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Verone
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:30:00 -
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This evening Veto suffered it's first major member casualty due to failure to adhere to corporate policy.
During an engagement under sentry guns in Cumemare, two of our devoted members lost a Megathron, and Iskhur to combined fire from sentry guns and a Blasterthron due to a corpmate leaving them to die, whilst flying their gang support ship.
Pilot Leilani Solaris, piloting a dominix refused to continue the engagement after warping in to see an ingame friend under attack by Veto vessels, warping out and leaving both members to die.
The non Veto pilot initially caused the agression against one of the Veto gang members, holds no standings towards our corporation and has niether applied for, paid for, nor requested positive standings to our corp. He is considered neutral and there for, KOS.
On joining Veto, every member of our family swears loyalty to the corp, to their new ingame family and to the few basic rules we uphold. Tonight these rules were betrayed, and two brothers were left to die on the battlefield.
After initial investigation, the choice was made unanimously after a good track record to let Leilani remain in the corp providing there was full assurance that this was a one off occurance and that our two members would be fully reimbursed for the damage caused by disregarding corp policy.
The policy has also been extended to clarify exactly how the corp stands with regards to personal standings, irrespective of the fact that it was already clear to corp members in the old draft.
Before the news was broken to Leilani however, it was decided that the full penalty for breach of our rules would be enforced, after the ammendments to the corp policy were personally slammed by him on our corporate forum, and he openly admitted he would continue to jeapordise the vessels of corp members by not conforming to our corp standings.
The Veto family has spoken, and decided that ejection from the corp is the only means of resolving the situation.
Sadly, after 24 hours we will part ways.
Veto will not tolerate insubordination in our ranks.
VETO RECRUITMENT |
Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:32:00 -
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You are posting because you kicked someone?
Oh-kay then.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Blacklight
You are posting because you kicked someone?
Oh-kay then.
I have to agree with Blacklight here, Verone.
But not a bad move on your part, just was it worthy to post?
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Angel Deep Corporation
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sister 9 on 30/06/2006 00:37:44
is this really eve-o forum worthy stuff? probably not. |
Verone
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Blacklight
You are posting because you kicked someone?
Oh-kay then.
I have to agree with Blacklight here, Verone.
But not a bad move on your part, just was it worthy to post?
In the past, people we've removed have attempted to kick up a week of yellow ****storms for our corp, and our name.
This covers our back.
VETO RECRUITMENT |
Finkly
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:39:00 -
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\o/ Not a BoB thread :)
I think he's trying to warm future Corps not to trust this guy as his loyalties clearly arnt with his corp. |
introuder
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:40:00 -
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nice post verone
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Finkly
\o/ Not a BoB thread :)
I think he's trying to warm future Corps not to trust this guy as his loyalties clearly arnt with his corp.
yeh true,
though, Veto, well known corp, like their nice forum posts. but sometimes people need to understand less is more. forum spamming, really makes them look a bit cheap.
though i hope a small blemish in Veto's forum posting record ;) |
Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 30/06/2006 00:44:37
And this is worthy of a forum post why exactly?
Edit: typo.
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 30/06/2006 00:44:37
And this is worthy of a forum post why exactly?
Edit: typo.
Hes making you an example. Heh
Goodluck finding a new corp.
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Angel Deep Corporation
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Spike 68
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:45:00 -
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friends over corp anytime, I would have done the same thing, retarded post btw
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 30/06/2006 00:44:37
And this is worthy of a forum post why exactly?
Edit: typo.
Hes making you an example. Heh
Goodluck finding a new corp.
Already found one 
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Finkly
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Finkly on 30/06/2006 00:47:50
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 30/06/2006 00:44:37
And this is worthy of a forum post why exactly?
Edit: typo.
Hes making you an example. Heh
Goodluck finding a new corp.
Already found one
In that case i guess he should be wishing them good luck instead. |
Sacul
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:49:00 -
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Come join me Leilani, i'll teach u how to blow up a raven, Rick will just make u mine
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:52:00 -
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Geez, who cares 
Whine whine whine, sigs |
IamBen
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:54:00 -
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Well thats a cool policy. But I dont know if the whole world needed to know it. Maybe this would be better in crime and punishment or in an RP section? Yarr Veto are scary pirates?
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Vosi
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:56:00 -
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I hope i dont scare you ben o/
Just a quick wave :)
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Dumus
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:00:00 -
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When I joined VETO I wrote and told ALL my friends in game and told them what I was going to do, and that they would be shot at and in fact actively hunted if I was in their patch They all said 'fine but not if we find you first'
This is sad to lose such a good guy but I agree with the decision. We stand together as a family before a corp. I know I for one would throw my last ISK into the fight to defend a corp mate whatever the situation. I know this is the case for the rest of us. We cannot have someone stand beside us and wonder if they will fight.
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IamBen
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:02:00 -
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Vosi hey mate :)
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:03:00 -
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For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
Whine whine whine, sigs |
Gareitonis
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
For what it's worth, only the megathron was shot at by the sentries. I'm sorry to see that my actions caused a good friend to lose a place in a well respected corp.
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Dumus
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
You are not fully aware of the exact circumstances of the fight. Please be civil.
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Gareitonis
Originally by: KilROCK
For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
For what it's worth, only the megathron was shot at by the sentries. I'm sorry to see that my actions caused a good friend to lose a place in a well respected corp.
I still love you <3 ♥ 
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dumus
Originally by: KilROCK
For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
You are not fully aware of the exact circumstances of the fight. Please be civil.
The 'decent' megathron pilot was a friend. The crappy megathron engaged, The Dominix pilot didn't want to take part of it since it was a friend. Lack of communication in the first place between both the Attacking megathron and the gang members.
Now.. Shesh, I'm never civil.
Whine whine whine, sigs |
Turiya Flesharrower
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:16:00 -
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I like Veto, but this just seems like a cry for publicity during a relative dry spell in dramatic events. On the other hand, things are kinda boring around here anyway so whatever.
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Tobias Sjodin
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 30/06/2006 01:18:38
I don't really care whether it would've been three dead people if the Dominix would've stayed. It might not have been, and that's enough reason to stay and fight.
The way I see it, you die together, or fly away together.
I don't know how many ships I've lost under overwhelming odds, fighting together with my friends, but I do it any day.
You don't abandon your own, that's betrayal, pure and simple.
Perhaps this could've been handled internally though.
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J4m Z
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:18:00 -
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I've thrown battleships at a lost cause once or twice to try and save a corp mate in a pickle, I expect them to do them same for me, in my case. I would have kitted out a new ship and killed Leilani myself for betraying my trust.
The people here saying Lei did right. can just go ahead and **** off.
This is My opinion and mine alone. Don't blame Veto. for my anger.
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: J4m Z
I've thrown battleships at a lost cause once or twice to try and save a corp mate in a pickle, I expect them to do them same for me, in my case. I would have kitted out a new ship and killed Leilani myself for betraying my trust.
The people here saying Lei did right. can just go ahead and **** off.
This is My opinion and mine alone. Don't blame Veto. for my anger.
You lost a ishkur.
Big deal.
Im still trying to figure out where the line of communication broke during this conflict.
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Angel Deep Corporation
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Yblarbo Janks
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:33:00 -
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I wrote a nice reply.
And the system ate it. So let me try again.
I invite everyone to step outside the mindset for a minute and look at it this way.
A leader is someone who can get a group of people, manage them in a way that everyone builds and capitalizes on the strengths, and reinforces the weaknesess of the group. To do this, the leader must make some rules and policies to define how everyone does exactly that.
The Good leader is someone who not only knows how to do this, but is able to get everyone to actually follow the rules and policies despite the personal conflicts that WILL happen when you get any two people together (much less more).
A great leader though, is one that will make the tough decisions to keep everything running. If they don't, then things will simply cease to function as well as they could and ultimately it's going to be over.
And I do not write this as someone who runs a virtual group, I'm speaking of someone who manages a real life business. And it applies perfectly to the virtual corporations.
Anybody can train the skill to start a corporation in Eve.
But the leaders' policies and rules is what MAKES the corporation.
And how the corporation's polices and rules are enforced is what makes the corporations image and reputation.
This is something for everyone to think about when looking to start a corporation or even join one. If you notice, everything above I stated doesn't even have to deal with VETO, its has to deal with the entire subject of this very forum. Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions
Now to get back to the mindset of Veto, when I see what's happening here, I have admiration for both point of views of both sides. Friends and Corporation. Not Friends vs Corporation, because everyone can debate which is better till the cows come home. Both are very admirable things to honor. There are people in this game and in real life that honor NEITHER, and those are the people that honestly everyone should avoid on every level of group-activity.
That's all I have to say on it.
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laotse
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:34:00 -
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black get alive m8 you have way to much time 
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Tobias Sjodin
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
You lost a ishkur.
Big deal.
Im still trying to figure out where the line of communication broke during this conflict.
I don't think he cares about the Ishkur, it's under which circumstances he lost it that matters, really.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:45:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 30/06/2006 01:47:43
I don't get why people are biitching about this not being threadworthy, it beats 90% of the rubbish on the boards.
Veto is cool. 
Really nice to see there are still some classy pirates around, EVE needs more of Verone's type.
On a completely unrelated topic, guess what pirate corp would get my application if i were to quit being an anti-pirate? 
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: J4m Z
I've thrown battleships at a lost cause once or twice to try and save a corp mate in a pickle, I expect them to do them same for me, in my case. I would have kitted out a new ship and killed Leilani myself for betraying my trust.
The people here saying Lei did right. can just go ahead and **** off.
This is My opinion and mine alone. Don't blame Veto. for my anger.
You lost a ishkur.
Big deal.
Im still trying to figure out where the line of communication broke during this conflict.
At the point where Leilani failed to activate his highslots.
For those trolling, especially KilROCK, thank you ♥. Making a post on the Eve-O forums is always an amusing, and fun thing to do.
If you would like some clarification as to why this is here, then read on.
We're open about what goes on in our corp, and have nothing to hide (apart from Drac's cross dressing but that misses the point).
Anyone can contact me for any information regarding Veto they feel the urge to know.
We honor any agreements made, we are a close knit corp and when someone betrays our trust inside our own ranks it hits hard.
We come here to post to cover our own backs, to prevent the childish rumors that spread when people take a corporation's name in vain because they have a grudge against a person in there after being removed.
Business is good, VERY good with our honesty, if you don't like what we have to say, don't watch us.
As for Leilani, up until what happened he had a good record with the corp.
Veto still has roughly 600m worth of his assets in our possession and are currently in the process of making sure they're safely returned to him.
We will protect our own and bring people out who breach our corp policies.
This is how we do business and it's worked as a principle for me for almost two years.
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Body Count
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:51:00 -
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A lot of peeps are giving Verone and Veto crap fro posting this saying it's not forum worthy. Verone obviously thinks it is. If you don't agree, ignore it and don't post and let the thread die.
This forum is for ALL corps and alliances to use. Because of that you're not always going to agree with what people post, but them's the breaks. I get enough censorship with President Nimrod running my country into oblivion. No need for it here too.
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:52:00 -
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I have no hard feelings towards Veto, i understand that Verone is just doing his job making sure corp policies are upheld. I'm sure Veto won't have any hard feelings towards me. All assets that were in corp posession for whatever reason are being returned to me safely which i'm glad about.
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J4m Z
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: J4m Z
I've thrown battleships at a lost cause once or twice to try and save a corp mate in a pickle, I expect them to do them same for me, in my case. I would have kitted out a new ship and killed Leilani myself for betraying my trust.
The people here saying Lei did right. can just go ahead and **** off.
This is My opinion and mine alone. Don't blame Veto. for my anger.
You lost a ishkur.
Big deal.
Im still trying to figure out where the line of communication broke during this conflict.
OK, Trepkos, you don't have any facts on this matter it seems.. first of all, I was at a lounge playing pool while this went down, second, I've never flown an ishkur in my life. Third, I'm angry over lei breaching his corpmates trust over something so thin as a two month ingame friendship for an ex corpmate.
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Tecam Hund
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Blacklight
You are posting because you kicked someone?
Oh-kay then.
I have to agree with Blacklight here, Verone.
But not a bad move on your part, just was it worthy to post?
In the past, people we've removed have attempted to kick up a week of yellow ****storms for our corp, and our name.
This covers our back.
You are a good CEO and an honorable person Verone. Though, to be honest, this post made me scratch my head couple times and left me puzzled.
You removed a pilot from your corp for violation of corp rules and open insubordination; fair enough. On the other hand that person has a valid reason not to follow the corporate standings (I can see why it can be a problem to leave all friends behind upon joining Veto).
There is always a chance that someone you kick will spread lies about Veto, but you have your word and word of Veto (both of great value) against the person that was kicked from the corp. Anybody trully interested can always find out the truth.
So in my opinion it was inapropriate to drag your former corpmate through this for a reason rather questionable. This post should of stayed in the public area of Veto forums.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris
I have no hard feelings towards Veto, i understand that Verone is just doing his job making sure corp policies are upheld. I'm sure Veto won't have any hard feelings towards me. All assets that were in corp posession for whatever reason are being returned to me safely which i'm glad about.
No harsh feelings at all, your assets are your business, not ours.
VETO RECRUITMENT |
Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:06:00 -
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Nice post Verone,
Standings rule all in this game. I know freinds who have been on the opposing ends of conflicts and have shot each other. It's a game afterall.
Do you avoid beating your buddy at chess because hes your buddy???
If you know an RL friend is online then warn him away from where you are pirating. It's smart and proactive
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Sacul
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:22:00 -
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I Demand to be hughed by Leilani.....Dang!!
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:03:00 -
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I don't think you have to apologize to the forum goons about your post. It belongs here and it's worthy because it's news to the community. I really wish the forum mods would take better care of the threads and remove people who troll/flame topics because they seem to think a forum section revolves around them and or there alliances.
Like the Amarrian Scum said above me *points to Tyrrax Thorrk*. It's better than reading most of the rubbish on the boards now. It's something I want to hear about as well. Keeping other pirating corps in check intel wise.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2006.06.30 04:03:00 -
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Edited by: Atandros on 30/06/2006 04:03:14
Originally by: J4m Z
I've thrown battleships at a lost cause once or twice to try and save a corp mate in a pickle, I expect them to do them same for me, in my case. I would have kitted out a new ship and killed Leilani myself for betraying my trust.
The people here saying Lei did right. can just go ahead and **** off.
This is My opinion and mine alone. Don't blame Veto. for my anger.
Word.
Originally by: Blacklight
You are posting because you kicked someone?
Oh-kay then.
Look at it as a PR thing. Doesn't do them any harm at all, does it?
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 30/06/2006 01:47:43I don't get why people are biitching about this not being threadworthy, it beats 90% of the rubbish on the boards.
Also quite true. We certainly have more than enough threads chock-full of nothing but stupid, ADD-afflicted and semi-literate teenagers braying at each other on this wonderful board.
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Svett
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Posted - 2006.06.30 04:17:00 -
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Verone is the man, but does this really need a thread in this forum?
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Shalimar Fox
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Posted - 2006.06.30 04:24:00 -
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Leilani a 2 page post just on u :)
Man can I get a signature :P
Well back to the point u did well
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.06.30 04:25:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 30/06/2006 04:25:22
Pfft.
You wouldn't fire on friends? Dear god, the best fights I've had on online games tend to be against friends. Why would you join a corp if you're not going to follow the rules? Did you need Veto on your membership list as some sort of gold star?
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Thut'ankh Amon
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:11:00 -
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Hello,
i just wanted to say that im the megathron pilot that engaged under sentry fire due to my other corpmate being attacked there... at the point when i was already flagged and in engagement with said person, Leilani said he will not help and warped away, even with gate guns against me the fight was close as upon my popping opponent was about to take structure damage. (Gareitonis may correct me on this one)
When i go into fight i have to be sure that my gang mate will back me up, as the corp is ones family and family is most imporant.
There can be only one Amon
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Gericault m0id
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:41:00 -
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It's good to know that you'll stay and fight whatever the odds are as long as we have at least one of your corp mates scrambled
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hUssmann
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:51:00 -
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/me sheads an emo tear.
Sorry you had to leave us this way, good luck in your new corp. 
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Kujin
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Kujin on 30/06/2006 09:42:53
Originally by: Spike 68
friends over corp anytime, I would have done the same thing,
second that...takes ballz to stay firm to his principles...
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.06.30 10:33:00 -
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why does this have to be posted on eve-o ?
Anyways gl leilani :) u know we all lub ya :D
And even if leilani did engage, gare would of pwned u all, cause he is wtfhax ;)
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Thut'ankh Amon
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Posted - 2006.06.30 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kujin
Edited by: Kujin on 30/06/2006 09:42:53
Originally by: Spike 68
friends over corp anytime, I would have done the same thing,
second that...takes ballz to stay firm to his principles...
im not sure if i understand you correctly - if your outbreak friend was being fired at by someone who happens to be your ex corp mate from few months ago, you would leave your corp mate to die?
There can be only one Amon
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Trinity Faetal
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:11:00 -
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It is tragic really, verone did the right thing, i dont see why ppl make a fuss about if this should or should not have been posted. this is a forum ur suppose to post shi... uhm, stuff here .
thut' ur right, u should be able to count on ur corp mates to have your back, but sometimes friendship goes above corp members, it shouldn`t but thats just how it is sometimes.
they dint call him lamelani for nothing 
<3 Lei.
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Cerberix
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:38:00 -
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Kaleeb here (damn account expired)
While Verone did whats right for VETO I think Leilani did the right thing in a way, although personally I would have told my corp not to shoot my friend and my friend not to shoot my corp :)
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Twisted One
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Twisted One on 30/06/2006 11:43:22
I really dont get this not shooting 'mates' thing, lets not foget its a game and who better to play a game against than a mate, god damn it Id shoot my own mother and pod her ass if she played Eve.
Good luck in the new corp Leil, they are one lucky corp to have you on board.
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superscarface
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:10:00 -
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hahaha T1, that is so true. Unless they are begging for mercy on local or sending me isk, I'd teach any friend a good lesson in dying
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xenorx
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Posted - 2006.06.30 14:25:00 -
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I agree with Birdbleed here. Why does this even need to be posted on the E-O site? This is an internal issue within VETO. Leilani did the right thing to stay true to his principals. Veto did the right thing in removing him. Keep the dirty laundry in house and out of public view.
Leilani, I would still fly with you any day m8.
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2006.06.30 14:30:00 -
[57]
What a waste of a thread!!! Keep your corp crap to yourselves.
Leilani Good luck mate and see you in space!! and pop by for tea once in awhile.. we miss our tree huggin, head banging, long haired hippy!!!
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2006.06.30 14:56:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Twisted One
Edited by: Twisted One on 30/06/2006 11:43:22
I really dont get this not shooting 'mates' thing, lets not foget its a game and who better to play a game against than a mate, god damn it Id shoot my own mother and pod her ass if she played Eve.
Good luck in the new corp Leil, they are one lucky corp to have you on board.
umm that's what we're saying. we expect Veto members to pod their own mothers on sight, infact. (this may, or may not infact be true )
- Lao
Channels 'Bar Veto' (IC) & Public Channel 'Veto' |
Yblarbo Janks
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Posted - 2006.06.30 15:03:00 -
[59]
Yblarbo is so sad.
His mother was a glass tube experiment in a dead space complex and his daddy a space urchin or something. * cries *
Orphans never have a break.
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J4m Z
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:25:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: J4m Z
I've thrown battleships at a lost cause once or twice to try and save a corp mate in a pickle, I expect them to do them same for me, in my case. I would have kitted out a new ship and killed Leilani myself for betraying my trust.
*snip*
This is My opinion and mine alone. Don't blame Veto. for my anger.
You lost a ishkur.
Big deal.
Im still trying to figure out where the line of communication broke during this conflict.
Get your facts straight Mr. Trepkos, I was nowhere near this engagement. Spending some quality R'n'R time at the time.
The point I was trying to make was that his actions are inexcusable in my opinion.
Now before you post again, I'd ask you too at least make an effort to find out the facts before you state them.
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Ju'rek
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:53:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Ju''rek on 30/06/2006 18:53:18
Originally by: Laocoon
umm that's what we're saying. we expect Veto members to pod their own mothers on sight, infact. (this may, or may not infact be true )
Laocoon you n00b, were you one of the folks getting blown to bits?
And I hope you are more fond of former corpmates than your mother 
P.S. - give me a shout when you reach -10 
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2006.06.30 19:16:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Ju'rek
Edited by: Ju''rek on 30/06/2006 18:53:18
Originally by: Laocoon
umm that's what we're saying. we expect Veto members to pod their own mothers on sight, infact. (this may, or may not infact be true )
Laocoon you n00b, were you one of the folks getting blown to bits?
And I hope you are more fond of former corpmates than your mother
P.S. - give me a shout when you reach -10
dont bet on it ♥
- Lao
Channels 'Bar Veto' (IC) & Public Channel 'Veto' |
Amarr Citizen 154
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Posted - 2006.06.30 20:09:00 -
[63]
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176228&page=1
I thought I remembered something similar happening before with regard to Leilani. Perhaps some people never learn.....
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.06.30 21:20:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 154
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176228&page=1
I thought I remembered something similar happening before with regard to Leilani. Perhaps some people never learn.....
heh
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goazer
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Posted - 2006.07.01 23:31:00 -
[65]
i dont see the problem behind vetos post. Wether people think pirating is wrong in the first place so this guy did the "right thing" or not isnt the issue.
This guy violated his corps policy, you always need to know your corpmates got your back. The loss of the ishkur isnt the issue its the betrayal by a friend.
Not to say this guy was wrong cause he was put in the position of what friend to Backup but its all a game if the guy was really his friend he would have understood.
Also everyone makes posts public that someone somewhere feels isnt important enough to be posted on a public forum. The point of this forum is to further the eve community which this post does in how small or large a way i dont know but thats why the forum is here.
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Lefevre
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Posted - 2006.07.02 00:01:00 -
[66]
Verone you are starting to remind me off Zarquon Beeblebrox back when she was leading Teddybears at our prime time. We had similar issues such as this and irrc it was solved in exactly the same way including a message to the general population of eve similar to this one.
I personally think you did the right thing and your corp has gained standing in my book for handling the situation this way.
I wish you good luck in the future.. you're trying to do a thing that is very rare in eve these days.
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Mi Lai
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Posted - 2006.07.02 01:39:00 -
[67]
While it makes sense to drop the member at that point (I would do the same to any Sanguine member refusing to engage when ordered), I'm not sure it was necessary to put up the post on EVE-O.
Anyway, good luck to both parties.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.07.02 03:36:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Lefevre
Verone you are starting to remind me off Zarquon Beeblebrox back when she was leading Teddybears at our prime time. We had similar issues such as this and irrc it was solved in exactly the same way including a message to the general population of eve similar to this one.
I personally think you did the right thing and your corp has gained standing in my book for handling the situation this way.
I wish you good luck in the future.. you're trying to do a thing that is very rare in eve these days.
I'm flattered being even compared to Zarquon to be honest.
Thank you for the support, it's much appreciated.
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Plim
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Posted - 2006.07.02 04:35:00 -
[69]
Zarq didn't have to try to damn hard.
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:05:00 -
[70]
friends over corp anytime too, however I'd speak to my members about it to get 100% clarification.
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.07.02 19:46:00 -
[71]
If you can't fire at old friends, they are not true friends
Corp before anything else in my book
You Will Cry My Name
Funny Guys
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.07.03 10:15:00 -
[72]
Orders can be discussed after execution.
I`m with Nira Li in that question. I shot many friends in MMORPG`s, and after that we had a good laugh, when met in RL.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.07.03 10:47:00 -
[73]
Veto I totally agree with you here, when a person joins a corp they in effect swear alliegence to that corp and their corp mates. I have many in game friends, many who are red to me and that doesn't stop any of us shooting each other. My corp bonds transcend those to eve friends when it comes to who to shoot every time.
Sorry Leilani but you did wrong, your loyalty has to be to the corp else how can they trust each other to back each other up? You could join a freelance corp where you can do what you want but helping an enemy will still get you kicked I would think. We have shared corps in the past and have met in real life but I will still lock and fire as fast as I could if I saw you, doesn't mean I consider ou any less of an EvE friend.
In fact as Evil Thug said fighting with friends is a lot better, for example FIX came down to our space with about 40, we assembled a gang to match had maybe 50 (maybe a bit more) in our gang, we chased a bit, they setup at optimal at the other side and we jumped in. Had a great fight and afterwards had a great chat with Entilza Valen about it, much better than fighting someone who you don't know.
President
Huzzah Federation
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Yarek Balear
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:48:00 -
[74]
This isn't the first time that this pilot has behaved in this way. In the dim and distant past a very similar situation arose, where a hostile was being warned of danger from Leilani's own corp mates. Now while I don't agree with his actions then or now, or in the way that he was dealt with at the time, the Veto actions here appear appropriate.
If a pilot joins a corp but their principles dictate that they will not engage certain individuals, the pilot should state this clearly before joining and it should be clear for all to see who these individuals are (and for the corp to decide if they want that kind of baggage). To enter battle considering that you have a certain force with you, only to discover that part of your force is unwilling to engage is unacceptable and is something no corp mates should suffer.
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.07.03 13:19:00 -
[75]
At the end of the day it comes down to the pilots own opinion. You can all say i did wrong, but who is the only one to make the decision? me. If i decide i dont want to shoot someone i'm not going to shoot them. Simple as that. If you think that's wrong so be it, i don't care.
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James Snowscoran
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Posted - 2006.07.03 15:24:00 -
[76]
Good to see Veto. is still going strong.
For the people who claim this isn't worthy of a post, you could always check the link where Leilani made a whine thread claiming Freeks were backstabbers after getting the boot in a situation similiar to this one.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.07.03 16:21:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
At the end of the day it comes down to the pilots own opinion. You can all say i did wrong, but who is the only one to make the decision? me. If i decide i dont want to shoot someone i'm not going to shoot them. Simple as that. If you think that's wrong so be it, i don't care.
That is very correct but don't expect to join a corp where teamwork is the name of the game as not helping to defeat an enemy of the corporation when your corp mate is in trouble is betraying the trust they hold in you.
President
Huzzah Federation
Play EVE on the hard setting, join us. |
Levicus
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:33:00 -
[78]
Originally by: KilROCK
Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
Hey! I resemble that remark! 
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.07.04 11:15:00 -
[79]
Your mates eh?
I'd shoot them.....Already have several times now, sure they call you a ******* the next day, but so what, at least they realise its just a game, and its just for the craic, no permanent harm done.
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Tecam Hund
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Posted - 2006.07.04 20:55:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Tecam Hund on 04/07/2006 22:01:42
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
At the end of the day it comes down to the pilots own opinion. You can all say i did wrong, but who is the only one to make the decision? me. If i decide i dont want to shoot someone i'm not going to shoot them. Simple as that. If you think that's wrong so be it, i don't care.
That is very correct but don't expect to join a corp where teamwork is the name of the game as not helping to defeat an enemy of the corporation when your corp mate is in trouble is betraying the trust they hold in you.
Yes, but the issue here isn't that Leilani got kicked from the corp. Almost any corporation would kick a person for that. The problem is that Leilani is the only person to make the choice and nobody can judge if its right or if it is wrong. Now we have a drama here over nothing and public humiliation, if you can call it so, also for nothing.
Issues like that must stay internal if CEO of the corp respects its members. I personally think that Verone went on a power trip here by judging what he has no right to judge and making it public (just to clarify I don't mean kicking Leilani, but publicly accusing him of what isn't neccessarily wrong).
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.07.05 05:24:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Edited by: Tecam Hund on 04/07/2006 22:01:42
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
stuff
Issues like that must stay internal if CEO of the corp respects its members. I personally think that Verone went on a power trip here by judging what he has no right to judge and making it public (just to clarify I don't mean kicking Leilani, but publicly accusing him of what isn't neccessarily wrong).
Don't get me wrong, I think Verone is weak sauce BUT the idea of a leader acting as leader is not a power trip. If Veto feels it's something to be announced, then show it shall. Who are you to say otherwise? I mean personaly, this is something another corp might want to know. It's very hard to do a background check on people you recruit. So to whoever took this chap. Good call on recruiting quanity not quality IMHO.
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Je'hira Osiris
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Posted - 2006.07.05 09:11:00 -
[82]
ppl that have friends outside of the corp need to ask them to either move away or join. i would not tolerate this actions from my corp and i dont beleive any of the people with the corp would leave another memeber to die. I have attacked my rl friends in the game and have lost ships to them.
the point is if you dont 100% trust the ppl you r flying with you will loose.
Do whats best for the corp.....
Respect can be found for your enemy.... its jus a case of how hard you wanna look...
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:25:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Je'hira Osiris
ppl that have friends outside of the corp need to ask them to either move away or join. i would not tolerate this actions from my corp and i dont beleive any of the people with the corp would leave another memeber to die. I have attacked my rl friends in the game and have lost ships to them.
the point is if you dont 100% trust the ppl you r flying with you will loose.
Do whats best for the corp.....
That's why i'm not in your corp I've actually joined Gareitonis' corp (who was the solo thron pilot that i wouldn't engage) and i was planning on joining the corp before all of the stuff kicked off. Tell me, if you were planning on leaving a corp to join a friend, then that friend came to your system and attacked the corp you were planning on leaving anyway, would you still attack him? What would the point in that be?
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.07.06 11:49:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: Je'hira Osiris
ppl that have friends outside of the corp need to ask them to either move away or join. i would not tolerate this actions from my corp and i dont beleive any of the people with the corp would leave another memeber to die. I have attacked my rl friends in the game and have lost ships to them.
the point is if you dont 100% trust the ppl you r flying with you will loose.
Do whats best for the corp.....
That's why i'm not in your corp I've actually joined Gareitonis' corp (who was the solo thron pilot that i wouldn't engage) and i was planning on joining the corp before all of the stuff kicked off. Tell me, if you were planning on leaving a corp to join a friend, then that friend came to your system and attacked the corp you were planning on leaving anyway, would you still attack him? What would the point in that be?
Yep, the fun and the laugh after is what makes it worth
You Will Cry My Name
Funny Guys
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.07.06 16:17:00 -
[85]
Edited by: BirdBleed on 06/07/2006 16:18:35
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 05/07/2006 15:16:23
Quote:
Issues like that must stay internal if CEO of the corp respects its members. I personally think that Verone went on a power trip here by judging what he has no right to judge and making it public (just to clarify I don't mean kicking Leilani, but publicly accusing him of what isn't neccessarily wrong).
Don't get me wrong, I think Verone is weak sauce BUT the idea of a leader acting as leader is not a power trip. If Veto feels it's something to be announced, then show it shall. Who are you to say otherwise? I mean personaly, this is something another corp might want to know. It's very hard to do a background check on people you recruit. So to whoever took this chap. Good call on recruiting quanity not quality IMHO.
get a clue noob, leilani pwns you. Maybe if you step out of your little hole you will see that YOU sir are in the quantity group :P
TBH Veto was just a fling, leilani wanted to pirate so he joined a pirate corp, i doubt his loyalties ever strayed from his true allies in this game. Yes its lame what he did, but veto are pirates so who gives a ****.
This thread should be on veto private boards not in public forums, the only reason its here is because veto are ****ed off.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.07.06 18:51:00 -
[86]
Originally by: BirdBleed
Edited by: BirdBleed on 06/07/2006 16:18:35
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 05/07/2006 15:16:23
Quote:
Issues like that must stay internal if CEO of the corp respects its members. I personally think that Verone went on a power trip here by judging what he has no right to judge and making it public (just to clarify I don't mean kicking Leilani, but publicly accusing him of what isn't neccessarily wrong).
Don't get me wrong, I think Verone is weak sauce BUT the idea of a leader acting as leader is not a power trip. If Veto feels it's something to be announced, then show it shall. Who are you to say otherwise? I mean personaly, this is something another corp might want to know. It's very hard to do a background check on people you recruit. So to whoever took this chap. Good call on recruiting quanity not quality IMHO.
get a clue noob, leilani pwns you. Maybe if you step out of your little hole you will see that YOU sir are in the quantity group :P
TBH Veto was just a fling, leilani wanted to pirate so he joined a pirate corp, i doubt his loyalties ever strayed from his true allies in this game. Yes its lame what he did, but veto are pirates so who gives a ****.
This thread should be on veto private boards not in public forums, the only reason its here is because veto are ****ed off.
I'm in a small corp lead by myself. While you were mining in all those indust corps you were apart of, I was killing people. Ignorance is bliss.
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.07.07 02:50:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Originally by: BirdBleed
Edited by: BirdBleed on 06/07/2006 16:18:35
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 05/07/2006 15:16:23
Quote:
Issues like that must stay internal if CEO of the corp respects its members. I personally think that Verone went on a power trip here by judging what he has no right to judge and making it public (just to clarify I don't mean kicking Leilani, but publicly accusing him of what isn't neccessarily wrong).
Don't get me wrong, I think Verone is weak sauce BUT the idea of a leader acting as leader is not a power trip. If Veto feels it's something to be announced, then show it shall. Who are you to say otherwise? I mean personaly, this is something another corp might want to know. It's very hard to do a background check on people you recruit. So to whoever took this chap. Good call on recruiting quanity not quality IMHO.
get a clue noob, leilani pwns you. Maybe if you step out of your little hole you will see that YOU sir are in the quantity group :P
TBH Veto was just a fling, leilani wanted to pirate so he joined a pirate corp, i doubt his loyalties ever strayed from his true allies in this game. Yes its lame what he did, but veto are pirates so who gives a ****.
This thread should be on veto private boards not in public forums, the only reason its here is because veto are ****ed off.
I'm in a small corp lead by myself. While you were mining in all those indust corps you were apart of, I was killing people. Ignorance is bliss.
practise what you preach You sir are the ignorant 1, you dont know leilani and you dont know me, think pefore you post next time, it might get you somewhere :P
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.07.07 03:13:00 -
[88]
I don't need to know you to read your corp history of industry corps. Nothing ignorant about what's fact. On the other hand, calling people "noobs" when you obviously are "new" to combat based on your corp histroy is pretty ignorant. If I'm wrong and all those corps that say "We are a industry corp". Then please accept my sorries. Other than that, you and her are new to our domain of piracy.
So before you start saying "You don't know me, you ignorant1128+3=5 nubzbbq". Remember, I'm going off fact and you're going off assumption.
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2006.07.07 07:50:00 -
[89]
(Veto still has roughly 600m worth of his assets in our possession and are currently in the process of making sure they're safely returned to him.)
you should give an amount total to the loss of which the guys who where betrayed lost.
That is not tolerated in my corp and ill be sure to let all my men know you leave a corp member in battle like that ill kill you myself. If he liked that other guy so much he should of joined his corp instead of yours. 
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Emno
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Posted - 2006.07.07 08:20:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Edited by: Tecam Hund on 04/07/2006 22:01:42
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
At the end of the day it comes down to the pilots own opinion. You can all say i did wrong, but who is the only one to make the decision? me. If i decide i dont want to shoot someone i'm not going to shoot them. Simple as that. If you think that's wrong so be it, i don't care.
That is very correct but don't expect to join a corp where teamwork is the name of the game as not helping to defeat an enemy of the corporation when your corp mate is in trouble is betraying the trust they hold in you.
Yes, but the issue here isn't that Leilani got kicked from the corp. Almost any corporation would kick a person for that. The problem is that Leilani is the only person to make the choice and nobody can judge if its right or if it is wrong. Now we have a drama here over nothing and public humiliation, if you can call it so, also for nothing.
right/wrong whatever it's a very emo thing to do 
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Issues like that must stay internal if CEO of the corp respects its members. I personally think that Verone went on a power trip here by judging what he has no right to judge and making it public (just to clarify I don't mean kicking Leilani, but publicly accusing him of what isn't neccessarily wrong).
reminds me of a corp thief thread, they are dont trust this person with hanger access threads this is don't trust this person in a gang thread
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Tecam Hund
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Posted - 2006.07.07 11:22:00 -
[91]
Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
Tecam Hund: Leilani is the only person to make the choice and nobody can judge if its right or if it is wrong.
omg hippies, thank god your not in the army or a cop.
Yeah, thank god for that
Anyhow, its pretty much down to personal opinion. All I was saying that it was not neccessary to make a public matter out of what Leilani thought to be right.
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Emno
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:43:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Tecam Hund
All I was saying that it was not neccessary to make a public matter out of what Leilani thought to be right.
would it be worth it when it happens for the third time?
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2006.07.08 05:52:00 -
[93]
Its importent to make stuff like this public so CEO's can see who app's to reject. What is the point in letting somone into your corp that does PVP if they wont back you up in a battle its nonsense. Defeats the purpose its like being in a gang of 15 people each all in different systems doing there own thing refusing to work together its nonsense.
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DAgandalF
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Posted - 2006.07.11 22:07:00 -
[94]
a friend is a friend
and you making your members shoot friends is stupid and a showing of no respect for your members.
Veto is a good corp, but by this you made it look stupid.
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Beat me up, scotty
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deadEd
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Posted - 2006.07.12 06:35:00 -
[95]
Originally by: DAgandalF
a friend is a friend
and you making your members shoot friends is stupid and a showing of no respect for your members.
Veto is a good corp, but by this you made it look stupid.
If you actually read what happened, they didn't single out someone's friend. They're NBSI, which means they shoot the hell out of anything and anyone, and don't hide the fact that it's their MO either. They're not going to have the time (or inclination, for that matter) to clear every potential kill with all members just to make sure it's ok. By that time, your target is either 3 or 4 systems away, or has dropped 1 or 2 of your ships while you sat around arguing about it.
NBSI is a harsh policy...if you can't hack it, a corp that's openly NBSI isn't for you. Simple as that.
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DeadProphet
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Posted - 2006.07.12 08:47:00 -
[96]
if friends are friends at all, they will remain so regardless of wether you are currently shooting them.
your loyalties should lie with your corp, and you should obey their policies as your own.
if you can't handle being in a corp that shoots anything and everything, then don't join one when you fully know the score beforehand.
IMO
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.07.12 11:14:00 -
[97]
omg lets make a mountain out of a mole hill !!! leilani is in gares corp now, they are pwning everything together. I suggest everyone step back from your computers, take a deep breath, and say out loud .... "this is only a game"
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Fitz Chivalry
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Posted - 2006.07.12 11:52:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Fitz Chivalry on 12/07/2006 11:52:34
I ganked my best friend in the EVE universe and much fun was had by all (especially me) 
o/ Super :)
If you can't shoot your friends then who can you shoot?
edit: to remove ooc comment
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ching'sta
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:40:00 -
[99]
shooting friends is the best!! they whine like babys for 30min then we laugh at it :D
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Hudplo
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:07:00 -
[100]
This whole threads sounds like a whine by a PvP corp that claims to be good. Two of its members got owned by a single guy and now they're embarrassed and are trying to blame someone other than themselves. |
Emno
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 16:08:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Hudplo
This whole threads sounds like a whine by a PvP corp that claims to be good. Two of its members got owned by a single guy and now they're embarrassed and are trying to blame someone other than themselves.
sentries...
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.17 12:55:00 -
[102]
@Kilrock:
A couple of months ago we took 6 BSs with 6 bored corpm8s and went looking for trouble. (we were also a bot drunk some of us). Upon arriving at the system with the huge red blip in the map we realised we forgot to bring a ceptor.
We promptly dispatched the last guy seen in a ceptor that day (who, by now was flying a Dominix sadly :D) to investigate.
After jumping through he said there were about 30 hostiles camping on the other side of whom 10+ in Snipe set up BSs...
We laughed a bit about (we were a bit unsober as I said) we decided to also jump through as we didnt want to leave him die alone. We went through fought briefly and regrouped at safe with 5 pods and a Raven.
We laughed some more about it and then dipatched the surviving Raven to the enemy controlled/owned station of the system telling them in local "he is going to the station go get him ...blah blah blah ...
One of my best experiences in eve ....
Tell me this guy was a very good friend of his and I might listen but tell me he warped out because he saw the situation was not good tactically and I will say B*****t
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Gareitonis
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.18 11:13:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Emno
Originally by: Hudplo
This whole threads sounds like a whine by a PvP corp that claims to be good. Two of its members got owned by a single guy and now they're embarrassed and are trying to blame someone other than themselves.
sentries...
for the record, the sentries only shot at the megathron, i did fight the 3 guys alone (celestis, ishkur, thron) |
Haiyooo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.18 14:58:00 -
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So when is verone leaving the corp? I mean losing a commandship becuz you didnt obey simple rules of engagement.
2006.07.11 17:10
Victim: Verone
Alliance: None
Corp: Veto.
Destroyed: Astarte
System: Oyonata
Security: 0.3
Involved parties:
Name: Haiyooo (laid the final blow)
Security: -3.5
Alliance: Verisum Family
Corp: Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Ship: Tempest
Weapon: Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
Name: Je'hira Osiris
Security: -10.0
Alliance: Verisum Family
Corp: Knights of Chaos
Ship: Pilgrim
Weapon: Hammerhead II
Name: Dark Eagle
Security: -9.2
Alliance: Verisum Family
Corp: Knights of Chaos
Ship: Jaguar
Weapon: Jaguar
Name: Ocean Soul
Security: -10.0
Alliance: Verisum Family
Corp: Knights of Chaos
Ship: Armageddon
Weapon: Hobgoblin I
Name: Qutornia
Security: -10.0
Alliance: Verisum Family
Corp: Knights of Chaos
Ship: Executioner
Weapon: Warp Disruptor I
Name: Gyle
Security: -9.9
Alliance: Verisum Family
Corp: Knights of Chaos
Ship: Falcon
Weapon: Heavy Missile Launcher II
Destroyed items:
Heavy Ion Blaster II
Cap Booster 800, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Void M, Qty: 2402 (Cargo)
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Stasis Webifier I
J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I
Heavy Ion Blaster II
Heavy Ion Blaster II
Heavy Ion Blaster II
Internal Force Field Array I
Acolyte II (Drone Bay)
Acolyte II (Drone Bay)
Acolyte II (Drone Bay)
Warrior II (Drone Bay)
Warrior II (Drone Bay)
Void M, Qty: 117
Void M, Qty: 117
Void M, Qty: 117
Void M, Qty: 117
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Tecam Hund
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.18 15:26:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Haiyooo
Stuff
So... What exactly did you mean by this?..
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Backdoor Bandit
Minmatar Gay Rights League
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Posted - 2006.07.18 15:35:00 -
[106]
It means that they managed to kill Verone and are so insanely proud of a six man gank that they're making a tenuous link to the Leilani situation in order to 'tell the world'.
Expect flames.
In other news, Garetonis is a nub.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.07.18 16:04:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Backdoor Bandit
It means that they managed to kill Verone and are so insanely proud of a six man gank that they're making a tenuous link to the Leilani situation in order to 'tell the world'.
Exactly what i was thinking, considering I was almost perma jammed by a falcon and a pilgrim for like... 90% of the fight, and the other 10% I was tracking disrupted and nossed so heavily I couldn't hit the tempest that was sat at my optimal range.
I'm flattered you feel you've made such a huge impact on my life in Eve by killing my Astarte with a stabbed up 6 man ECM gank squad, the fact I have another FIFTEEN of them in my hangar, means absolutley nothing to me.
Actually I'm appauled at how long it took SIX people to kill me in close range fitted ships, while I was jammed AND Nossed.
Then again, I can't expect much more from an alliance who smacktalks their way into a war on the IGS and has to hire mercs to bail them out
Posting killmails is aganist the rules
VETO RECRUITMENT |
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Imaran
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Posted - 2006.07.18 16:13:00 -
[108]
This one seems to have gone far enough.
Locked for flaming, and trolling.
*click*
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