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KATAL MATU
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2014.07.21 22:43:00 -
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Then ill reference something different. What would happen if a sea vessel were to pass a known pirate coast while on autopilot? Minimal crew on the bridge, majority are below deck and asleep. Same situation goes back ages. Traveling through known hostile enviroments is a recipe for disaster. Same applies in game. There are hostile systems. Generally 0.5. 0.6 too. |
Hiyora Akachi
Yulai Guard
Yulai Federation
209
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:00:00 -
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People tell others AP is ****, so that they don't come to the forums to complain about how they died while doing it and how HS should be completely safe and CODE/Goons/Gankers are all neckbearded nerds who'll die permavirgins.
Abloobloobloo |
Finnish Hymn
Spartan Industries
3
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:00:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Finnish Hymn wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Tippia wrote:LazyDeer wrote:I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around? Where in any of that was hate against autopiloting expressed? It rather sounds like you're projecting a fair amount here. No-one hates others for autopiloting. At most, some get annoyed when people who get killed while autopiloting come to the forum and complain and start demanding that their non-playing be made more safe. You mean like afk cloakling? That type of non-playing?? Always amazing how people can and will justify their hypocricy when it benefits them. Get use to it OP you will see it alot. I do not see anyone complaining about AFK cloaking, it's part of the game and a good reason to fleet up so you can fight if need be. When AFK cloakers camp the system I play in, I just get a cheap ship I don't mind losing and keep going, 99.9% of the time the afk cloaker is a bluff that couldn't even cyno-drop you if they wanted to. LMAO...first time reading the forums? Its not about the counter its all about the type of game play. People want to begrudge auto piloting yet condone the same play type for afk-cloaking.
Who are you talking about? You are the one bringing up AFK cloaking. Both have draw backs and players should accept the draw backs. AFK flying makes you defenseless but if you are ok with that that is fine. AFK cloaking means you can't do anything until you decloak.
You must live in 0.0 and are mad just because someone cloak in your system. There are other systems. |
Gorinia Sanford
Big n Large
65
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:23:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:Gorinia Sanford wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:LazyDeer wrote: is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots? It's called "bot aspirancy". Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition. The definition is not nebulous, the subject it covers is broad.
And nebulous. |
Hal Morsh
404 Ship Not Found
Violent Declaration
120
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:26:00 -
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I don't think it's hate. It's more just an opportunity to blow someone up who you KNOW probably isn't paying much attention.
That and the whole buy a permit thing.
I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
Silent Requiem
61
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:31:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:I think it's simple. Autopiloting provides:
1. A long period of time where your ship is slowboating from a warp-in point to a gate
2. At the same time, the player is likely not completely attentive
1 and 2 provide a circumstance where massive damage can be dealt uncontested in a short amount of time.
Now, can you tell me why this is relevant for hisec?
That's how, not why.
Although because you can is the prevailing reason for doing anything in eve. |
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
142
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:57:00 -
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Some of just believe that people playing Eve that aren't actually playing Eve don't really need to be undocked.
It's a philosophy.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3999
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Posted - 2014.07.22 00:11:00 -
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It's kinda funny how autopilot works. Learn the game, and your routes, the active timezones and the less active ones along your routes, and you can autopilot all the way into a trade hub like I just did on my alt while I was making some breakfast. But like any other aspect of EVE, learning when and where you can and can't do it is imperative before you try.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
People complain about how 'empty' space is. Personally, I would be complaining if it were more 'full'.
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Zaxix
Long Jump.
399
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Posted - 2014.07.22 00:48:00 -
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Anyone who claims that they never use autopilot is a ******* liar.
Bokononist
-á |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
8067
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Posted - 2014.07.22 01:21:00 -
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Zaxix wrote:Anyone who claims that they never use autopilot is a ******* liar.
I manual. Every jump. And I check local too.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1184
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Posted - 2014.07.22 02:58:00 -
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Zaxix wrote:Anyone who claims that they never use autopilot is a ******* liar.
If I use autopilot the faction police will kill me, so no, I never use autopilot, and no, I'm not a liar.
My lord. |
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
144
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:20:00 -
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Sometimes I let an fc auto-pilot me around.
I still have to mash the undock thingy and jump gates manually so it's almost not worth the effort tbh.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
1372
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:43:00 -
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Gorinia Sanford wrote:Super spikinator wrote:Gorinia Sanford wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:LazyDeer wrote: is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots? It's called "bot aspirancy". Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition. The definition is not nebulous, the subject it covers is broad. And nebulous.
We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty 
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
8069
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:46:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty
Generally speaking, of course.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy
Caldari State
655
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Posted - 2014.07.22 13:18:00 -
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Just like people should accept those that wish to auto pilot. No difference in play style. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy
Caldari State
655
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Posted - 2014.07.22 13:29:00 -
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Finnish Hymn wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:[quote=Tippia][quote=LazyDeer]I I do not see anyone complaining about AFK cloaking, it's part of the game and a good reason to fleet up so you can fight if need be. When AFK cloakers camp the system I play in, I just get a cheap ship I don't mind losing and keep going, 99.9% of the time the afk cloaker is a bluff that couldn't even cyno-drop you if they wanted to.
You must be new or have poor reading comp skills. The subject of afk play style was assosiated with auto pilot, which I assosiated with afk cloaking or afk minning. Each play style are afk play styles which people want to have a problem with one but not the other because they do one and not the other. |
Skeln Thargensen
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
575
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Posted - 2014.07.22 13:58:00 -
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as far as i can tell it's to make highsec as awful and hellish as imaginable. this manifests itself as a need to right-click and select 'jump' shortly after I hear the thingy go woosh.
it puts me right off my netflix.
No longer a drifting spacebum |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
3420
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Posted - 2014.07.22 14:02:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Finnish Hymn wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:[quote=Tippia][quote=LazyDeer]I I do not see anyone complaining about AFK cloaking, it's part of the game and a good reason to fleet up so you can fight if need be. When AFK cloakers camp the system I play in, I just get a cheap ship I don't mind losing and keep going, 99.9% of the time the afk cloaker is a bluff that couldn't even cyno-drop you if they wanted to. You must be new or have poor reading comp skills. The subject of afk play style was assosiated with auto pilot, which I assosiated with afk cloaking or afk minning. Each play style are afk play styles which people want to have a problem with one but not the other because they do one and not the other.
It's not a playstyle. There are no afk playtsyles.
When you are afk, you are not playing.
If this doesn't strike you as obvious,
imagine how you don't sit in front of your PC.
Next people will come up with is how they watched a movie afk,
while actually being in the kitchen ... not seeing it.
http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Sniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1187
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Posted - 2014.07.22 14:27:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Next people will come up with is how they watched a movie afk,
while actually being in the kitchen ... not seeing it.
I love this analogy.
My lord. |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
3423
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Posted - 2014.07.22 14:36:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Next people will come up with is how they watched a movie afk,
while actually being in the kitchen ... not seeing it. I love this analogy.
Thanks. :)
mew :3
http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Sniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23232
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Posted - 2014.07.22 14:53:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:You mean like afk cloakling? That type of non-playing?? No. Also, AFK cloakers don't come to the forum to complain and demand that they be made more safe, so you seem to have misunderstood 100% of the argument, as always.
Quote:Always amazing how people can and will justify their hypocricy when it benefits them. What hypocrisy, and how does it benefit me?
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Just like people should accept those that wish to auto pilot. No difference in play style.
Good news: no-one isn't accepting them.
Zaxix wrote:Anyone who claims that they never use autopilot is a ******* liar.
I never use autopilot. I use auto-dock at times, though, because anything else is pretty foolish.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
573
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Posted - 2014.07.22 15:07:00 -
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Zaxix wrote:Anyone who claims that they never use autopilot is a ******* liar.
I don't. I used to when I was new and had more to READ about Eve online than I had to do actually PLAYING it, until it cost me a set of implants, and now I do my reading while cloaked. 
Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help. |
Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.07.22 15:13:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Next people will come up with is how they watched a movie afk,
while actually being in the kitchen ... not seeing it.
I have done that. I have also had a movie playing on my laptop (closed) in the car and listened to it while on long trips.
"EvE, where any playstyle is OK, as long as it conforms to CODE scamming"
People target AFK-ers and high sec miners because it is the easiest way to claim they 'PvP' without actually taking any risk. It is another form of carebear. |
Akashi Suenobu
Raven's Flight
Reconstructed Criticism
2
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Posted - 2014.07.22 15:33:00 -
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I have killed my share of autopiloters. I really don't care about the mechanic or have any CODE-like problem with autopilot as a mechanic. In fact, if you are in a shuttle with no PLEX in the hold and are willing to lose your implants, go ahead and autopilot. I just think it's really dumb when people autopilot in 100m+ pods (especially when they do it without a shuttle or anything around the pod).
Don't get me wrong. I really like it when you do auto an expensive pod for me to shoost. But I will think you are dumb afterwards. |
Akashi Suenobu
Raven's Flight
Reconstructed Criticism
2
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Posted - 2014.07.22 15:35:00 -
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Petre en Thielles wrote:
People target AFK-ers and high sec miners because it is the easiest way to claim they 'PvP' without actually taking any risk. It is another form of carebear.
You sound kinda butthurt about it. Not that it's going to stop me. But, don't call it carebearing. Call it, like, idk, PvPvE? Like, I'm against you kinda but mostly against CONCORD and the gate guns? |
Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.07.22 15:42:00 -
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Akashi Suenobu wrote:Petre en Thielles wrote:
People target AFK-ers and high sec miners because it is the easiest way to claim they 'PvP' without actually taking any risk. It is another form of carebear.
You sound kinda butthurt about it. Not that it's going to stop me. But, don't call it carebearing. Call it, like, idk, PvPvE? Like, I'm against you kinda but mostly against CONCORD and the gate guns?
I have lived in null/w-space since I was about month into the game. At the end of the day, do whatever you want in high sec, I am there maybe twice/month to make a trade run.
It is definitely carebearing though. It is a bit of PvP with next to no risk. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
1372
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Posted - 2014.07.22 16:46:00 -
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Petre en Thielles wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Next people will come up with is how they watched a movie afk,
while actually being in the kitchen ... not seeing it. I have done that. I have also had a movie playing on my laptop (closed) in the car and listened to it while on long trips. "EvE, where any playstyle is OK, as long as it conforms to CODE scamming" People target AFK-ers and high sec miners because it is the easiest way to claim they 'PvP' without actually taking any risk. It is another form of carebear.
to be fair to them ... it's not carebearing
it is however an extremely low risk activity
lower risk than mining or afk'ing. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
1449
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Posted - 2014.07.22 16:50:00 -
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People feel hatred over others using autopilot? Man, we have some messed up Eve players if that's true.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
693
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Posted - 2014.07.22 17:04:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Here's an idea... AP turns off if scrambled. Another hobby for griefers to just aggro and scram AP freighters to make them stop...
This really should be added. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy
Caldari State
656
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Posted - 2014.07.22 17:36:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:[quote=Finnish Hymn][quote=E-2C Hawkeye][quote=Tippia]
You must be new or have poor reading comp skills. The subject of afk play style was assosiated with auto pilot, which I assosiated with afk cloaking or afk minning. Each play style are afk play styles which people want to have a problem with one but not the other because they do one and not the other. It's not a playstyle. There are no afk playtsyles. When you are afk, you are not playing. If this doesn't strike you as obvious, imagine how you don't sit in front of your PC. Next people will come up with is how they watched a movie afk, while actually being in the kitchen ... not seeing it.
It's NOT a play style? ...WUT?? Are you in fact disagreeing with tippia? I hope not for your sake |
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