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Jurushy	Posted - 2006.06.29 19:22:00 - [1] We try hard to get support from GM to get them to XZH-4X but obvisuly they dont care what about 350+ in local and we supose to get a really LAGGY day so can we get som support from GM plz this is the 3rd day in line we want someone but nothing happen
Wrayth Osu	Posted - 2006.06.29 19:27:00 - [2] Edited by: Wrayth Osu on 29/06/2006 19:27:41 What do you expect them to do? Kick everyone out of the system? P.S. IB23 _____________________________ Nukem from orbit... It's the only way to be sure.
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.06.29 19:28:00 - [3] No dolt, i expect he's after some load balancing love. .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one Real men use blasters
Jurushy	Posted - 2006.06.29 19:31:00 - [4] i want to show them the "LAGFREE" game it not funny fighting whit capitals which cannot be controlled
Jurushy	Posted - 2006.06.29 20:50:00 - [5] i have no controll of my ship atm for 5 minutes after the goons start to akt the lag increase till we cant play anymore AND NO ******* GM AROUND

Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.06.29 21:16:00 - [6] Originally by: Jurushy i have no controll of my ship atm for 5 minutes after the goons start to akt the lag increase till we cant play anymore AND NO ******* GM AROUND hmmm, i was in the system at your time of post and i was also looking at the logs of the node to see if i could see any errors.

CrayC	Posted - 2006.06.29 21:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Sharkbait Originally by: Jurushy i have no controll of my ship atm for 5 minutes after the goons start to akt the lag increase till we cant play anymore AND NO ******* GM AROUND hmmm, i was in the system at your time of post and i was also looking at the logs of the node to see if i could see any errors. And they showed......?
Jurushy	Posted - 2006.06.29 21:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Sharkbait Originally by: Jurushy i have no controll of my ship atm for 5 minutes after the goons start to akt the lag increase till we cant play anymore AND NO ******* GM AROUND hmmm, i was in the system at your time of post and i was also looking at the logs of the node to see if i could see any errors. so? do u feel the lag?
Kylania	Posted - 2006.06.29 21:29:00 - [9] Are you talking about SERVER lag or CLIENT lag? Are you going into a fleet battle without all effects turned off, overview stripped to only hostiles/neutrals, maybe even sound turned off, graphics settings lowered, did you relog before entering battle after having been online for hours? If you're not, try those first. Also, did you ever petiton at any point in these three days? That's your first step. Not spamming General Discussion. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| Visual Building Guide (Both work in game too!)
Jurushy	Posted - 2006.06.29 21:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Kylania Are you talking about SERVER lag or CLIENT lag? Are you going into a fleet battle without all effects turned off, overview stripped to only hostiles/neutrals, maybe even sound turned off, graphics settings lowered, did you relog before entering battle after having been online for hours? If you're not, try those first. Also, did you ever petiton at any point in these three days? That's your first step. Not spamming General Discussion. i talk about serverlag and yes we petitioned this (i never write so mach petitions in a such schort time )

Dhin Xar	Posted - 2006.06.29 22:02:00 - [11] Well, it is now obvious which of the big alliances does not have any devs around. Gotta wonder how some others manage to get their target systems reinforced before the attack even begins, though....
IVeige	Posted - 2006.06.29 22:11:00 - [12] lag doesnt exist in eve, but error do so if they dont find any error in database, even if you lag or everyone lag, for ccp, there is no problem and no lag.
Blitter	Posted - 2006.06.29 23:13:00 - [13] AFAIK (Dont hold me to this) Server balance can only be done in a reboot?? and alliances have to request it with good reason..
Xrak	Posted - 2006.06.29 23:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Blitter AFAIK (Dont hold me to this) Server balance can only be done in a reboot?? and alliances have to request it with good reason.. I think they introduced dynamic load balancing in one the big hardware update, but I might be wrong.
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.06.29 23:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Blitter AFAIK (Dont hold me to this) Server balance can only be done in a reboot?? and alliances have to request it with good reason.. EC got it, 9CG got it, Cloud Ring certainly should... --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Spaja Saist	Posted - 2006.06.30 00:41:00 - [16] So much for all this talk about how the hardware and database upgrades where going to help. Eve is just as laggy as it was before the upgrades.
Xelios	Posted - 2006.06.30 00:50:00 - [17] Originally by: Spaja Saist So much for all this talk about how the hardware and database upgrades where going to help. Eve is just as laggy as it was before the upgrades. No, it's not. Thing is months ago 200 people in a system in 0.0 was the absolute max, producing the same lag you're getting now with almost 400 people. It's the age old problem, the more you reduce the lag the more people will push the new boundries and then continue to complain about the lag. _________________________________
McDeth187	Posted - 2006.06.30 09:58:00 - [18] Edited by: McDeth187 on 30/06/2006 09:58:33 Just to let you know, GM's have been in contact with me since our invasion of Cloud Ring started. They have since "tweaked" the node, and lag seemed alot less lately, since our battle with 400 in local was about as laggy as one with 250. Please note that instead of whining in the forums I chose the proper path to get our lag issues resolved. In the future, whining about lag on the forums really doesn't help anybody involved. Quote: null
Jargoon	Posted - 2006.06.30 10:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Kylania Also, did you ever petiton at any point in these three days? That's your first step. Not spamming General Discussion. I guess he got tired of spamming Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions...
Deakin Frost	Posted - 2006.06.30 12:41:00 - [20] Crybabies...

Gone'Postal	Posted - 2006.06.30 12:52:00 - [21] Originally by: Sharkbait Originally by: Jurushy i have no controll of my ship atm for 5 minutes after the goons start to akt the lag increase till we cant play anymore AND NO ******* GM AROUND hmmm, i was in the system at your time of post and i was also looking at the logs of the node to see if i could see any errors. Capital ship fight, lots of guys in local, Dev in local = What side was the dev fighting for then eh ?..
Ismern	Posted - 2006.06.30 13:01:00 - [22] Listen guys, lag is always going to be a problem when playing games like this. It isn't either side's fault. The technology that manages all of the data transfer is limited and thus we're going to experience lag. I would like to address some of the complaints stated over the past few days. GoonSwarm is consistently accused of deploying cans and drones to promote lag in the server to "use to our advantage." I was not able to attend the battle two days ago, but I have seen many a screenshot (from D2 on the EVE-O forums and from our own guys) and the only cans I noticed (and there weren't many) were from deceased players. Drones are another issue. Drones are always going to cause lag and there's nothing we can really do about that. CCP tried to alleviate the problem months ago by patching drones such that DPS was the same but there were fewer drones deployed in an engagement. D2 et. al. complained that "GoonSwarm pilots released their drones before our arrival to cause more lag for us warping in." I ask how many of you are drone users? If you have ever used drones, you know how much of pain it is to deploy and give orders to drones during lag. By releasing drones ahead of time, you can automatically have them engage in a battle (either by you firing or being fired upon). However, if they aren't deployed until afterwards, then that changes, and it takes longer to get them on your target. Neither side can complain about the deployment of drones. For pilots such as I, who have invested a considerable amount of SP into drone skills, drones will often times augment my damage by 80-100%, and thus you can sure that I will utilize that in every engagement I can. Now nobody likes lag. I was at the D2/RAZR/YouWhat/NORAD/ENIGMA siege of one of GoonSwarm's POS in XZH yesterday. We warped into battle and were waiting for the command to engage. Upon warping to our targets, lag became unbearable. It took so long for me to scroll through my overview and find the target that I never actually managed to get a shot off during the entire battle (and I didn't lose my ship). How is this advantageous to us? It doesn't help anyone to have their computers lag out during the battle. Trust me, I wish we could all play in a lag free environment. These battles offer some of the most fun any player could have in EVE, and I feel like I'm missing out because I cannot truly take part in it. There is another issue I would like to address, and that is D2 et al complaining about how GoonSwarm "only engages us and attacks us after we go to sleep." I think that most of D2 et al forget that they are mainly European players, and as such have different primetimes than us. Yes, it is true that the majority of GoonSwarm's forces log on after around 23:00 EVE time, well after our enemies have since gone to bed. However, this is due to the fact that the majority of our players are American, and do not arrive home from work until around that time. However, it works both ways. The majority of our enemies assault begin around 15:00 EVE time, while most of our players are still at work (or at school) and thus cannot log on to help. Believe me when I say that I wish we could all engage each other at the same time (minus the lag). It would offer some awesome battles, but you cannot use it as an excuse (neither can we) for the outcomes. It is a fact of this game that players are international, and thus that simple fact will dictate how and when battles will happen.
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.06.30 13:07:00 - [23] Originally by: Spaja Saist So much for all this talk about how the hardware and database upgrades where going to help. Eve is just as laggy as it was before the upgrades. I don't think so... I been running agent missions on a new toon and with 350 people in Ours. I don't feel any lag. Before the patch... couldn't undock properly without a CTD or a stuck toon. but thanks for posting rubbish... have a nice day. Team Minmatar
Jon Hawkes	Posted - 2006.06.30 13:11:00 - [24] I could be wrong, but wasn't there a post by a Dev a while ago stating that load balancing on the servers is calculated by using the previous day's data? That would mean that system which are constantly busy always get a lot more system resources, whereas a normally quiet node that suddenly gets a large fleet battle... well, we all know what happens there...
Dinique	Posted - 2006.06.30 13:22:00 - [25] Originally by: Sharkbait hmmm, i was in the system at your time of post and i was also looking at the logs of the node to see if i could see any errors. Well I can tell you what I know. We have screenshots of the in-game log window showing that modules could not be activated for a period exceeding 10 minutes. This was experienced by multiple players, and our internet connections are not at fault here, Teamspeak worked perfectly and I my router's stats showed that my connection wasnt congested. This wasnt client lag either, FPS was 40+. Our fighting in this system is one nasty nasty lag fest, and we really need all the help we can get from you guys to keep this experience from turning into a pure frustration. We all accept that lag is something we have to live with, but to this degree its just a little too much. We've had major engagements in other systems that were nowhere near this bad. _____ There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
Dinique	Posted - 2006.06.30 13:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Ismern Stuff about d2 and goonies she said he said laadeedaah Look, this is not the thread for this. So please take this issue elsewhere. This is a thread for getting CCP 's help to reduce the lag for both d2 and the goonies. So unless you have something contructive to add to THIS topic, please don't post here. Take this to alliance discussions where it belongs on the other boards of these forums. _____ There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
Tow Truck	Posted - 2006.06.30 13:30:00 - [27] Edited by: Tow Truck on 30/06/2006 13:31:02 Originally by: Dinique Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! ;_;
Dinique	Posted - 2006.06.30 13:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Tow Truck Edited by: Tow Truck on 30/06/2006 13:31:02 Originally by: Dinique Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! ;_; Definitely not enough 'a' characters. _____ There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
Eloryan Persago	Posted - 2006.06.30 13:49:00 - [29] Edited by: Eloryan Persago on 30/06/2006 13:49:09 Been trying to post a reply for ages but my reply module will not activate Edit:
Tarnish Katharr	Posted - 2006.06.30 14:00:00 - [30] Whine a little more Jurushy. Using lag as an excuse for your horrid fleet leadership is a poor way to go about it. I'll be sure to keep deploying my Ogres in every fight. Thank you for the classy post Dinique, I agree completely.



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