i really cannot understand why in the age of

you only live once
keep it real
uniqueness
i do what i want
one of a kind tattoos
custom paint jobs for all sorts of machines
mine is bigger, better than yours and there it's the only one
single cask beers
one run vinyl albums
etc.

devs want everyone in eve to sit in a circle and circle jerk. sorry to break it to you devs but that is not where society is going. if nullbears are tired of circle jerking each other, have them change hands, swap stained sweaty seat cushions, change places in the circle, try doing it underwater, join the circle jerkers mile high club or stand up and get a conga line going. not everyone wants to be a nullbear bitc# running around having a master telling you what to do, when to do it, where to do it and abusing you on social media even if all their instructions were followed to the letter.

Hello, I must say that on the test server I could not appreciate the advantages of the new manufactory system but today, in really jobs I find it very useful, good.
When is to have multiple inventions?

There is abselutly nothing about this patch that is good... Those of you that think diferently ....Have abselutly no clue of what your talkin about...

It is really a shame that most of those who do industry are not commenting now - but most seem to be taking the attitude - "would of, should of, could of - spoken out before but CCP probably won't do anything now." I had one close in-game friend comment "but if I say anything now, I will only set myself up for attacks when I am in space from the Goons."

No....we long time industry pilots are here and have read and have commented but to no avail will this patch be reversed or fixed or even mildly discussed any further so I think it is time for me to let this game Die from my household.

Its been a great 6 years and lots of changes but this one has really rubbed me wrong in many ways.

And besides, what was "lost" was time to research something to a theoretical benefit (under the old system) which now has been converted into something that has actual benefit (and the top end benefit at that). I imagine for most if not all players, that so called "lost" time was not mutually exclusive to any other action thus nothing of any value was actually lost. Yet

RAGE

If This is the way of the Future of EVE ... We should have our BPO's "grand fathered " in to what they were before this all happened.
I thought that Once You can FLY Something then You Don't Lose That Ability to do so... It should be the same way with our Blue Prints that we have spent time and Real MONEY ... YES Money because I have spent money to make sure that I can Play EVE as well as for training , (skill books, ships)...
You need to correct this...

There is abselutly nothing about this patch that is good... Those of you that think diferently ....Have abselutly no clue of what your talkin about...

Teams is other bad idea, all the nullsec alliances will win them every time, so you will just see them most of them in nullsec.

SpacePhoenix -- I think I have to mildly disagree with your statement -- it would have been better written "there is absolutely nothing in this patch that is good if you are truly into various aspects of industry - but there are all kinds of advantages if you are a Goon!"

It is really a shame that most of those who do industry are not commenting now - but most seem to be taking the attitude - "would of, should of, could of - spoken out before but CCP probably won't do anything now." I had one close in-game friend comment "but if I say anything now, I will only set myself up for attacks when I am in space from the Goons."

the window for any potential grandfathering is long since passed and the change is now permanent

its kinda funny that the only activity supposed 'economic experts' were good at was selling hilariously over-researched bpcs

its kinda funny that the only activity supposed 'economic experts' were good at was selling hilariously over-researched bpcs

And your area of industrial expertise is???

Lemme guess....ganking defenseless haulers and miners?

its kinda funny that the only activity supposed 'economic experts' were good at was selling hilariously over-researched bpcs

You are so correct!!! The only people posting that are "supposed 'economic experts' " are those who "were good at was selling hilariously over-researched bpcs". Yeah RIIIGGGHHTTTT!!!!!!!

I have never (yet) researched a BP nor sold one. Have preferred to buy and use the "hilariously over-researched bpcs" because they were more economical both in terms of production time and more particularly in terms of materials. Both of which contribute to the cost of manufacture.

My major isk making is in trading - which I do rather well at. I have 21 units of graduate studies completed towards an MBA, I have owned my own business in the work-aday-world and I have 6 years experience in retail management -- so I probably know at least a "little" about economics and the market.

Now -- let's hear your credentials.

Don't mind "her", it's years I annoy them.

Ya know, openly talking against the baddies they are, except 2 of their economy leaders (Mynna and Aryth) who are REALLY REALLY good and probably without them GS would have been neutered years ago.
Wars are won with money and they are really good at finding ways to make it.

Too bad imo they are being used and squatter-ed by a lot of bloodsuckers who entertrain a nice life they would not be able to remotely afford if they had to participate and work hard to repay losses, ship replacement programs and so on.

Like any good socialist system, it lives nice and happy until taxpayers money is over. And can afford spewing propaganda 24/7.

You are so correct!!! The only people posting that are "supposed 'economic experts' " are those who "were good at was selling hilariously over-researched bpcs". Yeah RIIIGGGHHTTTT!!!!!!!

I have never (yet) researched a BP nor sold one. Have preferred to buy and use the "hilariously over-researched bpcs" because they were more economical both in terms of production time and more particularly in terms of materials. Both of which contribute to the cost of manufacture.

My major isk making is in trading - which I do rather well at. I have 21 units of graduate studies completed towards an MBA, I have owned my own business in the work-aday-world and I have 6 years experience in retail management -- so I probably know at least a "little" about economics and the market.

Now -- let's hear your credentials.

Don't mind "her", it's years I annoy them.

Ya know, openly talking against the baddies they are, except 2 of their economy leaders (Mynna and Aryth) who are REALLY REALLY good and probably without them GS would have been neutered years ago.
Wars are won with money and they are really good at finding ways to make it.

Too bad imo they are being used and squatter-ed by a lot of bloodsuckers who entertrain a nice life they would not be able to remotely afford if they had to participate and work hard to repay losses, ship replacement programs and so on.

Like any good socialist system, it lives nice and happy until taxpayers money is over. And can afford spewing propaganda 24/7.

I have 6 years experience in retail management

but the thing is we're here to help."i will have fries with that, thank you" as the preeminent economic group in eve