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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.10 16:56:00 -
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Upon being decloaked by an item in space there should be a notification in the notifications list of who/what decloaked you.
If it is a drone it should also state the owner if the person is still connected to it.
Of course this is personally motivated idea as people get decloaked by fleet mates, leave you dead but you have no trace of finding if and who warped to you just that a random passerby alt killed your decloaked self.
I got idea, ha ha! but i didn't check if it was requested already.
it wasn't in the tl;dr list of requested stuff so thought it was fair game. |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
107
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:43:00 -
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Henry Plantgenet wrote:Upon being decloaked by an item in space there should be a notification in the notifications list of who/what decloaked you.
If it is a drone it should also state the owner if the person is still connected to it.
Of course this is personally motivated idea as people get decloaked by fleet mates, leave you dead but you have no trace of finding if and who warped to you just that a random passerby alt killed your decloaked self.
I got idea, ha ha! but i didn't check if it was requested already.
it wasn't in the tl;dr list of requested stuff so thought it was fair game.
Try paying attention to your surroundings. Someone or something has to be within 2000m of you to decloak you. If you can't manage to keep yourself more than that tiny distance away from others, that's a personal problem.
Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2067
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Posted - 2014.07.10 18:40:00 -
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if anything, there should be a more noticeable UI change, other than the faint green glow on your cloak symbol fading. when your camera is zoomed out too far, you may not notice the cloak going away and the green circle is very easy to overlook, especially if you are colorblind.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Linkxsc162534
Traps 'R' Us
Advanced Amateurs
89
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Posted - 2014.07.10 18:57:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:if anything, there should be a more noticeable UI change, other than the faint green glow on your cloak symbol fading. when your camera is zoomed out too far, you may not notice the cloak going away and the green circle is very easy to overlook, especially if you are colorblind.
Maybe a circle that appears around your ship for a couple seconds to help notify you.
Im not colorblind but i have had friends of mine whining over the lack of being able to see some of the current notifiers in the game (primarily redboxing. They see the yellow, not the red) |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.10 19:12:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:if anything, there should be a more noticeable UI change, other than the faint green glow on your cloak symbol fading. when your camera is zoomed out too far, you may not notice the cloak going away and the green circle is very easy to overlook, especially if you are colorblind.
Agreed. I've been decloaked so many times because I was focused on another screen and cloaked ship was zoomed out far. |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1773
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:12:00 -
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something that says uve just been decloaked would be handy. doesnt have to tell me what it was, just that i am now standing out like an ice cream van in the sahara.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2709
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:20:00 -
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Actually something like this was mentioned to ccp WhiteNoise Trash and it seemed to have some traction with him so it may be a runner,
I can't remember exactly his response on it but it seemed positive if I remember correctly,
though it was in relation to a ui noise informing you of the state of the cloke
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Hopelesshobo
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
266
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:26:00 -
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Linkxsc162534 wrote:
Im not colorblind but i have had friends of mine whining over the lack of being able to see some of the current notifiers in the game (primarily redboxing. They see the yellow, not the red)
Wait, it actually goes from yellow to red?
Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
193
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:32:00 -
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Don't they add a cycle timer like they did for reloads in Crius? That will visually show you the moment you de-cloak, since the timer starts running.
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1773
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:40:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Don't they add a cycle timer like they did for reloads in Crius? That will visually show you the moment you de-cloak, since the timer starts running.
May do. havent had it happen.
But being uncloaked unintentionally is a big deal and quite often goes unnoticed by the pilot. So often in fact its common practice for gang mates to shout out on comms when they see a friendly uncloak without prior notice.
On top of that i imagine its common to do PI while cloaked, and ur modules on the UI are not visible when ur in planet mode.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
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Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:42:00 -
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There is a green flashing ring around an active cloaking device.
There is no green flashing ring around an inactive cloaking device.
Problem solved.
Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
112
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:51:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Don't they add a cycle timer like they did for reloads in Crius? That will visually show you the moment you de-cloak, since the timer starts running. May do. havent had it happen. But being uncloaked unintentionally is a big deal and quite often goes unnoticed by the pilot. So often in fact its common practice for gang mates to shout out on comms when they see a friendly uncloak without prior notice. On top of that i imagine its common to do PI while cloaked, and ur modules on the UI are not visible when ur in planet mode.
All you have to do is point yourself away from anything that can decloak you and you won't be decloaked. Pick a safe spot, warp to 100, fly random direction.
Judging by posts in this thread, you people need more instruction on how to fly a cloaked ship, not more coded shiney features. The only time I have ever been unwillingly decloaked has been at gate camps, which no amount of 'you've now been decloaked' messages would have helped.
Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.07.10 21:28:00 -
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Voice of Aura would sound cool. "You're ship has been decloaked by external factors" or something like that. |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
452
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Posted - 2014.07.11 01:32:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Don't they add a cycle timer like they did for reloads in Crius? That will visually show you the moment you de-cloak, since the timer starts running. May do. havent had it happen. But being uncloaked unintentionally is a big deal and quite often goes unnoticed by the pilot. So often in fact its common practice for gang mates to shout out on comms when they see a friendly uncloak without prior notice. On top of that i imagine its common to do PI while cloaked, and ur modules on the UI are not visible when ur in planet mode. All you have to do is point yourself away from anything that can decloak you and you won't be decloaked. Pick a safe spot, warp to 100, fly random direction. Judging by posts in this thread, you people need more instruction on how to fly a cloaked ship, not more coded shiney features. The only time I have ever been unwillingly decloaked has been at gate camps, which no amount of 'you've now been decloaked' messages would have helped.
gonna say this. you have an ov that gives range. Obviously if OV has an object within decloak range on you...well you went to far in your creeping lol.
If by chance ov not showing drones and cba to turn it on....well then assume drones in space anyway also good practice.
But that's me. I tbh used to be a sub sim junky and I turned off most guidance features. You mess up your ranges or make a bad judgement call (ie getting too close)...scratch one sub worst case. |
Adobe Raide
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.11 04:40:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:if anything, there should be a more noticeable UI change, other than the faint green glow on your cloak symbol fading. when your camera is zoomed out too far, you may not notice the cloak going away and the green circle is very easy to overlook, especially if you are colorblind.
Agreed, especially in Gallente space (where the background is green anyway... or whoever's space that is).
But to the OP: yah, would be good to both get a written indication of what de-cloaked you and a sound effect. +1 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
7751
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Posted - 2014.07.11 05:07:00 -
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It'd be nice, along the lines of a capacitor warning.
"The cloaking device has been deactivated".
But then I can't imagine that the voice actor for the UI is still on hire by the company.
And yes, I know there is a visual warning, but you can say the same thing about "the capacitor... is empty".
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1774
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Posted - 2014.07.11 08:17:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:
All you have to do is point yourself away from anything that can decloak you and you won't be decloaked. Pick a safe spot, warp to 100, fly random direction.
Judging by posts in this thread, you people need more instruction on how to fly a cloaked ship, not more coded shiney features. The only time I have ever been unwillingly decloaked has been at gate camps, which no amount of 'you've now been decloaked' messages would have helped.
ok bad example.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Rayzilla Zaraki
Tandokuno
237
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:02:00 -
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The cloak module flashes green when active. How hard is it to keep half an eye on that?
You can set up a tab that shows everything in the overview. Little green flashy thingy stops flashing green, click tab, see what did it.
No problem to fix. Just pay attention.
Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues. |
Vayn Baxtor
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
140
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:17:00 -
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I still think it is not asking for much to have an extra indicator like "Warning: Cloak disrupted", alike "Ship Stopping". I know that is asking for easy mode, but since you have no sounds or real indicators other than just "module stops working", I think there should be a sound or such. I don't think this would be game breaking either.
But yes. You must keep aware of your surroundings first and foremost.
Using tablet, typoes are common and I'm not going to fix them all. |
Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
115
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:02:00 -
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Vayn Baxtor wrote:I still think it is not asking for much to have an extra indicator like "Warning: Cloak disrupted", alike "Ship Stopping".
Just as I think it is not asking to much for you to pay attention?
Vayn Baxtor wrote:I know that is asking for easy mode, but since you have no sounds or real indicators other than just "module stops working", I think there should be a sound or such. I don't think this would be game breaking either.
NOS, points, webs. None of these have an indicator beyond the green light going out when your target gets out of range. You have to watch your range when using these on most ships, so why should you not have to watch your range when cloaked, specially when it's so easy to move to a point where you can't get decloaked.
Vayn Baxtor wrote:You must keep aware of your surroundings first and foremost.
This is the only thing you need to do to prevent getting decloaked.
Zan Shiro wrote:gonna say this. you have an ov that gives range. Obviously if OV has an object within decloak range on you...well you went to far in your creeping lol.
That you fail to use the tools already provided does not make a valid argument to add more tools.
Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:03:00 -
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Were you AFK cloaking someone's ice belt in Null Sec and lost your gank/cyno ship? 
But in all seriousness:
Lets say I am out and about for whatever reason and there are no stations to dock at. I could log off and log back in or I can cloak. Might be a bathroom call, might be a wife calling, might be a child falling off the roof, might be the boss walking into the room, waiting 30 seconds for a safe log off may not always be practical. A notification would be nice.... to let me know I am exposed... but, then, would it matter? If there is something more important going on, it won't.
Find a deep safe, warp there, cloak up in the meantime.
edit: forgot to add: also, in Crius, you can exempt yourself from fleet warping, so... that is addressed. |
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.15 09:23:00 -
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well this was mostly aimed at finding out which douchebag fleet members keeps warping to cloaked people.
When dual boxing people sometimes forget about the second screen, and bam dead because someone in your fleet "accidentally" warped to you and purposefully decloaked then warped away.
either a notification to say who decloaked you or in the fleet logs of who warped to who. |
Arctic Estidal
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
0
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:20:00 -
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Currently if you cloak and use a MJD you appear to be cloaked on your screen, but are visible to everyone else on grid.
This needs to be fixed and an indicator would be nice. |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc.
Illusion of Solitude
827
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:03:00 -
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A simple beep or recognisable tone when cloaking is deactivated would be quite sufficient.
As long as it is distinct and plays every time the cloak drops either deliberately or accidentally, it would require no training or explanation for people to pick up on it.
Some systems the actual indicator glow is really hard to see, particularly when things are "busy"
A notification is really quite justified when awareness of your state, determines survival.
Making the display of state so low key, is really non sensible.
And if people are at the keyboard and aware, they really should not have to die because their screen resolution does not make it a blinding green glow, but more a green fog that needs squinting at to tell.
But there are those who will say if you are not 20 with perfect eyesight, and the best equipment you should not play EVE.  
So +1 to warning tone or message.
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Mhari Dson
Lazy Brothers Inc
102
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:36:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:It'd be nice, along the lines of a capacitor warning.
"The cloaking device has been deactivated".
But then I can't imagine that the voice actor for the UI is still on hire by the company.
And yes, I know there is a visual warning, but you can say the same thing about "the capacitor... is empty".
I really could use this as well, and no the person that did the voice for Aura isn't on retainer and doesn't do voice acting anymore (there was a post about that last year iirc) |
Saisin
State War Academy
Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:17:00 -
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I think there should be a sound bite for cloaking as well as for de-cloaking, rather than a notification, much like the warp in or out new sounds.
It shouldn't't be a bang like the warp but I would totally go for a crescendo whoooop when de cloaking and the inverse when cloaking 
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