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![Grobalobobob Bob Grobalobobob Bob](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90488561/portrait?size=64)
Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:32:00 -
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So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious... |
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![Chribba Chribba](https://images.evetech.net/characters/196379789/portrait?size=64)
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12321
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:34:00 -
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If it's technically RMT, what makes you think it's ok?
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![dustonio dustonio](https://images.evetech.net/characters/210880175/portrait?size=64)
dustonio
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:34:00 -
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Most Likely. The reason for this is that those taps and that grouting cost real-world moolah... any transfer of EVE characters must be done for isk and isk only.
EDIT: Chribba beat me. I feel sad inside now :P |
![Tippia Tippia](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1938874952/portrait?size=64)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23179
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:35:00 -
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=ƒö½ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
![Lachra Lachra](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94082083/portrait?size=64)
Lachra
Union of Labor
88
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:38:00 -
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Well, in my little world RMT relates to paying money for unfair advantage in-game either for ISK / assets. Why would CCP care who logs in behind the keyboard if the mechanics of the game are unaffected. That's like saying if my father sat behind the keyboard whilst I was playing EVE and I went to get a cup o' tea, I'm eligible for the banhammer. Thanks dad... |
![Christina Project Christina Project](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94723541/portrait?size=64)
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
309
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote:![Roll](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) =ƒö½ Lol that handgun. Nice. - When there's a mew, there's a way! - |
![Kaarous Aldurald Kaarous Aldurald](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91819847/portrait?size=64)
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7951
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:39:00 -
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I think that even bringing this up on the forums stands a fair chance of putting you under a microscope that you won't like. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
![Christina Project Christina Project](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94723541/portrait?size=64)
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
309
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:39:00 -
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Lachra wrote:Well, in my little world RMT relates to paying money for unfair advantage in-game either for ISK / assets. Why would CCP care who logs in behind the keyboard if the mechanics of the game are unaffected. That's like saying if my father sat behind the keyboard whilst I was playing EVE and I went to get a cup o' tea, I'm eligible for the banhammer. Thanks dad... Why don't you adjust your little bubble to actually mirror reality? - When there's a mew, there's a way! - |
![Blobskillz McBlub Blobskillz McBlub](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93016517/portrait?size=64)
Blobskillz McBlub
STAHLSTURM
7
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:39:00 -
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Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious...
well and now CCP has your IP adress and will swiftly ban the account |
![dustonio dustonio](https://images.evetech.net/characters/210880175/portrait?size=64)
dustonio
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:41:00 -
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Lachra wrote:Well, in my little world RMT relates to paying money for unfair advantage in-game either for ISK / assets. Why would CCP care who logs in behind the keyboard if the mechanics of the game are unaffected. That's like saying if my father sat behind the keyboard whilst I was playing EVE and I went to get a cup o' tea, I'm eligible for the banhammer. Thanks dad...
Actually the two situations are completely different. RMT involves one person selling an in-game item (yes, characters can be considered an item or asset) for something of real world value. You letting your dad play on your account (provided you logged yourself in and he doesn't know the password) is not a bannable offense nor would CCP know that you had done so. With transferring ownership of a character without posting in the character bazaar AND no trace of isk transfer between the account, they have to assume RMT and thus ban the accounts in question.
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![Ria Nieyli Ria Nieyli](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93882612/portrait?size=64)
Ria Nieyli
12945
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:42:00 -
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Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious...
Is the plumber your identical twin? Do not remove a fly from your friend's forehead with a hatchet.
- Ancient Chinese Proverb |
![dustonio dustonio](https://images.evetech.net/characters/210880175/portrait?size=64)
dustonio
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:43:00 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious... Is the plumber your identical twin?
Do i want to know where this is leading? |
![Grobalobobob Bob Grobalobobob Bob](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90488561/portrait?size=64)
Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:44:00 -
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Blobskillz McBlub wrote:Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious... well and now CCP has your IP adress and will swiftly ban the account
I gave my plumber the laptop for the ensuite upstairs!
Dont know why.. the question popped into my head. I just figured RMT was mining tech goo for a year and selling it all for CASH. I dont know if RMT encompass intellectual property or a favour.
I gave my Paladin to my friend for shouting dinner for me and the missus at a west end restaurant.. Sounds absurd that this could be against the EULA... yet technically it is... |
![Lachra Lachra](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94082083/portrait?size=64)
Lachra
Union of Labor
88
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:45:00 -
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dustonio wrote:[quote=Lachra]With transferring ownership of a character without posting in the character bazaar AND no trace of isk transfer between the account, they have to assume RMT and thus ban the accounts in question.
How would they know that the account has been transferred, however? if it was my job to see if characters are being subject to RMT, what would be the identifying factors if there was nothing on record? I have no idea who's behind the keyboard at a given moment. |
![dustonio dustonio](https://images.evetech.net/characters/210880175/portrait?size=64)
dustonio
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:46:00 -
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Grobalobobob Bob wrote:Blobskillz McBlub wrote:Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious... well and now CCP has your IP adress and will swiftly ban the account I gave my plumber the laptop for the ensuite upstairs! Dont know why.. the question popped into my head. I just figured RMT was mining tech goo for a year and selling it all for CASH. I dont know if RMT encompass intellectual property or a favour. I gave my Paladin to my friend for shouting dinner for me and the missus at a west end restaurant.. Sounds absurd that this could be against the EULA... yet technically it is...
It's not absurd. In-game assets (which include characters) MUST be sold for ISK ONLY! They can never have a real world equivalent in exchange for them. Even with plex, once you buy it, you can't sell it for real money.
Lachra wrote:dustonio wrote:With transferring ownership of a character without posting in the character bazaar AND no trace of isk transfer between the account, they have to assume RMT and thus ban the accounts in question. How would they know that the account has been transferred, however? if it was my job to see if characters are being subject to RMT, what would be the identifying factors if there was nothing on record? I have no idea who's behind the keyboard at a given moment.
In reply to your question, they would know simply by the different IP address as well as the fact that it's been proven that certain system data relating to your network card and setup is sent to CCP. One such piece of info is the MAC Address or Physical Hardware address of your network card. Say for example you only logged in from one public ip with 5 different mac addresses or rather computers. Then you all of a sudden change IPs AND only login from a completely different mac address. They can then assume if none of the other mac addresses login for a certain length of time, that the account was transferred in violation of the EULA. |
![Emma Muutaras Emma Muutaras](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92707100/portrait?size=64)
Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:48:00 -
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is it RMT yes
is there a nifty way round it via the character bazaar again the answer is yes
still it is against the rules but its kinda unenforceable the unfortunate truth with the character bazaar you could in theory sell your toon for real life $$$ and then transfer the toon to there account via the character bazaar and everything looks ligit
after all its YOU the player that decides how much isk you value your toon at |
![Ria Nieyli Ria Nieyli](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93882612/portrait?size=64)
Ria Nieyli
12946
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:52:00 -
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dustonio wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious... Is the plumber your identical twin? Do i want to know where this is leading?
Depends if you like pulp fiction... Do not remove a fly from your friend's forehead with a hatchet.
- Ancient Chinese Proverb |
![Victor Andall Victor Andall](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93862250/portrait?size=64)
Victor Andall
610
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:55:00 -
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If I make a stupid thread that is obviously a blatant infringement of the rules, is it technically trolling? I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? |
![Grobalobobob Bob Grobalobobob Bob](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90488561/portrait?size=64)
Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.07.16 11:59:00 -
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I know these questions are somewhat lame, but, i'm still very curious.
Do CCP actively police this though?
How can they prove that when I handed my friend a Moros, it was actually to pay him back for a party he forked out for.
There has to be a line somewhere.. paladin, moros, aeon ? Titan ? at what point would CCP start to frown.. my guess is small time fry like this is irrelevant.. but if you were selling trillions of isk / mucho real value $$$ RMTing then the banhammer would fall on your head like Thors Hammer.
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![Serene Repose Serene Repose](https://images.evetech.net/characters/964766469/portrait?size=64)
Serene Repose
1445
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:08:00 -
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No. It would not. Essentially, as far as the internet is concerned, you gave this guy your character. It doesn't matter if he's a plumber. It doesn't matter if he was at your house. It's irrelevant. It's up to him totally if he wants to accept money, or something else for his services.
In your case no money was involved. That being the case, no money was involved. There are those that would (have) argue the supplies used cost money, and the plumbers time is worth money. These things are the plumber's concern, not yours. He's free to spend his money and time any way he sees fit (as long as its legal). If he wishes to transact with you in a way where no money is involved, he's free to do so.
Since no money was involved...the "M" in RMT doesn't exist. Ipso facto, wtf are all these people going on about? Believe me, if someone tried to pursue this in court claiming RMT occurred they would be laughed out by the judge who would (naturally) refuse to hear the case, and would investigate if the pursuant attorney really did attend law school, rather than get his degree by mailing in a cereal box top and waiting six to ten weeks. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
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![Grimpak Grimpak](https://images.evetech.net/characters/730676275/portrait?size=64)
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1723
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:09:00 -
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Grobalobobob Bob wrote:Technically it's RMT
so, you posted a question to which you answered yourself already.
any other questions? [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
![Christina Project Christina Project](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94723541/portrait?size=64)
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
310
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:13:00 -
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Lachra wrote:dustonio wrote:With transferring ownership of a character without posting in the character bazaar AND no trace of isk transfer between the account, they have to assume RMT and thus ban the accounts in question. How would they know that the account has been transferred, however? if it was my job to see if characters are being subject to RMT, what would be the identifying factors if there was nothing on record? I have no idea who's behind the keyboard at a given moment. Disclaimer: I have never conducted RMT, nor have any interest in transferring my account. Uhm... accounts are not being transferred, only characters. Handing someone my accountname and password on a piece of paper isn't really transferring the account anywhere. - When there's a mew, there's a way! - |
![Grobalobobob Bob Grobalobobob Bob](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90488561/portrait?size=64)
Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:13:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:No. It would not. Essentially, as far as the internet is concerned, you gave this guy your character. It doesn't matter if he's a plumber. It doesn't matter if he was at your house. It's irrelevant. It's up to him totally if he wants to accept money, or something else for his services.
In your case no money was involved. That being the case, no money was involved. There are those that would (have) argue the supplies used cost money, and the plumbers time is worth money. These things are the plumber's concern, not yours. He's free to spend his money and time any way he sees fit (as long as its legal). If he wishes to transact with you in a way where no money is involved, he's free to do so.
Since no money was involved...the "M" in RMT doesn't exist. Ipso facto, wtf are all these people going on about? Believe me, if someone tried to pursue this in court claiming RMT occurred they would be laughed out by the judge who would (naturally) refuse to hear the case, and would investigate if the pursuant attorney really did attend law school, rather than get his degree by mailing in a cereal box top and waiting six to ten weeks.
TBH this.
Serene Repose, i think you nailed right on the head; my exact doubts on this.
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![Wacktopia Wacktopia](https://images.evetech.net/characters/471415158/portrait?size=64)
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
667
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:16:00 -
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Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious...
Serene Repose wrote:There are those that would (have) argue the supplies used cost money, and the plumbers time is worth money. These things are the plumber's concern, not yours. He's free to spend his money and time any way he sees fit (as long as its legal). If he wishes to transact with you in a way where no money is involved, he's free to do so.
Technically your plumber has also just committed tax evasion since the value of any goods or any service you offer must be added into your income if they're the kinds of things you normally earn income from. Whilst your EVE character technically holds no value, for tax purposes in this context it would likely be argued to have a value equivalent to the service performed. -// Public Fleets: http://fleet-up.com/Operation/Public //- |
![Emma Muutaras Emma Muutaras](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92707100/portrait?size=64)
Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:21:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:No. It would not. Essentially, as far as the internet is concerned, you gave this guy your character. It doesn't matter if he's a plumber. It doesn't matter if he was at your house. It's irrelevant. It's up to him totally if he wants to accept money, or something else for his services.
In your case no money was involved. That being the case, no money was involved. There are those that would (have) argue the supplies used cost money, and the plumbers time is worth money. These things are the plumber's concern, not yours. He's free to spend his money and time any way he sees fit (as long as its legal). If he wishes to transact with you in a way where no money is involved, he's free to do so.
Since no money was involved...the "M" in RMT doesn't exist. Ipso facto, wtf are all these people going on about? Believe me, if someone tried to pursue this in court claiming RMT occurred they would be laughed out by the judge who would (naturally) refuse to hear the case, and would investigate if the pursuant attorney really did attend law school, rather than get his degree by mailing in a cereal box top and waiting six to ten weeks.
to this i would say that although the M stands for money your right no money changed hands, however most people consider goods or services received as payment a substitute for money and is still considered as money in the eyes of the law (in the uk at least).
if you employed a illegal immigrant in the UK and payed them with accommodation and food ( a substitute for money ) you would still receive a fine of -ú10,000 |
![Tippia Tippia](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1938874952/portrait?size=64)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23180
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:34:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Since no money was involved...the "M" in RMT doesn't exist. Ipso facto, wtf are all these people going on about? The fact that RMT isn't limited to money but all forms of out-of-game goods and services.
Or, to quote the old GM post, GÇ£The only out-of-game services that may be sold for ISK are directly EVE related web services, such as killboard hosting, ventrilo/teamspeak servers, corporation website hosting, and such. No, you may not get your mate to wash your car for ISK, even if he will wear a EVE t-shirt in the process.GÇ¥ Trading your character, being an EVE asset, follows the same logic. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
![dustonio dustonio](https://images.evetech.net/characters/210880175/portrait?size=64)
dustonio
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:43:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Since no money was involved...the "M" in RMT doesn't exist. Ipso facto, wtf are all these people going on about? The fact that RMT isn't limited to money but all forms of out-of-game goods and services. Or, to quote the old GM post, GÇ£The only out-of-game services that may be sold for ISK are directly EVE related web services, such as killboard hosting, ventrilo/teamspeak servers, corporation website hosting, and such. No, you may not get your mate to wash your car for ISK, even if he will wear a EVE t-shirt in the process.GÇ¥ Trading your character, being an EVE asset, follows the same logic.
Thank you... you sir, are a saint who explained it better than i. |
![Grobalobobob Bob Grobalobobob Bob](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90488561/portrait?size=64)
Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:47:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Since no money was involved...the "M" in RMT doesn't exist. Ipso facto, wtf are all these people going on about? The fact that RMT isn't limited to money but all forms of out-of-game goods and services. Or, to quote the old GM post, GÇ£The only out-of-game services that may be sold for ISK are directly EVE related web services, such as killboard hosting, ventrilo/teamspeak servers, corporation website hosting, and such. No, you may not get your mate to wash your car for ISK, even if he will wear a EVE t-shirt in the process.GÇ¥ Trading your character, being an EVE asset, follows the same logic.
Thanks Tippia that effectively drew a line on that one... however, opens up a can of worms in the other hand.
Gifting.
If I give my Paladin to a friend. That breaks no rule. If I give my friend 300,000,000 isk, it breaks no rules.
If the reason for the gift remains anonymous, then the gift remains a gift and no rules are broken I assume.
I give some guy a Moros.
the fact that he provided me a service in real life has no relevance to anyone other than him and myself, be it he washed my car, plumbed a shower, gave me a house. In that instance the paper trail ends with me giving some eve dude a 'Dread'.
In effect. yes RMT for real life currency or services appears in CCPs eyes as one and the same, be it for plex, marauder, or titan.
Is GIFTING therefore illegal? Or gifting with intent if it can be proved? |
![Yang Aurilen Yang Aurilen](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93621847/portrait?size=64)
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
258
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:58:00 -
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Grobalobobob Bob wrote:Tippia wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Since no money was involved...the "M" in RMT doesn't exist. Ipso facto, wtf are all these people going on about? The fact that RMT isn't limited to money but all forms of out-of-game goods and services. Or, to quote the old GM post, GÇ£The only out-of-game services that may be sold for ISK are directly EVE related web services, such as killboard hosting, ventrilo/teamspeak servers, corporation website hosting, and such. No, you may not get your mate to wash your car for ISK, even if he will wear a EVE t-shirt in the process.GÇ¥ Trading your character, being an EVE asset, follows the same logic. Thanks Tippia that effectively drew a line on that one... however, opens up a can of worms in the other hand. Gifting. If I give my Paladin to a friend. That breaks no rule. If I give my friend 300,000,000 isk, it breaks no rules. If the reason for the gift remains anonymous, then the gift remains a gift and no rules are broken I assume. I give some guy a Moros. the fact that he provided me a service in real life has no relevance to anyone other than him and myself, be it he washed my car, plumbed a shower, gave me a house. In that instance the paper trail ends with me giving some eve dude a 'Dread'. In effect. yes RMT for real life currency or services appears in CCPs eyes as one and the same, be it for plex, marauder, or titan. Is GIFTING therefore illegal? Or gifting with intent if it can be proved?
Unless you're actually paying the dude a moros to actually do your stuff yes. Unless I'm guessing "Hey here's some RL money and a bonus moros to go for doing stuff". |
![PotatoOverdose PotatoOverdose](https://images.evetech.net/characters/970416072/portrait?size=64)
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
1913
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:58:00 -
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Grobalobobob Bob wrote:Tippia wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Since no money was involved...the "M" in RMT doesn't exist. Ipso facto, wtf are all these people going on about? The fact that RMT isn't limited to money but all forms of out-of-game goods and services. Or, to quote the old GM post, GÇ£The only out-of-game services that may be sold for ISK are directly EVE related web services, such as killboard hosting, ventrilo/teamspeak servers, corporation website hosting, and such. No, you may not get your mate to wash your car for ISK, even if he will wear a EVE t-shirt in the process.GÇ¥ Trading your character, being an EVE asset, follows the same logic. Thanks Tippia that effectively drew a line on that one... however, opens up a can of worms in the other hand. Gifting. If I give my Paladin to a friend. That breaks no rule. If I give my friend 300,000,000 isk, it breaks no rules. If the reason for the gift remains anonymous, then the gift remains a gift and no rules are broken I assume. I give some guy a Moros. the fact that he provided me a service in real life has no relevance to anyone other than him and myself, be it he washed my car, plumbed a shower, gave me a house. In that instance the paper trail ends with me giving some eve dude a 'Dread'. In effect. yes RMT for real life currency or services appears in CCPs eyes as one and the same, be it for plex, marauder, or titan. Is GIFTING therefore illegal? Or gifting with intent if it can be proved? Just like in real life: "Mr. Police Officer this isn't a bribe, it's a gift from the bottom of my heart. Honest." Three guesses how well this works out.
Believe me, the idea isn't nearly as smart as you think it is, and you aren't being nearly as clever as you seem to think. Nor is it the first time anyone ever had such a brilliant idea, and yet for some reason it never works out. |
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![Grobalobobob Bob Grobalobobob Bob](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90488561/portrait?size=64)
Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:05:00 -
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No one is trying to be clever, I just want to know if i'm going to get banned if I chuck my paladin in the corp hanger in return for my real life friend, and corpie for buying dinner.
I'm simply trying to gauge where the line is. |
![Yarda Black Yarda Black](https://images.evetech.net/characters/878924228/portrait?size=64)
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
266
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:12:00 -
[32] - Quote
I'm not sure if its legal, RMT-ing or anything like that;
Lets say you give him your login credentials and change the creditcard billing your account to his card. |
![Cavalira Cavalira](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1895499686/portrait?size=64)
Cavalira
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
388
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:18:00 -
[33] - Quote
Everything in EVE is the property of CCP. They can ban whatever they feel like without consequences.
Makes you think when you've spent years farming for titan. |
![Anthar Thebess Anthar Thebess](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90919062/portrait?size=64)
Anthar Thebess
592
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:26:00 -
[34] - Quote
Well there are more of the RMT in this game than most of the people want to see. You can get banned for direct transfers of ISK/Plexes for real $. So many people found new way of laundering this operations.
They are selling or buying - Creating Corp web pages - Hosting web pages - Access to out of game tools - Corp Team Speaks - etc
In all of those cases someone offers something officially , without delivering it , or pseudo delivering it , and he gets for this ISK or Plex every month.
All $ is being traded out side of the game, and are not traceable. No one got banned , for selling or buying out of game "help" for in game isk.
You don't even have to be trading this from your alts , just call isk/plex contracts "for hosting corp/alliance web page"
Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption |
![E-2C Hawkeye E-2C Hawkeye](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92301709/portrait?size=64)
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
654
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:27:00 -
[35] - Quote
Chribba wrote:If it's technically RMT, what makes you think it's ok?
I think it would be the same as a female player trading her services for a Titan. ![Oops](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png) |
![Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 Caldari Citizen 1897289768188](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92301709/portrait?size=64)
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
State War Academy Caldari State
654
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:27:00 -
[36] - Quote
Chribba wrote:If it's technically RMT, what makes you think it's ok?
I think it would be the same as a female player trading her services for a Titan. ![Oops](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png) |
![HollyShocker 2inthestink HollyShocker 2inthestink](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92301709/portrait?size=64)
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
654
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:27:00 -
[37] - Quote
Chribba wrote:If it's technically RMT, what makes you think it's ok?
I think it would be the same as a female player trading her services for a Titan. ![Oops](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png) |
![Emma Muutaras Emma Muutaras](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92707100/portrait?size=64)
Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:33:00 -
[38] - Quote
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Chribba wrote:If it's technically RMT, what makes you think it's ok? I think it would be the same as a female player trading her services for a Titan. ![Oops](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png)
thats a bit sexist why cant a male trade his services for a Titan |
![Sibyyl Sibyyl](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94349012/portrait?size=64)
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
2802
|
Posted - 2014.07.16 13:37:00 -
[39] - Quote
Grobalobobob Bob wrote:So if I gave my 100m SP eve character to my plumber for installing a basin and taps, would that be against the EULA?
Technically it's RMT, yet, would CCP really ban the account because of a basin, pair of taps and some grouting?
...just curious... Not RMT but breaks the EULA.. since no account transfer without rendering 2 PLEX unto Caesar is allowed.
If your plumber friend swallows a mushroom and then eats a star, I'm not sure CCP would be able to do anything against him. .. when everything else is gone .. |
![Sibyyl Sibyyl](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94349012/portrait?size=64)
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
2802
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:38:00 -
[40] - Quote
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Chribba wrote:If it's technically RMT, what makes you think it's ok? I think it would be the same as a female player trading her services for a Titan. ![Oops](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png) You mean.. like making a sandwich? .. when everything else is gone .. |
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![Grobalobobob Bob Grobalobobob Bob](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90488561/portrait?size=64)
Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:47:00 -
[41] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Chribba wrote:If it's technically RMT, what makes you think it's ok? I think it would be the same as a female player trading her services for a Titan. ![Oops](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png) You mean.. like making a sandwich?
That's what it's called these days? ![Shocked](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
And there's the girl next door offering me a 'sandwich' and I said "no thanks, I'm not hungry".. what an idiot.. might go around later see if the offer is still there ![Twisted](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) |
![Mr Epeen Mr Epeen](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1382977102/portrait?size=64)
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5532
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Posted - 2014.07.16 15:34:00 -
[42] - Quote
dustonio wrote: With transferring ownership of a character without posting in the character bazaar AND no trace of isk transfer between the account, they have to assume RMT and thus ban the accounts in question.
Plenty of those in my history.
Moving my characters from one acct to another once they are trained to the level needed. No post. No ISK transfer.
They got their $20 and that's the bottom line really. Be a sad day when they shoot themselves in the foot by banning for that.
Mr Epeen ![Cool](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
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