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Verone
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:30:00 -
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This evening Veto suffered it's first major member casualty due to failure to adhere to corporate policy.
During an engagement under sentry guns in Cumemare, two of our devoted members lost a Megathron, and Iskhur to combined fire from sentry guns and a Blasterthron due to a corpmate leaving them to die, whilst flying their gang support ship.
Pilot Leilani Solaris, piloting a dominix refused to continue the engagement after warping in to see an ingame friend under attack by Veto vessels, warping out and leaving both members to die.
The non Veto pilot initially caused the agression against one of the Veto gang members, holds no standings towards our corporation and has niether applied for, paid for, nor requested positive standings to our corp. He is considered neutral and there for, KOS.
On joining Veto, every member of our family swears loyalty to the corp, to their new ingame family and to the few basic rules we uphold. Tonight these rules were betrayed, and two brothers were left to die on the battlefield.
After initial investigation, the choice was made unanimously after a good track record to let Leilani remain in the corp providing there was full assurance that this was a one off occurance and that our two members would be fully reimbursed for the damage caused by disregarding corp policy.
The policy has also been extended to clarify exactly how the corp stands with regards to personal standings, irrespective of the fact that it was already clear to corp members in the old draft.
Before the news was broken to Leilani however, it was decided that the full penalty for breach of our rules would be enforced, after the ammendments to the corp policy were personally slammed by him on our corporate forum, and he openly admitted he would continue to jeapordise the vessels of corp members by not conforming to our corp standings.
The Veto family has spoken, and decided that ejection from the corp is the only means of resolving the situation.
Sadly, after 24 hours we will part ways.
Veto will not tolerate insubordination in our ranks.
VETO RECRUITMENT |
Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:32:00 -
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You are posting because you kicked someone?
Oh-kay then.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Blacklight
You are posting because you kicked someone?
Oh-kay then.
I have to agree with Blacklight here, Verone.
But not a bad move on your part, just was it worthy to post?
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Angel Deep Corporation
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sister 9 on 30/06/2006 00:37:44
is this really eve-o forum worthy stuff? probably not. |
Verone
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Blacklight
You are posting because you kicked someone?
Oh-kay then.
I have to agree with Blacklight here, Verone.
But not a bad move on your part, just was it worthy to post?
In the past, people we've removed have attempted to kick up a week of yellow ****storms for our corp, and our name.
This covers our back.
VETO RECRUITMENT |
Finkly
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:39:00 -
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\o/ Not a BoB thread :)
I think he's trying to warm future Corps not to trust this guy as his loyalties clearly arnt with his corp. |
introuder
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:40:00 -
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nice post verone
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Finkly
\o/ Not a BoB thread :)
I think he's trying to warm future Corps not to trust this guy as his loyalties clearly arnt with his corp.
yeh true,
though, Veto, well known corp, like their nice forum posts. but sometimes people need to understand less is more. forum spamming, really makes them look a bit cheap.
though i hope a small blemish in Veto's forum posting record ;) |
Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 30/06/2006 00:44:37
And this is worthy of a forum post why exactly?
Edit: typo.
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 30/06/2006 00:44:37
And this is worthy of a forum post why exactly?
Edit: typo.
Hes making you an example. Heh
Goodluck finding a new corp.
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Angel Deep Corporation
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Spike 68
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:45:00 -
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friends over corp anytime, I would have done the same thing, retarded post btw
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 30/06/2006 00:44:37
And this is worthy of a forum post why exactly?
Edit: typo.
Hes making you an example. Heh
Goodluck finding a new corp.
Already found one 
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Finkly
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Finkly on 30/06/2006 00:47:50
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 30/06/2006 00:44:37
And this is worthy of a forum post why exactly?
Edit: typo.
Hes making you an example. Heh
Goodluck finding a new corp.
Already found one
In that case i guess he should be wishing them good luck instead. |
Sacul
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:49:00 -
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Come join me Leilani, i'll teach u how to blow up a raven, Rick will just make u mine
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:52:00 -
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Geez, who cares 
Whine whine whine, sigs |
IamBen
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:54:00 -
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Well thats a cool policy. But I dont know if the whole world needed to know it. Maybe this would be better in crime and punishment or in an RP section? Yarr Veto are scary pirates?
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Vosi
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:56:00 -
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I hope i dont scare you ben o/
Just a quick wave :)
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Dumus
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:00:00 -
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When I joined VETO I wrote and told ALL my friends in game and told them what I was going to do, and that they would be shot at and in fact actively hunted if I was in their patch They all said 'fine but not if we find you first'
This is sad to lose such a good guy but I agree with the decision. We stand together as a family before a corp. I know I for one would throw my last ISK into the fight to defend a corp mate whatever the situation. I know this is the case for the rest of us. We cannot have someone stand beside us and wonder if they will fight.
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IamBen
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:02:00 -
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Vosi hey mate :)
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:03:00 -
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For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
Whine whine whine, sigs |
Gareitonis
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
For what it's worth, only the megathron was shot at by the sentries. I'm sorry to see that my actions caused a good friend to lose a place in a well respected corp.
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Dumus
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
You are not fully aware of the exact circumstances of the fight. Please be civil.
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Gareitonis
Originally by: KilROCK
For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
For what it's worth, only the megathron was shot at by the sentries. I'm sorry to see that my actions caused a good friend to lose a place in a well respected corp.
I still love you <3 ♥ 
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dumus
Originally by: KilROCK
For all i care, He did the smart thing. I wouldn't even have pirated with that megathron and ishkur. Pirating under sentry fire in a ishkur, isn't that the kind of dumb pilots you get from sniggwaffe?
He's better off getting kicked if all he's going to get is idiotic unexperienced pirates in his gang.
There's a time when you have to choose if it's worth losing 1-2 ships or all of them, He chose right.
Tough ****, useless post.
You are not fully aware of the exact circumstances of the fight. Please be civil.
The 'decent' megathron pilot was a friend. The crappy megathron engaged, The Dominix pilot didn't want to take part of it since it was a friend. Lack of communication in the first place between both the Attacking megathron and the gang members.
Now.. Shesh, I'm never civil.
Whine whine whine, sigs |
Turiya Flesharrower
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:16:00 -
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I like Veto, but this just seems like a cry for publicity during a relative dry spell in dramatic events. On the other hand, things are kinda boring around here anyway so whatever.
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Tobias Sjodin
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 30/06/2006 01:18:38
I don't really care whether it would've been three dead people if the Dominix would've stayed. It might not have been, and that's enough reason to stay and fight.
The way I see it, you die together, or fly away together.
I don't know how many ships I've lost under overwhelming odds, fighting together with my friends, but I do it any day.
You don't abandon your own, that's betrayal, pure and simple.
Perhaps this could've been handled internally though.
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J4m Z
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:18:00 -
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I've thrown battleships at a lost cause once or twice to try and save a corp mate in a pickle, I expect them to do them same for me, in my case. I would have kitted out a new ship and killed Leilani myself for betraying my trust.
The people here saying Lei did right. can just go ahead and **** off.
This is My opinion and mine alone. Don't blame Veto. for my anger.
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: J4m Z
I've thrown battleships at a lost cause once or twice to try and save a corp mate in a pickle, I expect them to do them same for me, in my case. I would have kitted out a new ship and killed Leilani myself for betraying my trust.
The people here saying Lei did right. can just go ahead and **** off.
This is My opinion and mine alone. Don't blame Veto. for my anger.
You lost a ishkur.
Big deal.
Im still trying to figure out where the line of communication broke during this conflict.
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Angel Deep Corporation
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Yblarbo Janks
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:33:00 -
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I wrote a nice reply.
And the system ate it. So let me try again.
I invite everyone to step outside the mindset for a minute and look at it this way.
A leader is someone who can get a group of people, manage them in a way that everyone builds and capitalizes on the strengths, and reinforces the weaknesess of the group. To do this, the leader must make some rules and policies to define how everyone does exactly that.
The Good leader is someone who not only knows how to do this, but is able to get everyone to actually follow the rules and policies despite the personal conflicts that WILL happen when you get any two people together (much less more).
A great leader though, is one that will make the tough decisions to keep everything running. If they don't, then things will simply cease to function as well as they could and ultimately it's going to be over.
And I do not write this as someone who runs a virtual group, I'm speaking of someone who manages a real life business. And it applies perfectly to the virtual corporations.
Anybody can train the skill to start a corporation in Eve.
But the leaders' policies and rules is what MAKES the corporation.
And how the corporation's polices and rules are enforced is what makes the corporations image and reputation.
This is something for everyone to think about when looking to start a corporation or even join one. If you notice, everything above I stated doesn't even have to deal with VETO, its has to deal with the entire subject of this very forum. Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions
Now to get back to the mindset of Veto, when I see what's happening here, I have admiration for both point of views of both sides. Friends and Corporation. Not Friends vs Corporation, because everyone can debate which is better till the cows come home. Both are very admirable things to honor. There are people in this game and in real life that honor NEITHER, and those are the people that honestly everyone should avoid on every level of group-activity.
That's all I have to say on it.
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laotse
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:34:00 -
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black get alive m8 you have way to much time 
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