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Rena Emishi
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:26:00 -
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So for fun I have been mining in low sec and null sec in the new prospect ship. I can make more money afk mining in high sec.
Data and relic sites in low sec and null sec -- . Time to isk.. I can make more money afk mining in high sec. or running risk free level 4s in high sec.
CCP you game is a lie. Why are you forcing people to do mundane risk free activities by not offering huge rewards for taking risks. |
Paranoid Loyd
899
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:30:00 -
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So you have been "risking" your Prospect and a T1 frig and you are disappointed in the rewards?
Maybe you need to reevaluate what risk is. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
646
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:33:00 -
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Tell us moar |
Rena Emishi
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:33:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:So you have been "risking" your Prospect and a T1 frig and you are disappointed in the rewards?
Prospect is a T2 frig. as is the ship I use to scan and run data and relic sites. But regardless their is a real risk of losing my ships and a tiny risk of losing my implants. So yes im disappointed that I can make a lot more without any risk at all. |
Marsha Mallow
1326
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:35:00 -
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The Highsec Apolocalypse is imminent TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Raw Matters
NORDIC COMPANY Northern Associates.
44
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:35:00 -
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It is in fact a joke what you can pull out of null-sec data sites, average is about 8m. Considering that you risk your ship and implants each time you do one, this is hardly compensating. Relic sites are better with about 20-30m per site, but they are hard to find and often contested.
Compared to mission running in high-sec vs site running in null, scanning in high vs null is a tedious and unrewarding task. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4110
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:37:00 -
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It's true, for every 10 jumps through null-sec in a pod you will get 1 billion ISK. Tax free. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Rena Emishi
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:37:00 -
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Raw Matters wrote:It is in fact a joke what you can pull out of null-sec data sites, average is about 8m. Considering that you risk your ship and implants each time you do one, this is hardly compensating. Relic sites are better with about 20-30m per site, but they are hard to find and often contested.
Compared to mission running in high-sec vs site running in null, scanning in high vs null is a tedious and unrewarding task.
Granted I have only been to drone space null secs to run data and relic sites... But id be fairly happy with 20-30m per site. I was getting about 4-6mill max. I was left scratching my head thinking I could have brought a ratting ship and made just as much quickly jumpin around the belts. |
Paranoid Loyd
899
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:39:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:Raw Matters wrote:It is in fact a joke what you can pull out of null-sec data sites, average is about 8m. Considering that you risk your ship and implants each time you do one, this is hardly compensating. Relic sites are better with about 20-30m per site, but they are hard to find and often contested.
Compared to mission running in high-sec vs site running in null, scanning in high vs null is a tedious and unrewarding task. Granted I have only been to drone space null secs to run data and relic sites... But id be fairly happy with 20-30m per site. I was getting about 4-6mill max. I was left scratching my head thinking I could have brought a ratting ship and made just as much quickly jumpin around the belts.
Drone regions
You're carrying a cargo scanner so you don't waste time at sites that have already had the good stuff cherry picked right? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
271
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:40:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:
CCP you game is a lie. Why are you forcing people to do mundane risk free activities by not offering huge rewards for taking risks.
The reward in low and null is the adrineline rush you get when a dude warps in and tries to kill you. |
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Rena Emishi
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:42:00 -
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But really what roll does this prospect ship fulfil ? their is not situation you can make more money with a prospect. I could strap some mining lazor 1s to a destroyer and make more money in high sec for a fraction of the cost with zero risk of loss. I just don't understand. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:46:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:Rena Emishi wrote:
CCP you game is a lie. Why are you forcing people to do mundane risk free activities by not offering huge rewards for taking risks.
The reward in low and null is the adrineline rush you get when a dude warps in and tries to kill you. I think you have it backwards. The reward is being the dude doing the warp in to blow up the fool that thinks running sites in low/null is worth the risk.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Rena Emishi
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:47:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:Rena Emishi wrote:
CCP you game is a lie. Why are you forcing people to do mundane risk free activities by not offering huge rewards for taking risks.
The reward in low and null is the adrineline rush you get when a dude warps in and tries to kill you.
I get that I really do. Its why im still gonna do it I love being on edge watching local and using my d scan. But for the reward not to match the risk is fail on ccps end. Risk should equal reward. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1008
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:48:00 -
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"I risked cheapest class of ship in game, and made less when i mined in stronger more appropriate ship in highsec."
how about you actually understand risk before you complain. Use a barge, that is risk. Go in deep NPC space with an exhumer. THAT is serious risk. |
Rena Emishi
The Scope Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:53:00 -
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Rowells wrote:"I risked cheapest class of ship in game, and made less when i mined in stronger more appropriate ship in highsec."
how about you actually understand risk before you complain. Use a barge, that is risk. Go in deep NPC space with an exhumer. THAT is serious risk.
O shut up troll.. fine take more appropriate ship out of the equation. I can make more isk per hour mining in a venture two jumps out from jita with little to no risk. Than I can using a venture in low sec mining with massive risk and a ton of logistical problems hauling my goods to a trade hub.
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Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:53:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:But really what roll does this prospect ship fulfil ? their is not situation you can make more money with a prospect. I could strap some mining lazor 1s to a destroyer and make more money in high sec for a fraction of the cost with zero risk of loss. I just don't understand.
I'm still learning the whole mining thing, but with a maxed out mining ship and refining skills, plus being able to mine Mercoxit with the prospect is that worth the time? I think I read mercoxit comes from deep core mining Arkonor, as I haven't ever seen morphite yet anywhere. Anyway, mainly I am asking is it still not worth it when you mine mercoxit? |
Paranoid Loyd
899
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:55:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:Rowells wrote:"I risked cheapest class of ship in game, and made less when i mined in stronger more appropriate ship in highsec."
how about you actually understand risk before you complain. Use a barge, that is risk. Go in deep NPC space with an exhumer. THAT is serious risk. O shut up troll.. fine take more appropriate ship out of the equation. I can make more isk per hour mining in a venture two jumps out from jita with little to no risk. Than I can using a venture in low sec mining with massive risk and a ton of logistical problems hauling my goods to a trade hub.
What is this massive risk you are perceiving? A 20mil isk frigate? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:56:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote: Risk should equal reward. It does. Go mine with your venture in highsec and then compare the isk/h to mining with the same ship in null.
EDIT: Why are we talking about mining anyway? Go do something fun instead! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
2193
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:56:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:But really what roll does this prospect ship fulfil ? their is not situation you can make more money with a prospect. It's probably most useful in wormholes.
Somewhat useful in nullsec, but only if you really target your mining to pick up ores that aren't so abundant in highsec.
PS. Dinsdale will be very disappointed about this thread. Bonus points to the OP for that. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Rena Emishi
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:05:00 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:Rena Emishi wrote: Risk should equal reward. It does. Go mine with your venture in highsec and then compare the isk/h to mining with the same ship in null. EDIT: Why are we talking about mining anyway? Go do something fun instead!
Im finding mining in low sec fun.. I'm just pissed off that their is no money to be made. And that im shooting my wallet in the face for not going afk mining in high sec. |
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3272
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:10:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Rena Emishi wrote:But really what roll does this prospect ship fulfil ? their is not situation you can make more money with a prospect. It's probably most useful in wormholes. Somewhat useful in nullsec, but only if you really target your mining to pick up ores that aren't so abundant in highsec. PS. Dinsdale will be very disappointed about this thread. Bonus points to the OP for that.
Not sure what I am to be disappointed about. Just thread started by another null sec propagandist about how awful the ISK is in null, and how high sec should be nerfed out of existence. (BTW , OP, how about testing out that ISK return in an AKFtar in Gurista space held by the Blue Blanket?)
Actually, I expect that the "overhaul high sec missions" campaign to start fairly soon, now that null sec has successfully wrecked high sec industry. The only even reasonably profitable things left in high sec are Incursions and missions, so you know the cartels will be gunning to get them wrecked as well.
So I expect many more of these threads in the future, all that will be allowed to stay open as opposed to be being closed for redundancy, or a rant. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
2193
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:15:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Not sure what I am to be disappointed about. Just about the truth of what the OP wrote, with exception of the last sentence about being forced to play in highsec because of the comparatively poor rewards of nullsec in relation to exploration and mining. It's always a choice. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19666
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:15:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote: I could strap some mining lazor 1s to a destroyer and make more money in high sec for a fraction of the cost with zero risk of loss. I just don't understand. No you could not, destroyers don't have the cargo space to make it even likely, you'd spend 80% of your time running back and forth to a station. On top of that they lack the CPU to fit more than 3 mining lasers (4 if you use CPU mods) whereas both the Venture and Prospect have stats that turn their 2 mining lasers into 4 or more and a substantial orebay to boot.
If you want to make money in your Prospect I suggest trying Gas mining.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Rena Emishi
The Scope Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:18:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Rena Emishi wrote:But really what roll does this prospect ship fulfil ? their is not situation you can make more money with a prospect. It's probably most useful in wormholes. Somewhat useful in nullsec, but only if you really target your mining to pick up ores that aren't so abundant in highsec. PS. Dinsdale will be very disappointed about this thread. Bonus points to the OP for that. Not sure what I am to be disappointed about. Just thread started by another null sec propagandist about how awful the ISK is in null, and how high sec should be nerfed out of existence. (BTW , OP, how about testing out that ISK return in an AKFtar in Gurista space held by the Blue Blanket?) Actually, I expect that the "overhaul high sec missions" campaign to start fairly soon, now that null sec has successfully wrecked high sec industry. The only even reasonably profitable things left in high sec are Incursions and missions, so you know the cartels will be gunning to get them wrecked as well. So I expect many more of these threads in the future, all that will be allowed to stay open as opposed to be being closed for redundancy, or a rant.
Actually no, I'm not a null sec propagandist. I think null sec can be safer than high sec at times if your part of a big power alliance etc though that safety is bought with hard work of a lot of players and they should be rewarded with more isk than highsecers.
I'm talking about small gang or solo high risk low sec / null sec activates. That's where this game needs to be made more profitable to pull people out of high sec. |
Paranoid Loyd
899
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:21:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:I'm talking about small gang or solo high risk low sec / null sec activates. That's where this game needs to be made more profitable to pull people out of high sec.
How do you propose this is done without giving an even bigger advantage to the large alliances and thus nullifying any changes in the first place?
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3335
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:23:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:So for fun I have been mining in low sec and null sec in the new prospect ship. I can make more money afk mining in high sec.
Data and relic sites in low sec and null sec -- . Time to isk.. I can make more money afk mining in high sec. or running risk free level 4s in high sec.
CCP you game is a lie. Why are you forcing people to do mundane risk free activities by not offering huge rewards for taking risks.
isboxer
Oh god. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1464
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:23:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:But really what roll does this prospect ship fulfil ? their is not situation you can make more money with a prospect. I could strap some mining lazor 1s to a destroyer and make more money in high sec for a fraction of the cost with zero risk of loss. I just don't understand. Maybe it's not about making the most money?
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3335
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:25:00 -
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also ban alts Oh god. |
Rena Emishi
The Scope Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:25:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Rena Emishi wrote:I'm talking about small gang or solo high risk low sec / null sec activates. That's where this game needs to be made more profitable to pull people out of high sec. How do you propose this is done without giving an even bigger advantage to the large alliances and thus nullifying any changes in the first place?
Give alliances more of a advantage if needs be... Wouldn't bother me at all. Large alliances compete with other alliances.. who would get the same advantage.
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Paranoid Loyd
899
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:28:00 -
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Rena Emishi wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Rena Emishi wrote:I'm talking about small gang or solo high risk low sec / null sec activates. That's where this game needs to be made more profitable to pull people out of high sec. How do you propose this is done without giving an even bigger advantage to the large alliances and thus nullifying any changes in the first place? Give alliances more of a advantage if needs be... Wouldn't bother me at all. Large alliances compete with other alliances.. who would get the same advantage.
Are you familiar with the economic term "inflation"? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
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