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Peter Raptor Galactic Hawks 676	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:21:00 - [1] - Quote Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! ::: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve! http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif Oh and have a great day Evelopedia;-á The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á
Hiply Rustic Aliastra Gallente Federation 58	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:23:00 - [2] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! ::: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve! http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif Oh and have a great day Are you implying that I should have refined the ore I have last night? Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." *EvE: Only the stong-willied need apply.*
Peter Raptor Galactic Hawks 676	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:24:00 - [3] - Quote I'm glad I refined most of mine anyway :P Evelopedia;-á The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á
Prince Sanguine 143	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:26:00 - [4] - Quote Can I have your assets? Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me.
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders 1542	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:27:00 - [5] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: whats the point of chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game? EVE Online: Death-o-meter
Solecist Project Mew Age Outpaws 3438	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:28:00 - [6] - Quote This guy is a known troll. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Sniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively.
GreenSeed 1066	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:30:00 - [7] - Quote "All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes" first friggin line on the patchnotes...
Hadrian Blackstone Yamato Holdings 67	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:30:00 - [8] - Quote Thumbs up for gifs
Rowells Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans 1024	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:31:00 - [9] - Quote Probably because it's a highsec station
Hiply Rustic Aliastra Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:44:00 - [10] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: This guy is a known troll. I think the unknown trolls are so much more effective, don't you? Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." *EvE: Only the stong-willied need apply.*
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 3937	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:46:00 - [11] - Quote GreenSeed wrote: "All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes" first friggin line on the patchnotes... Reading is hard. Trolling is easy.
ashley Eoner 330	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:50:00 - [12] - Quote Having perfect refining skills and such I've noticed an increase in yield.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3137	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:52:00 - [13] - Quote Hiply Rustic wrote: Solecist Project wrote: This guy is a known troll. I think the unknown trolls are so much more effective, don't you? I think the best trolls are the ones who are helpful and informative most of the time. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6247	Posted - 2014.07.22 22:54:00 - [14] - Quote Refining all the things... ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears. Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 15590	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:01:00 - [15] - Quote Wrecking Blow Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything Produced by Unsuccessful ProductionsGäó Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus We'll whine, we'll cry our hearts out guys, Crius launched, now we question why, We failed to read the Dev Blogs threads, A whine, heard throughout all time. Why don't CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry and ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now ruined my game... Yeah, you, you ruined my game. Now PLEX is so high, I question why CCP, why don't you control the price? Ill gnash my teeth, cry myself to sleep, Highsec, it used to be so nice. Why wont CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry now ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. My entitlement now overflows.. Yeah, we deserved better than this.. Im left now with 10 accounts.. Im unsubbing now forthwith.. Yeah, CCP wrecked my game. I never meant to cry so much I just ooze entitlement.. And instead of using words.. I guess I should unsub to win.. I never meant to cry so much I just wanted easy ISK.. Why cant you just let highsec win? Don't you ever say I wont walk away.. Ill unsub and show you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. We deserve our easy ISK.. CCP now ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 2392	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:02:00 - [16] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: lottery winners gonna be playing Eve! Yes, I made my ISK on Eve-Bet. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif =ƒÿü
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 742	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:07:00 - [17] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Wrecking Blow Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything Produced by Unsuccessful ProductionsGäó Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus We'll whine, we'll cry our hearts out guys, Crius launched, now we question why, We failed to read the Dev Blogs threads, A whine, heard throughout all time. Why don't CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry and ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now ruined my game... Yeah, you, you ruined my game. Now PLEX is so high, I question why CCP, why don't you control the price? Ill gnash my teeth, cry myself to sleep, Highsec, it used to be so nice. Why wont CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry now ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. My entitlement now overflows.. Yeah, we deserved better than this.. Im left now with 10 accounts.. Im unsubbing now forthwith.. Yeah, CCP wrecked my game. I never meant to cry so much I just ooze entitlement.. And instead of using words.. I guess I should unsub to win.. I never meant to cry so much I just wanted easy ISK.. Why cant you just let highsec win? Don't you ever say I wont walk away.. Ill unsub and show you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. We deserve our easy ISK.. CCP now ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahah.... AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... hahahahahahahaha... haha... heh.. lol If I could sing I would so record your lyrics to the music, that was a funny as hell read... maybe I can convince the wife to sing it... hmm In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't.
Zero Sum Gain FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem 61	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:19:00 - [18] - Quote Quote: 30% loss in refining yield OVERNIGHT! My god, the night did that?! Damn you solar cycles!
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Unleashed Pestilence 882	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:26:00 - [19] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Wrecking Blow Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything Produced by Unsuccessful ProductionsGäó Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus We'll whine, we'll cry our hearts out guys, Crius launched, now we question why, We failed to read the Dev Blogs threads, A whine, heard throughout all time. Why don't CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry and ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now ruined my game... Yeah, you, you ruined my game. Now PLEX is so high, I question why CCP, why don't you control the price? Ill gnash my teeth, cry myself to sleep, Highsec, it used to be so nice. Why wont CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry now ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. My entitlement now overflows.. Yeah, we deserved better than this.. Im left now with 10 accounts.. Im unsubbing now forthwith.. Yeah, CCP wrecked my game. I never meant to cry so much I just ooze entitlement.. And instead of using words.. I guess I should unsub to win.. I never meant to cry so much I just wanted easy ISK.. Why cant you just let highsec win? Don't you ever say I wont walk away.. Ill unsub and show you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. We deserve our easy ISK.. CCP now ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game. You're in fine form today. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á
Aziesta Serenity Labs 460	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:28:00 - [20] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Wrecking Blow Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything Produced by Unsuccessful ProductionsGäó Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus Someone batphone Sindel Pellion.
Kaaeliaa Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin 5473	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:30:00 - [21] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Wrecking Blow Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything Produced by Unsuccessful ProductionsGäó Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus We'll whine, we'll cry our hearts out guys, Crius launched, now we question why, We failed to read the Dev Blogs threads, A whine, heard throughout all time. Why don't CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry and ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now ruined my game... Yeah, you, you ruined my game. Now PLEX is so high, I question why CCP, why don't you control the price? Ill gnash my teeth, cry myself to sleep, Highsec, it used to be so nice. Why wont CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry now ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. My entitlement now overflows.. Yeah, we deserved better than this.. Im left now with 10 accounts.. Im unsubbing now forthwith.. Yeah, CCP wrecked my game. I never meant to cry so much I just ooze entitlement.. And instead of using words.. I guess I should unsub to win.. I never meant to cry so much I just wanted easy ISK.. Why cant you just let highsec win? Don't you ever say I wont walk away.. Ill unsub and show you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. We deserve our easy ISK.. CCP now ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game. Masterpiece. Puts my limerick spree in OOPE to shame. 11/10 One of EVE's Most Beautiful People. Princess of Sibyyl's Pillow Fort. Proponent of Dusette Voltron Theory (tm). Adopted Dusette. FAQ time with Kaaeliaa Q: What is the meaning of life, Kaaeliaa? A: Yes.
TigerXtrm Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 818	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:33:00 - [22] - Quote Op is so ret*rded he didn't notice he actually got more after the patch than he would have gotten before it. He just sees a percentage and rages on the forum. If anything will kill EVE, it's guys like this. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things!
Velicitia Arma Artificer 2420	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:36:00 - [23] - Quote Aziesta wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Wrecking Blow Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything Produced by Unsuccessful ProductionsGäó Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus Someone batphone Sindel Pellion. ^ Indeed One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Duster Dustovich Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:41:00 - [24] - Quote [quote=GreenSeed]"All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes" Is this true for salvaging as well? My take was that salvaging would not be increased, but would be nerfed. New players would take a 50% reduction in reprocessing rate so reprocessing any mission salvage for minerals would be greatly reduced. Also using reprocessed salvage minerals for manufacturing LP store blueprints the costs to do so would consequently be increased. Have they also applied the mining increase to salvage?
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1435	Posted - 2014.07.23 00:16:00 - [25] - Quote Salvaging is not nerfed. Loot reprocessing is 'nerfed' in that it gets less minerals. However...... Invention changes are coming that may give the looted modules value in their own right as modules rather than worthless. Also Module Tiericide is confirmed to be on CCP's long term plan as well.
Naburi NasNaburi A Little Peculiar borealis 225	Posted - 2014.07.23 15:29:00 - [26] - Quote well done.. at least I was singing along here lol
Solecist Project Mew Age Outpaws 3580	Posted - 2014.07.23 15:33:00 - [27] - Quote Naburi NasNaburi wrote: well done.. at least I was singing along here lol Hey Nase! :D http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Sniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively.
Vol Arm'OOO Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 265	Posted - 2014.07.23 15:47:00 - [28] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: Despite Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! ::: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve! http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif Oh and have a great day The times they are a changing I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Eternus8lux8lucis Journies End 242	Posted - 2014.07.23 15:50:00 - [29] - Quote Yeah after I realized that 70% on the chart is in fact the 72.4% prophesied in the devblogs I was okay with it, for a second.... and then I just lamented all the lost extra minerals and isotopes I could be selling and got entitlement disorder for a while..... then I just reproed it for what it was before and sold it in jita and said meh theres my plexs bought for a while again and carried on. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak. http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
KaarBaak 306	Posted - 2014.07.23 17:11:00 - [30] - Quote Duster Dustovich wrote: [quote=GreenSeed]"All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes" Is this true for salvaging as well? My take was that salvaging would not be increased, but would be nerfed. New players would take a 50% reduction in reprocessing rate so reprocessing any mission salvage for minerals would be greatly reduced. Consequently using using reprocessed salvage minerals for manufacturing LP store blueprints means the costs will be increased. Have they also applied the mining increase to salvage? You are correct. Welcome to two months ago. KB
Ocih Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 655	Posted - 2014.07.23 17:28:00 - [31] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: Salvaging is not nerfed. Loot reprocessing is 'nerfed' in that it gets less minerals. However...... Invention changes are coming that may give the looted modules value in their own right as modules rather than worthless. Also Module Tiericide is confirmed to be on CCP's long term plan as well. This is kind of where it's at now. Anything with a meta version can be made to T2 with 100% results in the Invention tree. If your skills are even at 4 you won't need Meta 4 to get it done, add a meta 3 to the invention, it will be enough, Hulls, rigs, anything that has no Meta tree versions are where it gets really hard to T2 stuff. If the Hull has a T2 BPO you don't even try. You can't compete. As for the OP and his rant, it's misinformed. Nothing more to be said.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 775	Posted - 2014.07.23 18:32:00 - [32] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Wrecking Blow ... +1 for UAE . Remove insurance.
Pheusia Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 118	Posted - 2014.07.23 18:36:00 - [33] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: Despite Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! ::: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve! http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif Oh and have a great day You didn't read the devblog did you? never mind, here's a cookie for being adorable
Exxter Evox Tri-Star Enterprise 1	Posted - 2014.07.23 19:08:00 - [34] - Quote I just tested the 70% and its not equal to the 72.4% which was mentioned pre release to compensate for looses. It actually is 70% of the 72.4% thus everyone refining with perfect skills from today onwards in high sec is loosing out on 2.4% minerals or 2.4% ice products. Error CCP or intended would be nice to have it clarified. Oh and I am not moved to move into low sec just for refining CCP since you havent taken into account the human factor.
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 12488	Posted - 2014.07.23 19:17:00 - [35] - Quote Exxter Evox wrote: I just tested the 70% and its not equal to the 72.4% which was mentioned pre release to compensate for looses. It actually is 70% of the 72.4% thus everyone refining with perfect skills from today onwards in high sec is loosing out on 2.4% minerals or 2.4% ice products. Error CCP or intended would be nice to have it clarified. Oh and I am not moved to move into low sec just for refining CCP since you havent taken into account the human factor. You need them implants and standings. Just as planned. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 3953	Posted - 2014.07.23 19:22:00 - [36] - Quote Exxter Evox wrote: I just tested the 70% and its not equal to the 72.4% which was mentioned pre release to compensate for looses. It actually is 70% of the 72.4% thus everyone refining with perfect skills from today onwards in high sec is loosing out on 2.4% minerals or 2.4% ice products. Error CCP or intended would be nice to have it clarified. Oh and I am not moved to move into low sec just for refining CCP since you havent taken into account the human factor. That's the right figure when you don't have a 4% refining implant. Links to my math: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4770202#post4770202 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4780736#post4780736
Gedrick frogue Heuristic Industrial And Development 1	Posted - 2014.07.23 19:42:00 - [37] - Quote GreenSeed wrote: "All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes" first friggin line on the patchnotes... Go do your sums, high sec miners are being screwed over
Titania Hrothgar Nemesis Retribution No Excuse. 90	Posted - 2014.07.23 19:54:00 - [38] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: Despite Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! ::: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve! http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif Oh and have a great day Seriously? You think it takes winning the lottery to afford $15 a month? I blow more than that in a week eating out and I'm no millionaire. I know people who spend more than that a month on 2 packs of cigarettes that last them a day. Who can't afford $15 a month? All the world's a stage and all the men and women are the players.
Gorinia Sanford Big n Large 70	Posted - 2014.07.23 19:59:00 - [39] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: Despite Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! ::: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve! http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif Oh and have a great day I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume you didn't read the patch notes prior to the patch release.
Gorinia Sanford Big n Large 70	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:02:00 - [40] - Quote Zero Sum Gain wrote: Quote: 30% loss in refining yield OVERNIGHT! My god, the night did that?! Damn you solar cycles! I blame sunspots.
Gorinia Sanford Big n Large 70	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:19:00 - [41] - Quote Gedrick frogue wrote: GreenSeed wrote: "All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes" first friggin line on the patchnotes... Go do your sums, high sec miners are being screwed over Good thing we're moving to null in six days.
Arec Bardwin 1471	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:46:00 - [42] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Wrecking Blow Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything Produced by Unsuccessful ProductionsGäó Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus We'll whine, we'll cry our hearts out guys, Crius launched, now we question why, We failed to read the Dev Blogs threads, A whine, heard throughout all time. Why don't CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry and ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now ruined my game... Yeah, you, you ruined my game. Now PLEX is so high, I question why CCP, why don't you control the price? Ill gnash my teeth, cry myself to sleep, Highsec, it used to be so nice. Why wont CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry now ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. My entitlement now overflows.. Yeah, we deserved better than this.. Im left now with 10 accounts.. Im unsubbing now forthwith.. Yeah, CCP wrecked my game. I never meant to cry so much I just ooze entitlement.. And instead of using words.. I guess I should unsub to win.. I never meant to cry so much I just wanted easy ISK.. Why cant you just let highsec win? Don't you ever say I wont walk away.. Ill unsub and show you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. We deserve our easy ISK.. CCP now ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game. Well done, sir!
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 12488	Posted - 2014.07.24 00:03:00 - [43] - Quote Gedrick frogue wrote: GreenSeed wrote: "All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes" first friggin line on the patchnotes... Go do your sums, high sec miners are being screwed over No they arn't, they simply dont get the best reward for their work. Just as planned. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Gallowmere Rorschach Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 505	Posted - 2014.07.24 00:57:00 - [44] - Quote Gorinia Sanford wrote: Gedrick frogue wrote: GreenSeed wrote: "All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes" first friggin line on the patchnotes... Go do your sums, high sec miners are being screwed over Good thing we're moving to null in six days. That's what I like to hear. Follow the money dammit.
Ironbuket Violet Impulse 0	Posted - 2014.07.24 06:30:00 - [45] - Quote What was this talk about the yields being increased to balance out the increased loss from refining? I didn't have max skills in everything, but I had enough to refine ore with 0% loss in a station. A like for like comparison of X amount of ore being refined before and after the patch in the same station with the same skills results in about a 20% drop in mineral yield for me I'm not talking about the % loss I'm talking about an actual drop in the number of minerals returned after refining I'm also noticing weird changes in the mineral yields of the different qualities of ore. Low and middle grade ores are closer in yield than before?
Barton Breau University of Caille Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2014.07.24 07:26:00 - [46] - Quote Ironbuket wrote: What was this talk about the yields being increased to balance out the increased loss from refining? I didn't have max skills in everything, but I had enough to refine ore with 0% loss in a station. A like for like comparison of X amount of ore being refined before and after the patch in the same station with the same skills results in about a 20% drop in mineral yield for me I'm not talking about the % loss I'm talking about an actual drop in the number of minerals returned after refining I'm also noticing weird changes in the mineral yields of the different qualities of ore. Low and middle grade ores are closer in yield than before? Yes, it was decided, that you can have the equivalent of 100% before patch only with perfect skills AND the implant. (maybe we should reduce armor of all ships by 33% because of the slave set) And someone in a outpost gets ~120% :)
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 4177	Posted - 2014.07.24 07:44:00 - [47] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Wrecking Blow Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything Produced by Unsuccessful ProductionsGäó Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus If this doesn't turn into an UAT appreciation thread, I will be very disappointed. p.s petition CCP to have a 'Like X 10' button please.
Gedrick frogue Heuristic Industrial And Development 1	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:08:00 - [48] - Quote yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts on this so called industry upgrade
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 6412	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:13:00 - [49] - Quote Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts How?! HOW Explain your loss Please And use maths "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
Gedrick frogue Heuristic Industrial And Development 1	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:18:00 - [50] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts How?! HOW Explain your loss Please And use maths Work it out for yourself or read some of the posts others have put up
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 23297	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:50:00 - [51] - Quote Gedrick frogue wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts How?! HOW Explain your loss Please And use maths Work it out for yourself or read some of the posts others have put up Translation: GÇ£oh crap, someone asked me to prove my statements and I can't! Evade! Evade! Evade!GÇ¥ So what you said was pure nonsense then. Goodie. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 6421	Posted - 2014.07.24 16:50:00 - [52] - Quote Gedrick frogue wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts How?! HOW Explain your loss Please And use maths Work it out for yourself or read some of the posts others have put up Im not the one with the loss Ive made net gains in fact So unless you can actually tell me in what way you have lost, I call BS on your statement, thanks "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
Rhes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 996	Posted - 2014.07.24 18:57:00 - [53] - Quote Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts on this so called industry upgrade If so then it's great news! EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Chequematte D'Courcey Privateer Corporation '64 4	Posted - 2014.07.24 21:12:00 - [54] - Quote I keep seeing post of how Hi-sec miners have been screwed with this patch. I find for my self a hi-sec miner for 11 months this patch to be great. I moved my reprossesing operation and manufacturing to my own station and my returns are at a all time high . I was afraid my small manufacturing business was in jeperdy but I have found I will thrive and make a mint in Hi-sec with this new set up . My advise get your own station and make your loot if you rely on the NCP stations to make ya loot good luck to you gonna be tough. build 1 caldari shuttle at NCP station 748 isk at my own station 212 ISK and I am grinding all my ore at 100% at my station to boot getting more minerals per load. I don't make many posts but figured I would weigh in here .
Peter Raptor Galactic Hawks 679	Posted - 2014.07.24 21:36:00 - [55] - Quote Chequematte D'Courcey wrote: I keep seeing post of how Hi-sec miners have been screwed with this patch. I find for my self a hi-sec miner for 11 months this patch to be great. I moved my reprossesing operation and manufacturing to my own station and my returns are at a all time high . I was afraid my small manufacturing business was in jeperdy but I have found I will thrive and make a mint in Hi-sec with this new set up . My advise get your own station and make your loot if you rely on the NCP stations to make ya loot good luck to you gonna be tough. build 1 caldari shuttle at NCP station 748 isk at my own station 212 ISK and I am grinding all my ore at 100% at my station to boot getting more minerals per load. I don't make many posts but figured I would weigh in here . Your station?? You mean you have your own POS or outpost?? Ive read that the only way to actually now get refining at 90% in Eve is to have a dedicated refining outpost. A small refining array in a POS gives 4% bonus, a Large one gives only 8%, so how you getting 100%??? Evelopedia;-á The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á
Chequematte D'Courcey Privateer Corporation '64 4	Posted - 2014.07.24 21:39:00 - [56] - Quote Yes I have my own POS thats what I have been saving for since I started this game 11 months agao. Ok so maybe it aint 100% but a hell of a lot better than I ever had . I will restate Get your own POS its the best way if your like me small time miner/manufacturer.
Peter Raptor Galactic Hawks 679	Posted - 2014.07.24 21:46:00 - [57] - Quote Chequematte D'Courcey wrote: Yes I have my own POS thats what I have been saving for since I started this game 11 months agao. Ok so maybe it aint 100% but a hell of a lot better than I ever had . I will restate Get your own POS its the best way if your like me small time miner/manufacturer. 4% bonus, isnt bad, but you lose a lot in fueling don't you? Unless you have large array in losec, thats still only 8%, and with the fuel costs being quite high, don't think its worth it to be honest :/ Evelopedia;-á The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 23305	Posted - 2014.07.24 21:57:00 - [58] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: Your station?? You mean you have your own POS or outpost?? Ive read that the only way to actually now get refining at 90% in Eve is to have a dedicated refining outpost. A small refining array in a POS gives 4% bonus, a Large one gives only 8%, so how you getting 100%??? 0.52 (facility efficiency) +ù 1.15 (refining) +ù 1.1 (refining efficiency) +ù 1.1 (ore processing) +ù 1.381 (mineral compensation factor) = 0.999263 Close enough to not make any appreciable difference. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
Peter Raptor Galactic Hawks 679	Posted - 2014.07.24 22:14:00 - [59] - Quote Tippia wrote: Peter Raptor wrote: Your station?? You mean you have your own POS or outpost?? Ive read that the only way to actually now get refining at 90% in Eve is to have a dedicated refining outpost. A small refining array in a POS gives 4% bonus, a Large one gives only 8%, so how you getting 100%??? 0.52 (facility efficiency) +ù 1.15 (refining) +ù 1.1 (refining efficiency) +ù 1.1 (ore processing) +ù 1.381 (mineral compensation factor) = 0.999263 Close enough to not make any appreciable difference. Is that for a refining outpost or pos? If for pos, does that mean a refining outpost gives 120% yield??? (Maths is not my strong point ) Evelopedia;-á The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á
Rowells Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans 1058	Posted - 2014.07.24 22:27:00 - [60] - Quote Gedrick frogue wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts How?! HOW Explain your loss Please And use maths Work it out for yourself or read some of the posts others have put up "Doing the exact same thing as I did before"
Belt Scout Thread Lockaholics Anonymous 566	Posted - 2014.07.24 22:36:00 - [61] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Wrecking Blow Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything Produced by Unsuccessful ProductionsGäó Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus We'll whine, we'll cry our hearts out guys, Crius launched, now we question why, We failed to read the Dev Blogs threads, A whine, heard throughout all time. Why don't CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry and ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now ruined my game... Yeah, you, you ruined my game. Now PLEX is so high, I question why CCP, why don't you control the price? Ill gnash my teeth, cry myself to sleep, Highsec, it used to be so nice. Why wont CCP, SP refund me, They should always have to.. Highsec was my life, im angry now ill tell you why.. I will always blame you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. My entitlement now overflows.. Yeah, we deserved better than this.. Im left now with 10 accounts.. Im unsubbing now forthwith.. Yeah, CCP wrecked my game. I never meant to cry so much I just ooze entitlement.. And instead of using words.. I guess I should unsub to win.. I never meant to cry so much I just wanted easy ISK.. Why cant you just let highsec win? Don't you ever say I wont walk away.. Ill unsub and show you.. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. nerfing industry was really low.. All I wanted was some easy ISK.. Now you've ruined my game. Crius hit us like a wrecking blow.. Nerfing industry was really low.. We deserve our easy ISK.. CCP now ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game.. Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game. LOL Nice. Here, have some likes. . They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 187	Posted - 2014.07.24 23:15:00 - [62] - Quote Well... I don't mine or manufacture... So I don't care.... I don't...
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1443	Posted - 2014.07.25 03:10:00 - [63] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: Is that for a refining outpost or pos? If for pos, does that mean a refining outpost gives 120% yield??? (Maths is not my strong point ) That's a high sec pos with no implant relative to pre crius yields. And yes, a Null Mini outpost can return 120% yields compared to pre crius. Or close enough to.
Ironbuket Violet Impulse 0	Posted - 2014.07.25 03:24:00 - [64] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts ...unless you can actually tell me in what way you have lost, I call BS on your statement, thanks How about this example from my own records Before patch: 50% NPC station, skill sufficient to give 0% loss 333 units of Pyroxeres refined yields Mexallon 120 Nocxium 11 Pyerite 59 Tritanium 844 Same station and same skills after patch: 333 units of Pyroxeres refined yields Mexallon 99 Nocxium 10 Pyerite 49 Tritanium 693 I support the idea of giving higher refine returns with extra effort, but this is clearly a nerf. When people claimed nerf leading up to the patch, IGÇÖm sure people were defending the changes saying that the extra refine loss would be offset by higher yields? At least in my case this is not true. I now have to train skills and buy a pos just to get back to the point I was already at a few days back, if that isnGÇÖt a nerf (and yes a GÇÿkick in the nutsGÇÖ) I donGÇÖt know what is.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6281	Posted - 2014.07.25 03:40:00 - [65] - Quote I see now that some people are benefiting from their investments in ore processing V and 4% implants, unlike earlier (lol "skill sufficient to give 0% loss") Op success ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears. Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1443	Posted - 2014.07.25 03:40:00 - [66] - Quote If you do not have the skills for a particular ore maxed then & do not have the refining implant, then yes, it is a nerf. That is working as intended, it is meant to be a nerf for anyone with less than max skills.
Brylan Grey Scope Works 53	Posted - 2014.07.25 04:43:00 - [67] - Quote I don't like it. But I think it is reasonable. My alt had 100% refine with some skills only at 3, and no implants. So there was no need to up skills further. Now that the refine yield is lower, means more skill investment will yield better returns. This makes perfect sense to me. Overall, I think it will benefit the game overall, and really help out the people that are really dedicated to mining, giving them larger profits than before, while the casual miners like my alt, will find they either need to step up the skulking, or move on to other isk earning careers. I had two chars that would mine while I work. But due to this change I might abandon mining. Is that bad? Not at all. Less competition for the dedicated miners. Their profitability will go up much more and I will simply find other activities more suited for my skills for isk earning.
Peter Raptor Galactic Hawks 679	Posted - 2014.07.25 04:45:00 - [68] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: Peter Raptor wrote: Is that for a refining outpost or pos? If for pos, does that mean a refining outpost gives 120% yield??? (Maths is not my strong point ) That's a high sec pos with no implant relative to pre crius yields. And yes, a Null Mini outpost can return 120% yields compared to pre crius. Or close enough to. Ok, well I was talking about post crius, and thos calculations make it look like you can get 100% yield POST crius, which is impossible, I already have the same yield as pre crius with all skills maxed, post crius max yield is what Im interested in, and so those calculations are somewhat misleading... Evelopedia;-á The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4180	Posted - 2014.07.25 07:20:00 - [69] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: Despite Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! ::: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve! http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif Oh and have a great day Op clearly did not read dev blogs or patchnotes. Sorry, but that just mean you are stupid for not reading up what CCP is going to change, your own damn fault. Bye. Personal channel: *Crazy Dutch Guy* Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 12491	Posted - 2014.07.25 09:00:00 - [70] - Quote Ironbuket wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts ...unless you can actually tell me in what way you have lost, I call BS on your statement, thanks How about this example from my own records Before patch: 50% NPC station, skill sufficient to give 0% loss 333 units of Pyroxeres refined yields Mexallon 120 Nocxium 11 Pyerite 59 Tritanium 844 Same station and same skills after patch: 333 units of Pyroxeres refined yields Mexallon 99 Nocxium 10 Pyerite 49 Tritanium 693 I support the idea of giving higher refine returns with extra effort, but this is clearly a nerf. When people claimed nerf leading up to the patch, IGÇÖm sure people were defending the changes saying that the extra refine loss would be offset by higher yields? At least in my case this is not true. I now have to train skills and buy a pos just to get back to the point I was already at a few days back, if that isnGÇÖt a nerf (and yes a GÇÿkick in the nutsGÇÖ) I donGÇÖt know what is. Just as planned Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 6442	Posted - 2014.07.25 09:11:00 - [71] - Quote Ironbuket wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts ...unless you can actually tell me in what way you have lost, I call BS on your statement, thanks How about this example from my own records Before patch: 50% NPC station, skill sufficient to give 0% loss 333 units of Pyroxeres refined yields Mexallon 120 Nocxium 11 Pyerite 59 Tritanium 844 Same station and same skills after patch: 333 units of Pyroxeres refined yields Mexallon 99 Nocxium 10 Pyerite 49 Tritanium 693 I support the idea of giving higher refine returns with extra effort, but this is clearly a nerf. When people claimed nerf leading up to the patch, IGÇÖm sure people were defending the changes saying that the extra refine loss would be offset by higher yields? At least in my case this is not true. I now have to train skills and buy a pos just to get back to the point I was already at a few days back, if that isnGÇÖt a nerf (and yes a GÇÿkick in the nutsGÇÖ) I donGÇÖt know what is. Thats interesting... Given you cannot refine exactly 333 units of anything, I doubt the accuracy of your data Also you used the word "station", so there is a flaw in your method from the start "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
Velicitia Arma Artificer 2425	Posted - 2014.07.25 09:43:00 - [72] - Quote Ironbuket wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Gedrick frogue wrote: yup high sec miners get kicked in the nuts ...unless you can actually tell me in what way you have lost, I call BS on your statement, thanks How about this example from my own records Before patch: 50% NPC station, skill sufficient to give 0% loss 333 units of Pyroxeres refined yields Mexallon 120 Nocxium 11 Pyerite 59 Tritanium 844 Same station and same skills after patch: 333 units of Pyroxeres refined yields Mexallon 99 Nocxium 10 Pyerite 49 Tritanium 693 I support the idea of giving higher refine returns with extra effort, but this is clearly a nerf. When people claimed nerf leading up to the patch, IGÇÖm sure people were defending the changes saying that the extra refine loss would be offset by higher yields? At least in my case this is not true. I now have to train skills and buy a pos just to get back to the point I was already at a few days back, if that isnGÇÖt a nerf (and yes a GÇÿkick in the nutsGÇÖ) I donGÇÖt know what is. Thing is, CCP has stated outright that in order to get "100%" pre-crius refine now, you need max skills (5/5/5 Refining / Refinery Efficiency / Ore-Specific Processing) as well as the 4% Refining implant. NOTE -- when you have this, the window will say "72.4% yield". This is also intended, as it allowed CCP to re-work the POS and Outpost refineries, in order to make them better than NPC stations. Here are the "perfect NPC station" numbers for Pyrox, assuming 3.33 refines (which you can't actually get, because batch size): Tritanium -- 846 Pyerite -- 60 Mexallon -- 120 Nox -- 12 3.00 refines yields the following (with 33 Pyrox left over): Tritanium -- 762 Pyerite -- 54 Mexallon -- 108 Nox -- 10 NOTE -- maths were done quickly, so I might be off by 1 or 2 in either direction. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 23308	Posted - 2014.07.25 09:48:00 - [73] - Quote Ironbuket wrote: Same station and same skills after patch: 333 units of Pyroxeres refined yields Mexallon 99 Nocxium 10 Pyerite 49 Tritanium 693 GÇªso when we factor in the ore that you fail to refine and the poor choice of location, what you're actually getting is: Mexallon: 112 Nocxium: 11 Pyerite: 55 Tritanium: 784 There are plenty of skills left to make up for the 12% loss you're incurring. Train those. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6281	Posted - 2014.07.25 09:48:00 - [74] - Quote If I remember right, with only Refinery Efficiency V and a 2% implant, you could max out a 50% base NPC station before. No need for any processing skills... Wonder how many in highsec actually got X Processing Vs and a 4% implant (my nullsec alt has it for ice, which I mine) ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears. Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
Peter Raptor Galactic Hawks 680	Posted - 2014.07.25 10:19:00 - [75] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: If I remember right, with only Refinery Efficiency V and a 2% implant, you could max out a 50% base NPC station before. No need for any processing skills... Wonder how many in highsec actually got X Processing Vs and a 4% implant (my nullsec alt has it for ice, which I mine) I started to train those when the Indy changes were announced months ago. At this stage, post crius, its impossible to get ACTUAL 100% refining anywhere in the Eve Universe, so I find that a bit odd. Evelopedia;-á The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á
Eternus8lux8lucis Journies End 244	Posted - 2014.07.25 10:56:00 - [76] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: If I remember right, with only Refinery Efficiency V and a 2% implant, you could max out a 50% base NPC station before. No need for any processing skills... Wonder how many in highsec actually got X Processing Vs and a 4% implant (my nullsec alt has it for ice, which I mine) Yeah my alt got it all a while ago for all the high sec ores and ice. Now Ill just slowly work on the null sec ores as well. Most people had more than enough time in order to train them as well if they kept abreast of the changes and how it would work. But I have a few guys in null sec bemoaning the changes all day every day until they log off now so its not just stupid people in high sec that got nailed. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak. http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
Ironbuket Violet Impulse 0	Posted - 2014.07.26 04:43:00 - [77] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Given you cannot refine exactly 333 units of anything, I doubt the accuracy of your data You fail - LOL
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 12493	Posted - 2014.07.26 04:59:00 - [78] - Quote Ironbuket wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Given you cannot refine exactly 333 units of anything, I doubt the accuracy of your data You fail - LOL How so? What he said is right. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6282	Posted - 2014.07.26 06:07:00 - [79] - Quote Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: If I remember right, with only Refinery Efficiency V and a 2% implant, you could max out a 50% base NPC station before. No need for any processing skills... Wonder how many in highsec actually got X Processing Vs and a 4% implant (my nullsec alt has it for ice, which I mine) Yeah my alt got it all a while ago for all the high sec ores and ice. Now Ill just slowly work on the null sec ores as well. Most people had more than enough time in order to train them as well if they kept abreast of the changes and how it would work. But I have a few guys in null sec bemoaning the changes all day every day until they log off now so its not just stupid people in high sec that got nailed. Actually, don't people have alts with processing IVs, due to the T2 crystals. At least for ore they mine. Though I guess in highsec, you wouldn't need ABC skills, and wouldn't have Refinery Efficiency V as it isn't a pre-req for the lower ore processing skills. Did 4% implants get a lot more expensive as well... ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears. Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
Eternus8lux8lucis Journies End 247	Posted - 2014.07.26 07:01:00 - [80] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: If I remember right, with only Refinery Efficiency V and a 2% implant, you could max out a 50% base NPC station before. No need for any processing skills... Wonder how many in highsec actually got X Processing Vs and a 4% implant (my nullsec alt has it for ice, which I mine) Yeah my alt got it all a while ago for all the high sec ores and ice. Now Ill just slowly work on the null sec ores as well. Most people had more than enough time in order to train them as well if they kept abreast of the changes and how it would work. But I have a few guys in null sec bemoaning the changes all day every day until they log off now so its not just stupid people in high sec that got nailed. Actually, don't people have alts with processing IVs, due to the T2 crystals. At least for ore they mine. Though I guess in highsec, you wouldn't need ABC skills, and wouldn't have Refinery Efficiency V as it isn't a pre-req for the lower ore processing skills. Did 4% implants get a lot more expensive as well... Yes this toon has all the ore processing to L4 even the ABC and null ores as he used to run a rorqual boosting for mining there. So it wont be that bad to train him to L5, itll still take some time to do though. But in high the refiner I use for my mining crews had plenty of time to train all the high sec ores to L5 with room to spare due to them postponing it till Crius. Yes they did but some idiot keeps dumping implants and Im not making my profits!!! Greed is good right? Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak. http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace

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