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Gorinia Sanford
Big n Large
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:06:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:LazyDeer wrote: is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots? It's called "bot aspirancy".
Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition. |

Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
313
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:10:00 -
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Gorinia Sanford wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:LazyDeer wrote: is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots? It's called "bot aspirancy". Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition.
The definition is not nebulous, the subject it covers is broad. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6240
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:18:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:Gorinia Sanford wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: It's called "bot aspirancy".
Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition. The definition is not nebulous, the subject it covers is broad. Heh, not bad. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8053
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Posted - 2014.07.21 08:24:00 -
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Gorinia Sanford wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:LazyDeer wrote: is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots? It's called "bot aspirancy". Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition.
Far from it, if you take the time to consider it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1502
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:27:00 -
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OP, he wasn't hating you, just trying to make fun of you.
Everybody knows (or should know) that autopiloting in highsec can get you killed, depending on what you're flying and what you're carrying.
So players tend to equate autopiloting = clueless player.
In your case, since you just lost an empty shuttle and provided your pod was empty-ish too, you certainly didn't make a derpy mistake like this one.
So the guy was just generalizing. If you ask me, smack-talking (or smack-mailing) after losing a thrasher to an empty shuttle is pretty silly. Come to think of it, maybe he was a bit butthurt himself. EVE Online: Death-o-meter |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
554
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:18:00 -
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OP just fell for the bait and gave the pro-ganker some special Forum-Tears! Dude lost a shuttle... shuttles are dirt cheap. I wonder which kind of thread we would have got if he might lost, god forbid, a frigate or a dessy! "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1437
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:49:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?
Peopel do not hate autopiloting. Just autopiloting ships stay much more time available tof scanning and ganking.
If you autopilot in a shuttle, you probably will never be ganked in high sec. Same for an interceptor. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1437
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:51:00 -
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Jacob Holland wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:LazyDeer wrote:So why not kill my pod then? With what? His pod? He lost his ship when he bravely fought your shuttle. Mr Epeen  The Thrasher can be fit for fast lock and will one-volley a shuttle. It is therefore more than possible to pop the pod as well before CONCORD arrives on scene. There are pilots who pipe-stalk between Incursion focuses with the express intent of popping high value pods. Not that I used to treat shuttles as abalative armour for my pod in that manner... and now use a Jag.
A good reason why my alts travel in maledictions with 6K Ehp. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Gor Yo
State War Academy Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2014.07.21 12:35:00 -
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I dont think gankers HATE auto-piloters. it is a game feature after all. it is just that auto-piloters make extremely easy gank targets, but since most gankers are lowlife scum with no sense of selfworth, they come up with excuses why they gank autopiloters to make them feel better about themselves. ridding EVE of bots blah blah blah. go scout out mining belts and take out isboxers. sure CCP condones it because each box is one more PLEX, but most other mmorgs ban for such activities. |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
493
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Posted - 2014.07.21 12:52:00 -
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Gor Yo wrote:I dont think gankers HATE auto-piloters. it is a game feature after all. it is just that auto-piloters make extremely easy gank targets, but since most gankers are lowlife scum with no sense of selfworth, they come up with excuses why they gank autopiloters to make them feel better about themselves. ridding EVE of bots blah blah blah. go scout out mining belts and take out isboxers. sure CCP condones it because each box is one more PLEX, but most other mmorgs ban for such activities. Your bias is showing. Calm down, and find some powder for that case of red ass. |

Organic Lager
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
75
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:13:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Gorinia Sanford wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:LazyDeer wrote: is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots? It's called "bot aspirancy". Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition. Far from it, if you take the time to consider it.
I would hardly consider allowing a bot to do the work of a bot should be "bot aspirancy", if anything manually jumping 20 systems is bot aspirant. For the most part if someone is moving systems in a shuttle it's because someone(s) asked them too, which more often then not is for some none bot like content.
Anyone using auto to transport any items of value (including your pod) is taking unnecessary risks and fully deserve anything they have coming. |

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
155
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:30:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Here's an idea... AP turns off if scrambled. Another hobby for griefers to just aggro and scram AP freighters to make them stop... A genius idea if I ever heard one. Warp scramblers disable your MWD so you have to wait to reactivate them until you're not scrammed, why not the same with the autopilot? Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |

Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
360
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:33:00 -
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I don't care about ISK when I gank.
It autopilots in something poppable, so it deserves to be ganked.
All the rationale behind it doesn't even need further explanation.
(I was there before CODE even existed, so don't think of starting with this crap) http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8053
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:40:00 -
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Organic Lager wrote: I would hardly consider allowing a bot to do the work of a bot should be "bot aspirancy", if anything manually jumping 20 systems is bot aspirant.
Um, what?
I think you might have missed the whole concept. Because manually jumping 20 systems is absolutely not bot aspirancy. I honestly don't know where you got that from. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |

Sarah Flynt
Federation Interstellar Resources
48
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:43:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around 1. Don't mistake a few loudmouths on the forum with 'the community'. Certain people also post with several alts to give the impression that a certain general opinion exists.
2. Don't mistake the relatively few people that post here with the playerbase. Only a tiny fraction posts on the forum and doesn't represent the opinion of the the whole playerbase. |

Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
136
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:44:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:See I have no problem with dieing because I auto piloted. None doesn't hurt me at all, just so confused as to why I'm the bad one due to auto piloting and is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?
People have always hated other people that claim to play a game yet they use the auto features. If you are using the auto features on 1 toon because you are too busy with other toons then you are not playing that toon so in essence your not playing the game using up valuable server resources that an actual player could use.
If you need to go pee then dock up or safe up and cloak. If your too lazy to warp to 0 and jump 32 times then dock up and close the client.
Now you know the answer. |

Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
361
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:45:00 -
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Sarah Flynt wrote:LazyDeer wrote:but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around 1. Don't mistake a few loudmouths on the forum with 'the community'. Certain people also post with several alts to give the impression that a certain general opinion exists. 2. Don't mistake the relatively few people that post here with the playerbase. Only a tiny fraction posts on the forum and doesn't represent the opinion of the the whole playerbase. While this is true, a considerably large part of the whole community agrees that walking through the bronx in an armani suit, with a golden rolex and a shiny suitcase ... will get you killed. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |

Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
285
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:50:00 -
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No one is against it. It makes for easy targets. I encourage more players to autopilot/AFK, padding a killboard is easier when people aren't even at their computers.
Hate is such a strong word. And implies that the autopiloting/AFK pilot matters whatsoever. They do not.
We simply blow them up and move on to the next target. We don't waste time on any emotion for people not actually playing the game. They hold no more interest for us than NPC rats- shoot em and loot em, and two minutes later we're on to the next target.
So rest easy, no one hates you- we don't even think about you when pulling the trigger. |

Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
99
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:56:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of?
omg man up and stop the flood of tears, you are reading way to much drama into this, you got killed, deal. |

Organic Lager
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
75
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Posted - 2014.07.21 13:57:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Organic Lager wrote: I would hardly consider allowing a bot to do the work of a bot should be "bot aspirancy", if anything manually jumping 20 systems is bot aspirant.
Um, what? I think you might have missed the whole concept. Because manually jumping 20 systems is absolutely not bot aspirancy. I honestly don't know where you got that from.
You don't go 100% tunnel vision when jumping gates? Given how impossible it is to catch a shuttle warping to 0 in high sec and how the destination is all that is of concern. If you actually pay attention to the universe around you, well, you are a far better pilot then me. |

RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
392
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:00:00 -
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Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:
Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.
Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind. So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter. |

Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
368
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:02:00 -
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Organic Lager wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Organic Lager wrote: I would hardly consider allowing a bot to do the work of a bot should be "bot aspirancy", if anything manually jumping 20 systems is bot aspirant.
Um, what? I think you might have missed the whole concept. Because manually jumping 20 systems is absolutely not bot aspirancy. I honestly don't know where you got that from. You don't go 100% tunnel vision when jumping gates? Given how impossible it is to catch a shuttle warping to 0 in high sec and how the destination is all that is of concern. If you actually pay attention to the universe around you, well, you are a far better pilot then me. Nope, no tunnel vision here. Do you play zoomed in? http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |

Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
368
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:04:00 -
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RoAnnon wrote:Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:
Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.
Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind. Always fun to see how simple minded people reduce everything to two possibilities, because actual reality is too hard for them to grasp. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |

RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
392
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:06:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:RoAnnon wrote:Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:
Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.
Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind. Always fun to see how simple minded people reduce everything to two possibilities, because actual reality is too hard for them to grasp.
There're always exceptions. Thanks for calling me simple minded. So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter. |

Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3990
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:06:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:RoAnnon wrote:Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:
Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.
Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind. Always fun to see how simple minded people reduce everything to two possibilities, because actual reality is too hard for them to grasp.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who think in false dichotomies, and penguins. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
370
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:08:00 -
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RoAnnon wrote:Christina Project wrote:RoAnnon wrote:Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:
Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.
Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind. Always fun to see how simple minded people reduce everything to two possibilities, because actual reality is too hard for them to grasp. There're always exceptions. Thanks for calling me simple minded. You're welcome. I wouldn't call you that, if you wouldn't put it up for display. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3836
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:20:00 -
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People may say that they hate autopilot and such, but 9 times out of 10 that's just being said as a kind of ingame excuse, or to purposely wind people up for fun. CODE have their whole ideology built around the same sort of thing.
What it boils down to though is that people like to blow stuff up that belongs to others, that's what the game is about. By choosing to autopilot you make yourself an easier target and so more likely get blown up. It's a risk you need to factor in when autopiloting. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Careby
196
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:51:00 -
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Why do players hate others for Auto piloting?
Because it takes me a few seconds to focus my hatred, and by that time everyone who isn't auto-piloting is gone.
Sarcasm is OP |

De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2607
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:57:00 -
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One of my alts got popped in an empty shuttle and podded whilst merrily AFKing though Udaema yesterday. Imagine my delight when I came back from the bathroom to discover the journey back to my home system was already done and I could go on about my business.
I sent the expediter of my travel plans a warm thank you and a couple million for a new thrasher. MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |

Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
211
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:58:00 -
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LazyDeer wrote:So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of?
Maybe he ****** up and got squashed by CONCORD before he got your pod? It could happen.
But let this be a lesson for you: Only autopilot when you can afford the loss of both ship and pod. And if you just want to travel somewhere and don't want to use a jump clone, change to a medical facility close to your target.
This way, if you get shot while autopiloting, your ganker actually helped you out.  |
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