLE second after that, it was gone, poof, gone forever.
I have seen a few topics on this. But i do not remember, what CCP is saying about this.
Will CCP reimburst people, if they got pwned by this stupid bots?
I know im gonna get flamed now.. But i really just wanted to now. Not that 12mill is alot, but it makes me 12mill even far away from a tempest 
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.06.26 18:45:00 -
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They certainly are annoying, everytime I want to claim those 0.0 isk escrows the bot was faster n me 
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Domain Diva
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Posted - 2006.06.26 18:49:00 -
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Even if they could detect who's using them, its highly doubtful they'll do anything about escrow bots considering they do sod all about people using mining bots these days 
Bots for all, or enforce your eula ccp
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2006.06.26 18:51:00 -
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1) Silly you
2) Don't do it again
3) You won't get a reimbursment for an act of extreme sillyness
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Valator Uel
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Posted - 2006.06.26 18:56:00 -
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Brutor the point is not him doing something silly but rather CCP seemingly doing nothing about Bots and cheaters...
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LaVista
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Posted - 2006.06.26 18:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Brutor Shaun
1) Silly you
2) Don't do it again
3) You won't get a reimbursment for an act of extreme sillyness
You are complete off topic. Go away.
I were asking for CCP's opinion, not YOUR!!
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Vatheric Selenium
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:01:00 -
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if there are actually bots it should be pretty easy for CCP to detect them. They just have to put a few 0 isk items on escrow. If the bots are really smart, they'll need to put something on escrow that actually appears valuable but isn't. If the bots are dumb they can use trash.
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:02:00 -
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It's not allowed, but you won't be reimbursed.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:03:00 -
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I agree. If there were no-one else on escrow, I could have claimed your 0 ISK escrows.
I demand re-imbursement for the missed opportunity 
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:22:00 -
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make a few thousand bm copies, select them all and escrow for 0 isk, rinse and repeat at several stations, give the escrow bots a lot to feed on, and when the owner wants to see what they got with their ILLEGAL (ccp law) tool, they will be lagged to death.
let them petition and the GMs will see just how many of the 0 isk escrows they claimed within moments of being placed, and have to explain themselves (or get permabanned).
If escrow was altered to force manual acceptance (graphical letters used that must be typed in to accept the transaction, same as many forums do now)this wouldn't be an issue any longer.
Three alpha numeric symbols would deter the escrow-bots.
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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:53:00 -
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then its a good thing the escrow system is gonna be replaced within a few months
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:55:00 -
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Wire all your Isk into the corp wallet or to an alt.
Filter escrow by affordable offers.
Don't hesitate grabbing any offer.
Lame but it works even without a bot.
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:58:00 -
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Do these bots actually exist? I've never heard about it apart from alts on the forum or someone trying to prove it... Poorly.
However I do know many people who escrow snipe..
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:21:00 -
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CCP is aware of the existance of escrow bots and generally perma-bans bot users that are caught. As with other third-party applications, cheats and hacks, the best insurance is to just play the game as it was intended.
kieron
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:23:00 -
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theres a video about it on :: a place that i am not going to mention cos im not an evil person ::
i hope the users of the bot get shot in the head multiple times  cheating is bad mmm'kay
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LaVista
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
CCP is aware of the existance of escrow bots and generally perma-bans bot users that are caught. As with other third-party applications, cheats and hacks, the best insurance is to just play the game as it was intended.
I thank alot for the answer.
Im gonna wait and see whatever a nice GM wanna give me my retriever back 
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Chaddy
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista
Originally by: kieron
CCP is aware of the existance of escrow bots and generally perma-bans bot users that are caught. As with other third-party applications, cheats and hacks, the best insurance is to just play the game as it was intended.
I thank alot for the answer.
Im gonna wait and see whatever a nice GM wanna give me my retriever back
Oh god, i hate those alts. I didn't realise before now that i had been posting on my alt. LMAO!!
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Emily Spankratchet
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
Do these bots actually exist?
Yes, they do. But I'll have to leave that as an unverifiable assertion, because I don't want to break any forum rules.
Myself, I don't see the point. I play EvE to have fun, not cheat my way to more ISK. I get enough of the rat-race at work.
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
The best insurance is to just play the game as it was intended.
I'm really glad now that I dont use instas, otherwise I would have been banned right?
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Glassback
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:50:00 -
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I didnt even know they existed.
G.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Jojin
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:55:00 -
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They exist. After reading this I decided to test it out. I kept putting up 1 unit of ammo and 1/2 the time before I could switch over to see all affordable (only left 1 isk on alt), the item was gone.
I would assume it would not take long to track it, but then again manpower is still manpower.
If you wanted to help the cause just throw up some useless crap all over the galaxy. Eventually it will either tick the botter off or make it plain from the escrow logs just who is doing it.
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Malkavian Spirit
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:58:00 -
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just add 2000 bms escrow for 0 isk to teach them a lesson
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Kalaan Oratay
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Posted - 2006.06.26 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Malkavian Spirit
just add 2000 bms escrow for 0 isk to teach them a lesson
CCP do this and warn everyone that claims in less then a second. Nothing like an offical GM warning to bring on the cold sweats
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.06.26 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia
theres a video about it on :: a place that i am not going to mention cos im not an evil person ::
i hope the users of the bot get shot in the head multiple times cheating is bad mmm'kay
If it's the video I saw, it's definately not definitive proof (the guy who kept putting ammo on escrow?), but kieron's answer is of course official 
Tho people I know still manage to snipe escrow despite these bots existing.. which is surprising 
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2006.06.26 21:34:00 -
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What makes you think this case was a bot, though?
I'm in a channel in-game, where every person in the channel checks escrow every 30 seconds for escrow mistakes.
Just because it went away in seconds doesn't mean it was a bot.
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:28:00 -
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Ok How about an experiment. Everybody at 10pm tonight, create nothing but 0 escrows (thousands) (fill em with bookmarks or 1 piece of ammo or something). Assuming that its people who are picking them up, after the first 3 or 4 they'd stop cause of escrow flood.
The bot will probably take them all. So have everybody create a massive amount of escrows, and see how fast they fly.
If its people, they won't be taken.. If they aren't people, expect them to go bye bye.
Eitherway, all ya need to do is fill up their hangar with 1000+ items.
But smart bots will probably delete bookmarks (but hey, least CCP will have ALOT of good info on who the bots are).
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Jones
Ok How about an experiment. Everybody at 10pm tonight, create nothing but 0 escrows (thousands) (fill em with bookmarks or 1 piece of ammo or something). Assuming that its people who are picking them up, after the first 3 or 4 they'd stop cause of escrow flood.
The bot will probably take them all. So have everybody create a massive amount of escrows, and see how fast they fly.
If its people, they won't be taken.. If they aren't people, expect them to go bye bye.
Eitherway, all ya need to do is fill up their hangar with 1000+ items.
But smart bots will probably delete bookmarks (but hey, least CCP will have ALOT of good info on who the bots are).
How about this is a bad idea?
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Defenzer
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Posted - 2006.06.27 01:59:00 -
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I can see how people would be annoyed at themselves (to put it mildly) if they put a valuable item on escrow for 0.00 ISK and found out after it was too late that they made a horrible mistake.
But let's be honest... how big of a problem are macroers or scripters who take advantage of this? Even if they did not exist, there are plenty of players who farm the escrow system so the escrow's creator would likely never get their items back anyway. Exactly what problem would you fix if all of the escrow macroers were removed? People who placed 0.00 ISK escrows would still never see their items again.
To have CCP focus on this problem when there are so many other problems is a poor use of resources. If you must focus on macro users, focus on miners. They are the ones who potentially skew the economy. Escrow macros do nothing but accelerate the transfer of goods from one player (who made a mistake) to another. This isn't creating wealth, it is just transferring it at high speed.
Like I said... People who place 0.00 ISK escrows would likely never see their items again whether or not there were escrow macros.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.06.27 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
CCP is aware of the existance of escrow bots and generally perma-bans bot users that are caught. As with other third-party applications, cheats and hacks, the best insurance is to just play the game as it was intended.
nice, did the guy who i sent that petition about my lost stuff was a bot aswell?
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Rutoo
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:09:00 -
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Special Thanks goes out the the escrow bot who claimed my rapier for 0.0 isk no no thank you .
Silly me put the name in the description feild :(
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