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Kaliesin
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:52:00 -
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I ICE mine in quite a busy system and I would like CCP to nerf all the mission runners there as they are causing lag to my ice mining.
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2006.06.30 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 30/06/2006 10:02:45
Interesting stuff, especially that some people still haven't noticed that only high-traffic high-security systems are affected.
So it doesn't change much for the ice miner. He can still mine in high-sec.
Ok, he needs a freighter, if he wants to sell in a trade hub. But he doesn't need to, because ice miners will concentrate in a few other systems after the change and clients come with their freighters to buy it there. We just get new hubs for ice products.
No nerf, just less miners in Jita.
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Kalaan Oratay
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Posted - 2006.06.30 10:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
I told you Galactic Warming was a threat to the economy! Now who's going to call me an environmentalist asteroid-hugger...
We didn't listen!
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Rangkai
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Posted - 2006.06.30 10:25:00 -
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I think people should not cry about things unless they see if it really has that bad of an effect on them or not.
And what's up with all these people saying it will hurt noob's?
When I was new to the game and I saw and ice field for the first time. I wanted to mine it so bad because it was shiney and i had no idea what it was for but i knew it must be better than veldspar. Then I realized it would take a long time before I had the skills.
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Candy Babe
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Posted - 2006.06.30 10:29:00 -
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Sa Sa make's me laugh, OVeur stated mission's WILL be changed and hints to the deadspace/dungeon style, so next patch or the one after big chamges to mission people will adapt styles and continue, ice moved out of high traffic systems starting with the likes of Jita i guess as that was mentioned but they never said which other one's will be next, with the threat that ore will go to coz it's not needed in high traffic systems and will move player's out.
The things not said are the problem if the words high traffic were replaced with Jita and *** then fine, Its what people dont say I find interesting they leave it open ended, they can do anything later and still claim "we never only said "
High traffic can be any system they deem so, true its their game we play and pay for the use of it, but from all the patches they have done they just chip away, the players never know what if anything is next, no one seem to know why the agents outside of the starter station were moved but their gone, if ice goes from "high traffic system's" which ones and where.
Before you know it you wont find it till it's in 0.4 as it's a high value product perhaps they will move it out of reach of casual player as an option just because of macro miner's they claim to be removing.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.30 10:47:00 -
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things will adapt now its a good storyline event tho
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Dinique
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Posted - 2006.06.30 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Sa Sa
Nearly Dinique, unfortunatley people still can't read for some reason 
People read the news and then post, without going through all the replies in the thread. Nothing strange about it.
Normally I would agree with you, but the OP states this. Which leads me to believe that just about no one actually read the OP.
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Caerleus
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: BlueSmok
Just had a thought... Any macro miners out there that don't read the forums or news, Loyaly activating the macro script and sending the drones out to field that no longer exsist... ROFLMAO!!
So speaketh the truth..
If ever there were a sure fire way to catch a whole load of macro miners, this is it..
I can just imagine a GM sitting at the belt in their Polaris Frig, watching retriever after retriever warp in and deploy its drones, or just loiter there, happily spamming the Ban Stick...
Any sane minded real player might still warp in, but then dock and start whinging in local at "WTF HAppened to the ICE", but those running scripts..sorry chap..your nicked...
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Q'ui
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:18:00 -
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the caching thing could almost be described as... working as intended 
It is a nice way to catch macrominers 
Oh and hats off to whoever wrote that article. I especially loved the "noone responded to our comments" *****, lmao!
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:36:00 -
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This thread gets 3 thumbs up (dont ask...)
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losmandy
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:46:00 -
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mmmm looks like i'll have to cancel ice mining lvl 5
 
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:55:00 -
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Remove ICE? Damn, I tought you said IGE 
I love that Bhaal & Co. have balls to say something against CCP people. There is many good sides and many bad sides in EVE and CCP. If you cannot tolerate critism, perhaps your playing in wrong field?
Last FanFest I complained to Hilmar how gategankers spoils game and he even agreed me *lol*. CCP can still take some critism and not-so-positive wording. Good.
Bad Oveur, BAD! Take your punishment! *takes whip out*  (Don't hurt me on next FanFest  )
Unnerf Amarr!
"Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
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Greavus
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Greavus on 30/06/2006 11:56:24
Originally by: Tachy
Originally by: Dinique
ICE BELTS ARE NOT BEING REMOVED FROM HIGH SEC EMPIRE
ICE BELTS ARE NOT BEING REMOVED FROM HIGH SEC EMPIRE
ICE BELTS ARE NOT BEING REMOVED FROM HIGH SEC EMPIRE
Only high traffic systems like Jita are affected by this. Read Kieron and Oveur's posts this time before having a knee-jerk reaction.
I haven't seen a list of affected ice fields. Did you? Where?
Originally by: kieron
This is not being looked at as the end-all to dealing with macro-miners and players who abuse the resources in high-sec areas, there are other measures being looked into. Also, not all the high-sec resources are going away.
The point is, it doesn't make sense for someone to be mining 23/7 in Jita, when there are 4,999 other systems, most of which are not on high-traffic nodes, to mine and gather resources from.
Although I wrote the news item with a decided anti-macrominer tone, load balancing also had an effect on the depletion decision.
Affected systems are high sec highly populated areas
let me repeat again, as a quote from Oveur....
Also, not all the high-sec resources are going away.
Everyone panicking about low sec ice mining being the only viable recourse, you will still have secure ice fields.
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Thelmarr
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:00:00 -
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What I would like to know is...
Will the removed ice be moved to another (this far iceless) system in Empire or will it be nerfed out of Empire?
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:02:00 -
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Quote:
... resources ...
Ore? Ice? Isk? Production facilities? NPC to shoot at? Agent missions? Complexes?
We heard a couple of similarly unclear statements in the past. The devblog and Posts leave everything open.
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Greavus
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Greavus on 30/06/2006 12:19:25
Originally by: Tachy
Quote:
... resources ...
Ore? Ice? Isk? Production facilities? NPC to shoot at? Agent missions? Complexes?
We heard a couple of similarly unclear statements in the past. The devblog and Posts leave everything open.
This is a thread about ice fields being removed, personally, i understand "resources" to be ice fields.
Sounds pretty clear to me, i guess we shall see
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:18:00 -
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I don't know how many of you suffer from REM paralysis like I do, but it happened to me about 10 times last night while trying to get a good nights sleep (very uncomfortable panicking feeling). I'm going to go ahead and blame this thread...
I can't remember any of the dreams, but I bet some of them were about EVE & Oveur...
I got up and played EVE from 1 am to 3 am...
CCP, you're killing me...
Lesson to all, don't go to bed frustrated with EVE...
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:21:00 -
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If you see pink wigs in your sleep ... take a month off of EVE.
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Dinique
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Greavus
Edited by: Greavus on 30/06/2006 12:19:25
Originally by: Tachy
Quote:
... resources ...
Ore? Ice? Isk? Production facilities? NPC to shoot at? Agent missions? Complexes?
We heard a couple of similarly unclear statements in the past. The devblog and Posts leave everything open.
This is a thread about ice fields being removed, personally, i understand "resources" to be ice fields.
Sounds pretty clear to me, i guess we shall see
I agree, thats how I read it too. Context.
The OP states that only high traffic high security system's Ice will be removed. Now since reading comprehension is a skill very few forumers have even HEARD of, Oveur reworded it.
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Belmarduk
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mysticaa
Edited by: Mysticaa on 29/06/2006 23:47:07
Originally by: kieron
There are other fields that will suffer the same fate in the near future.
It will not be long before all high-sec ice fields are like the rest of high-sec roid fields... barren! This change will only hurt the honest players and do nothing to change the number of macrominers.
I am a fairly new player and make my meager money with ice-mining. This is really a blow.... I am NOT taking my barge into low sec systems.
This may be mildly annoying for scriptminers but it really hurts young players who try to make a bit of isk through ice-mining :(
Hmm all the time and energy to get a good icemining barge for nothing? If it really is I am not sure about continuing with Eve.. :(
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Greavus
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Belmarduk
Originally by: Mysticaa
Edited by: Mysticaa on 29/06/2006 23:47:07
Originally by: kieron
There are other fields that will suffer the same fate in the near future.
It will not be long before all high-sec ice fields are like the rest of high-sec roid fields... barren! This change will only hurt the honest players and do nothing to change the number of macrominers.
I am a fairly new player and make my meager money with ice-mining. This is really a blow.... I am NOT taking my barge into low sec systems.
This may be mildly annoying for scriptminers but it really hurts young players who try to make a bit of isk through ice-mining :(
Hmm all the time and energy to get a good icemining barge for nothing? If it really is I am not sure about continuing with Eve.. :(
It has been stated, too many times for me to recall
NOT ALL ICE MINING FIELDS WILL BE REMOVED FROM HIGH SEC!!! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? STOP PANICKING AND MOVE YOUR BARGE A FEW JUMPS AWAY
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Joss Sparq
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:55:00 -
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Last I saw today, the Jita field was still there, in 0.9 space. Yet, the field in Sobaseki, 0.8 space, was gone. Just to correct who-ever said it was only 1.0 and 0.9 space ...
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Greavus
Originally by: Belmarduk
Originally by: Mysticaa
Edited by: Mysticaa on 29/06/2006 23:47:07
Originally by: kieron
There are other fields that will suffer the same fate in the near future.
It will not be long before all high-sec ice fields are like the rest of high-sec roid fields... barren! This change will only hurt the honest players and do nothing to change the number of macrominers.
I am a fairly new player and make my meager money with ice-mining. This is really a blow.... I am NOT taking my barge into low sec systems.
This may be mildly annoying for scriptminers but it really hurts young players who try to make a bit of isk through ice-mining :(
Hmm all the time and energy to get a good icemining barge for nothing? If it really is I am not sure about continuing with Eve.. :(
It has been stated, too many times for me to recall
NOT ALL ICE MINING FIELDS WILL BE REMOVED FROM HIGH SEC!!! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? STOP PANICKING AND MOVE YOUR BARGE A FEW JUMPS AWAY
I think what most players are worried about is that CCP will continue this trend as they see fit until all ICE is gone in 1.0-0.5...
If they do this once, they can simply keep doing it if they feel the need to. So a lot of barge owners, or ppl training up for barge & ICE mining are getting spooked...
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:14:00 -
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I for one am very happy and hope they take it a step further and reduce ice to 0.4 and below. It may solve several problems of pvp in low sec and alliances not touching or protecting vast ice fields in 0.0 while buying ice in bulk from over saturated markets with NPCing money.
It might make alliances think twice about moving 20 dreads to take down a medium POS in space they don't really own but claim 'just because' 20 jumps from their actual sov space.
Take some of the uber tools out of the alliance hands and restore the markets supply and demand.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:18:00 -
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Excellent!
Absolutely excellent!
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/06/2006 13:22:10
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/06/2006 13:19:38
Why is it a bad idea to remove all ice in safe space? If anything, low sec mining should be made alot more rewarding so teamwork mining there is really worth it.
For the ones with mining barges, you would take it into low sec if there was some really big money to be made there. If you could replace it in a hour of mining for example. Maybe you already can, im not a miner.
But expecting to be able to sit in empire, while afk, and letting the iskies flow, is lame. You have normal ore there for that sort of thing.
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Candy Babe
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:20:00 -
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Bhaal dont ever quit being a pain, if people like you didn't ask we would just never know. Just clicked your link looks like a nice "other hobby" whats going in when you finish it? just for looks or fish. Nice mods you made there too.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/06/2006 13:22:10
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/06/2006 13:19:38
Why is it a bad idea to remove all ice in safe space? If anything, low sec mining should be made alot more rewarding so teamwork mining there is really worth it.
For the ones with mining barges, you would take it into low sec if there was some really big money to be made there. If you could replace it in a hour of mining for example. Maybe you already can, im not a miner.
But expecting to be able to sit in empire, while afk, and letting the iskies flow, is lame. You have normal ore there for that sort of thing.
Go and mine some ice. It takes up to 10 minutues for a single cycle.
There are no partial pulls as in ore mining when you have to leave suddenly.
Ice mining in HiSec is roughly as good as Scordite or Kernite, just more relaxed. This leads to the 'I tried to contact the miner and got no answer ...'. Would you stare at the screen when you're needed every 15-20 minutes for moving your ice to the can and hauler?
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Babe
Bhaal dont ever quit being a pain, if people like you didn't ask we would just never know. Just clicked your link looks like a nice "other hobby" whats going in when you finish it? just for looks or fish. Nice mods you made there too.
I mailed you in-game, don't want to muck up this thread anymore...
Thx for the interest.
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Monica Foulkes
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
Spyware on my comp? Thanks, but no.
Btw, you'd hate it if just another clientpart eats into your available resources, causing more and more clientproblems and lag.
Well nothing different than using punkbuster in BF2 and other fps games online. All it has to do is verify that all your dll's and other important files are unedited.
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